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  • PhantomPain
    MVP
    • Jan 2003
    • 3512

    #511
    Re: 2010 Recruiting Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by VTPack919
    Gotta love Calipari.
    Good grief, what did Calipari do that was wrong? He recruited the kid. The kid made a rash decision and called Cal to let him know of such, and he ends up committing to UK afterwards. So please tell me what Cal did that was so wrong?
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    • wildcatchild
      MVP
      • Jan 2003
      • 2129

      #512
      Re: 2010 Recruiting Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by PhantomPain
      Good grief, what did Calipari do that was wrong? He recruited the kid. The kid made a rash decision and called Cal to let him know of such, and he ends up committing to UK afterwards. So please tell me what Cal did that was so wrong?

      Calipari did nothing wrong, nor has he ever been guilty of doing anything wrong. The media and ignorant opposing fans like to twist two non-related incidents involving Marcus Camby and Derrick Rose FIFTEEN YEARS APART and blame Cal for forcing Camby to take money from a street agent and for clearing Rose to play. "Two Final Fours, Two Final Fours!!" That's what sticks in everyone's mind. Not the facts.....Calipari wasn't named in either report yet that fact is often swept under the rug or ignored completely. Why? Because the guy wins and recruits like no other. And now he's coaching Kentucky. It's inevitable people are going to take shots at him (such as in this case) especially when the truth is often neglected. And you know what? I'm loving every second of it. God help America if he wins a national title. I'm sure Pat Forde's head will explode!

      I'm still waiting for Outside the Lines to run a report on why the NCAA cleared Rose to play, backtracked, and then penalized the school for their mistake. Of course, Darrell Arthur of Kansas gets into school with a bogus high school English score and nobody makes mention of this. By the NCAA's logic, Kansas should be stripped of their title, right? But whoops, Rose misses some free throws in the national title game, Chalmers hits a miracle shot, Kansas wins, and their title stands while we all have to pretend that Memphis never played in the game. GUARANTEE if Memphis would have held onto that game Kansas would of been forced to give up their runner-up trophy (always less controversey to penalize the losers than take away a championship). But alas, the NCAA plays by the Golden Rule....those with the gold make the rules!

      Speaking of Terrence Jones, how is this case any different than Kelvin Sampson getting Eric Gordon to change his committment from Illinois to Indiana? Or Michael Beasley changing his mind to attend Kansas State after he had committed to Charlotte? Why hasn't this been mentioned yet in this thread?
      Last edited by wildcatchild; 05-20-2010, 08:35 PM.
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      • JVal3208
        Rookie
        • Mar 2007
        • 465

        #513
        Re: 2010 Recruiting Discussion Thread

        No need to get so defensive, UK fans. Some people will always feel that Calipari is dirty and you knew that when he was hired.
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        • PhantomPain
          MVP
          • Jan 2003
          • 3512

          #514
          Re: 2010 Recruiting Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by JVal3208
          No need to get so defensive, UK fans. Some people will always feel that Calipari is dirty and you knew that when he was hired.
          Yes we did. But isn't it our right to defend our coach. I go by a rule. Very simple rule. Innocent until proven guilty. If Cal doesn't something illegal and puts UK on probation or costs us a season, then I am right there with every other non-UK fan.

          But you have to understand man, this is CONSTANT from people that NEVER look at the facts like wildcatchild said. You can call him whatever you want. You can say whatever you want about UK. But the FACT remains, Calipari has NEVER been found guilty of anything. In fact, Roy Williams has. Rick Pitino has. Many many other high profile coaches over the years have. Yet because Calipari is probably the best at what he does (recruiting) and gets kids that other schools want, opposing fans feel the need to yell "HE CHEATED" when there is ZERO proof.

          I have said this before and wildcatchild alluded to it above, but this happens because UK is back on top again. You didn't hear anything over the past 12 years about UK because we were quite frequently irrelevant. We heard it when Pitino was at UK, but not since. Now we are relevant again and opposing teams fans hate it. Its a fact.
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          • dunnyduns
            MVP
            • Feb 2003
            • 1408

            #515
            Re: 2010 Recruiting Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by wildcatchild
            Speaking of Terrence Jones, how is this case any different than Kelvin Sampson getting Eric Gordon to change his committment from Illinois to Indiana? Or Michael Beasley changing his mind to attend Kansas State after he had committed to Charlotte? Why hasn't this been mentioned yet in this thread?
            The biggest difference between Jones changing his commitment to UK and Eric Gordon changing his commitment to IU is when Gordon committed to Illinois the coach at Indiana was Mike Davis. Gordon was not a big fan of Mike Davis and when Sampson took the job then Gordon became interested in IU again. So, while both cases involved players changing their minds they aren't really similar cases at all which is probably why it hasn't been mentioned.

