The Official San Diego Padres Thread

[BatsareBugs]

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What blue chip prospect do the Pads have? Chase Headley? Matt Antoneli? Those are the only two I can think of that are even above average...I see solid starter from both of them, not star.

You're only thinking AAA and whatever minor league sites place on their top 100.

Kyle Blanks.
Cedric Hunter.
Matt Lattos.

Other prospects:
Chad Huffman
Andrew Cumberland
Eric Sogard
Kellen Kulbacki
Mitch Canham

Those are the prospects I think will actually make some noise in the big leagues.

We don't have a Justin Upton or a Evan Longoria, but I think you're writing the farm system off and not giving it a chance. What you see is the result of the poor drafts the two years before Alderson/Fuson/co. were hired to take charge of KT's failing project. Starting this year, we'll actually get to see these guys they drafted, given that KT stops being a ***** and stops with the excuses that "April was too early" and "We're not doing well right now and we dont' want to pressure the kids".

[franch1se]

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dont forget Will Venable

[bkrich83]

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I disagree with not only the farm system being a joke, but dark years.

I expect us to be terrible this season... hell, the writing was on the wall seasons ago. Next season we won't make any noise, but I expect in 2010 something out of this Alderson-run farm system.

Dude he's right. The farm system is pretty bare. Not to mention this is a franchise with a history of not being able to develop players internally.

You can point to all the lower level guys you want, the odds of even 1/3 of those guys contributing at the major league level is between slim and none.

Dark days indeed are ahead, hell they are already here, but they will continue for some time.

As I have said for the last couple of years, this team is simply not committed to winning.

[bkrich83]

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You're only thinking AAA and whatever minor league sites place on their top 100.

Kyle Blanks.
Cedric Hunter.
Matt Lattos.

Other prospects:
Chad Huffman
Andrew Cumberland
Eric Sogard
Kellen Kulbacki
Mitch Canham

Those are the prospects I think will actually make some noise in the big leagues.

We don't have a Justin Upton or a Evan Longoria, but I think you're writing the farm system off and not giving it a chance. What you see is the result of the poor drafts the two years before Alderson/Fuson/co. were hired to take charge of KT's failing project. Starting this year, we'll actually get to see these guys they drafted, given that KT stops being a ***** and stops with the excuses that "April was too early" and "We're not doing well right now and we dont' want to pressure the kids".

Come on, let's be realistic. Also factor in the Padres ability to develop players. Maybe if we're lucky 1 or 2 of those guys ever contributes to the Padres at the major league level?.

[BatsareBugs]

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Come on, let's be realistic. Also factor in the Padres ability to develop players. Maybe if we're lucky 1 or 2 of those guys ever contributes to the Padres at the major league level?.

True, but I'm already being realistic. Will Venable? He'll end up becoming another Jon Knott... too old by the time he's worth something. Will Inman? Pick your poison, could be a pre-injury Joel Piniero or another Tim Redding. Cesar Carrillo? Hasn't stayed healthy. Wade LeBlanc? Someone remind me how a changeup artist like DeWon Brazelton fared in the big leagues.

The only reason why these guys don't contribute is because the front office would rather have AAAA-studs play instead of the prospects. I can't disagree that this team has been terrible developing players and just for their sake I'm hoping they do because having a stable farm system that consistently develops players.

Simply put, I'm frustrated at this team, but I don't think this farm system is as "bear" as you guys make it out to be. Sure, I understand not everyone develops, because I've noted guys in previous years that I never bought the hype in (Bozied, Tankersley, Bynum, etc.).

[bkrich83]

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True, but I'm already being realistic. Will Venable? He'll end up becoming another Jon Knott... too old by the time he's worth something. Will Inman? Pick your poison, could be a pre-injury Joel Piniero or another Tim Redding. Cesar Carrillo? Hasn't stayed healthy. Wade LeBlanc? Someone remind me how a changeup artist like DeWon Brazelton fared in the big leagues.

The only reason why these guys don't contribute is because the front office would rather have AAAA-studs play instead of the prospects. I can't disagree that this team has been terrible developing players and just for their sake I'm hoping they do because having a stable farm system that consistently develops players.

Simply put, I'm frustrated at this team, but I don't think this farm system is as "bear" as you guys make it out to be. Sure, I understand not everyone develops, because I've noted guys in previous years that I never bought the hype in (Bozied, Tankersley, Bynum, etc.).

I just don't know how you can think the system isn't bare. This team is in real need of a reboot.

They're at least 3 or 4 years from being competetive again. That's a best case estimate.

[BatsareBugs]

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I just don't know how you can think the system isn't bare. This team is in real need of a reboot.

They're at least 3 or 4 years from being competetive again. That's a best case estimate.

That's your case estimate, I'm willing to go out on the limb that it'll be a 2 year process for this team's farm system to start contributing and for things to be on the up-and-up. Next year is a stretch.

The real reboot that needs to be done is with this major league club, the minor leagues, while not exactly flooding with number 1 star potential prospects, isn't in such a bad shape as you make it out to be. No one is getting hyped up and this system isn't as overrated as when it was earlier this decade.

It amazes me how this team was able to get away with barely any returns from the minor leagues the past couple of seasons.

[chilli311]

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On a positive note, congratulations to Maddux for win #350, and to the Padres for winning consecutive games, and actually winning a series.

[ChrisPaul_3]

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I can't believe the Padres are 15-25.

Thier highest hitter for average is Adrian Gonzalez and that is only at .296.

He has to play better than that. He's hitting for power with 9 homeruns but only 26 RBI's which is a team high as well.

San Diego needs to hit.

[BatsareBugs]

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Slow down on the posting buddy .

.296 isn't bad, it's outside of Giles, Iguchi, and Kouzmanoff, everyone is batting .220 or worse.

Adrian doesn't have to play better, the team around him has to step it up.

[ChrisPaul_3]

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Most teams have atleast one .300 hitter.

[BatsareBugs]

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Most teams have atleast one .300 hitter.

Well, don't knock Adrian Gonzalez because he's a .290-.300 hitter at best. Like I said, he's not the problem, the rest of the team needs to pick up the slack. What difference would make if Adrian was batting .300 when the rest of the team can't even hit over the Mendoza line?

[Kelverin]

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Well, don't knock Adrian Gonzalez because he's a .290-.300 hitter at best. Like I said, he's not the problem, the rest of the team needs to pick up the slack. What difference would make if Adrian was batting .300 when the rest of the team can't even hit over the Mendoza line?

Why even to pitch to him? the rest of the team can't hit when it matters. If I played against the pAAAdres he would never see a strike.

[av7]

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Doesnt seem like Mark Pryor can get away from injuries.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3400318

[BatsareBugs]

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Doesnt seem like Mark Pryor can get away from injuries.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3400318

At least we have an ace going for us on the DL spot.

We have bigger problems than Mark Prior. With that said, I don't think anyone is surprised that he is still injured.