            That being said I have no problem with a kid having a change of heart. They only get to play college basketball once so, they need to make the best possible decision for them even if it means going back on a previous decision.

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            • fsquid
              Banned
              • Jul 2002
              • 17635

              #516
              Re: 2010 Recruiting Discussion Thread

              ? Or Michael Beasley changing his mind to attend Kansas State after he had committed to Charlotte? Why hasn't this been mentioned yet in this thread?
              Kansas State hired Delonte Hill who was Beasley's AAU coach.

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              • DakkoN
                All Star
                • Sep 2006
                • 5611

                #517
                Re: 2010 Recruiting Discussion Thread



                Really pathetic and sad. It's a shame that a 17 year old has to put up with that.
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                • JVal3208
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 465

                  #518
                  Re: 2010 Recruiting Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by DakkoN
                  http://twitter.com/CalipariCheats

                  Really pathetic and sad. It's a shame that a 17 year old has to put up with that.
                  SMH. It's sad how shameless people are nowadays.
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                  • ehh
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 28959

                    #519
                    Re: 2010 Recruiting Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by wildcatchild
                    Why? Because the guy wins like no other.
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                    • NYJets
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 18637

                      #520
                      Re: 2010 Recruiting Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by PhantomPain
                      I have said this before and wildcatchild alluded to it above, but this happens because UK is back on top again. You didn't hear anything over the past 12 years about UK because we were quite frequently irrelevant. We heard it when Pitino was at UK, but not since. Now we are relevant again and opposing teams fans hate it. Its a fact.

                      People have called Calipari a cheater when he was at UMass, and when he was at Memphis. Really has nothing to do with Kentucky.

                      BTW, I wasn't aware losing in the Elite 8 means you are back on top. I thought Kentucky had a little higher standards than that.
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                      • VTPack919
                        We Go Again
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 9708

                        #521
                        Re: 2010 Recruiting Discussion Thread

                        The comedy in this thread is top notch.

                        Innocent until proven guilty huh? I won't argue anything here as I can see how defensive the UK fans can be. It would be a disaster.

                        Congrats on the big pick up.
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                        • PhantomPain
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 3512

                          #522
                          Re: 2010 Recruiting Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by NYJets
                          People have called Calipari a cheater when he was at UMass, and when he was at Memphis. Really has nothing to do with Kentucky.

                          BTW, I wasn't aware losing in the Elite 8 means you are back on top. I thought Kentucky had a little higher standards than that.
                          No, just making the tournament is our standard

                          35 wins and the 2nd straight year with the number one recruiting class with a very good possibility for 3 straight years. Oh yeah, and Cal has been here what? 13 months?

                          Yeah, we're back on top.
                          #WeAreUK

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                          • PhantomPain
                            MVP
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 3512

                            #523
                            Re: 2010 Recruiting Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by VTPack919
                            The comedy in this thread is top notch.

                            Innocent until proven guilty huh? I won't argue anything here as I can see how defensive the UK fans can be. It would be a disaster.

                            Congrats on the big pick up.
                            Oh please share. PLEASE??? I would love to hear your tired and true arguments with no proof to back it up. Please, if you have proof, show it.
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                            • PhantomPain
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 3512

                              #524
                              Re: 2010 Recruiting Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by ehh
                              Would be interested to hear how what wildcatchild is wrong? I believe Calipari has the best record over a 4 years stretch than any other current Division 1 coach. Don't feel like looking it up but he has like 16 losses over the past 4 years combined. I guess I can see how that is so funny.:wink:
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                              • VTPack919
                                We Go Again
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 9708

                                #525
                                Re: 2010 Recruiting Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by PhantomPain
                                No, just making the tournament is our standard

                                35 wins and the 2nd straight year with the number one recruiting class with a very good possibility for 3 straight years. Oh yeah, and Cal has been here what? 13 months?

                                Yeah, we're back on top.
                                Of the recruiting rankings...
                                YNWA

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