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  • Marino
    Moderator
    • Jan 2008
    • 18113

    #256
    Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread

    Originally posted by Chrisksaint
    What a joke Trent Johnson needs to be fired, he said himself he decommitted from St. Johns to give LSU a good shot to get him.
    L$U, NC$U and Baylor were all in it, but Balyor ha$ $o many a$$et$ that many $tudent$ want to go and play there.

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    • wildcatchild
      MVP
      • Jan 2003
      • 2129

      #257
      Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread

      Originally posted by TheBrothers24
      Tokoto has to be thinking "I love the perks of being signed to North Carolina" to himself right about now. No way I think he makes this game if he was signed anywhere else.
      It's called the UNC/Duke Effect. Your chances of being selected for this game improve 98.1% no matter what your ranking is. Same for the McDonald's game. Also doesn't hurt that the guy who sponsors the game is a UNC alum.
      "He who controlleths the backboard, controlleths the game." - Adolph Rupp

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      • TheBrothers24
        SD/LA Chargers?
        • Sep 2007
        • 1915

        #258
        Originally posted by wildcatchild
        It's called the UNC/Duke Effect. Your chances of being selected for this game improve 98.1% no matter what your ranking is. Same for the McDonald's game. Also doesn't hurt that the guy who sponsors the game is a UNC alum.
        I know but just still found in funny. I don't know why Duke's chances would increase to play in a Jordan all star game though.
        "This is for all of my peoples who understand and truly recognize. Some won't get it and for that i won't apologize"- Talib Kweli

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        • bigeastbumrush
          My Momma's Son
          • Feb 2003
          • 19245

          #259
          Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread

          Nerlens Noel has scratched Providence and Florida off of his list.

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          • TheBrothers24
            SD/LA Chargers?
            • Sep 2007
            • 1915

            #260
            Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread

            Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
            Nerlens Noel has scratched Providence and Florida off of his list.
            Yes, UNC still has a small chance at him. Realistically I know he ends up at UK or Cuse though.
            "This is for all of my peoples who understand and truly recognize. Some won't get it and for that i won't apologize"- Talib Kweli

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            • bigeastbumrush
              My Momma's Son
              • Feb 2003
              • 19245

              #261
              Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread

              I hate the NCAA!!

              NCAA warns schools to be wary over top recruit Muhammad's eligibility

              The NCAA has contacted each school recruiting the nation's top-ranked high school basketball prospect, Shabazz Muhammad, and made them aware of financial dealings that could compromise Muhammad's amateur status, multiple sources have told CBSSports.com.

              The sources told CBSSports.com that the NCAA is specifically interested in connections between Muhammad's family and financial advisers Benjamin Lincoln and Ken Kavanagh. Lincoln is a North Carolina-based financial planner whose brother, Geoff Lincoln, is an assistant coach for Muhammad's high school team in Las Vegas. Kavanagh is a New York-based financial planner.

              Muhammad's father, Ron Holmes, acknowledged to CBSSports.com in multiple phone calls this week that he knows both men and has been questioned by an NCAA investigator about the relationships. Sources told CBSSports.com Lincoln paid for at least two of Muhammad's unofficial visits to college campuses and that Kavanagh has helped fund Muhammad's summer team, the Las Vegas-based Dream Vision Foundation. Holmes, who has hired legal counsel to assist with getting the NCAA inquiry resolved, confirmed both statements as true to CBSSports.com.
              Holmes said he has been in the real estate business since 1986 and met Benjamin Lincoln in 2007 through Muhammad's high school coach at Las Vegas' Bishop Gorman, Grant Rice.
              "We hit it off immediately and became very close friends," Holmes told CBSSports.com in an exclusive interview. "When Benjamin and I met in 2007, my son Shabazz was in the seventh grade. Back in 2007, none of us knew that Shabazz would be able to play college ball, let alone be as good as he is now. In fact, I don't remember any colleges contacting us until Shabazz was in the ninth or 10th grade.

              "By 2010, Shabazz was getting a lot of interest from high major colleges, including North Carolina and Duke," he said. "We had an opportunity to take unofficial visits to both schools in North Carolina. Benjamin offered to pay for our plane tickets and hotel room. When we went on the visits, we filled out the NCAA compliance forms and fully disclosed that our family friend, Benjamin Lincoln, had paid for the trips.

              "When we were approached by the NCAA, we cooperated naturally," he continued. "We had told the truth from the beginning and had disclosed everything. It is frustrating that we have been honest and above board from the start and now there are those who are questioning what we did. ... I don't think we've done anything wrong."

              Reached by phone, Lincoln told CBSSports.com that he did indeed fund at least two of Muhammad's unofficial visits but insisted he believes his involvement is within NCAA rules.

              "I consider Ronald Holmes and Faye Muhammad as two of my dearest friends," Benjamin Lincoln told CBSSports.com. "I have had a close relationship for almost five years. For 10 years, they have lived in Las Vegas, the same city as my brother, so we were able to see each other often. As Shabazz began the process of looking at colleges, I offered to help Ronald and the family take unofficial visits to two colleges. I simply was trying to help the family I care so much about. It is important that this be resolved quickly and not negatively affect Shabazz in any way."

              Kavanagh attended many of Muhammad's high school events this season and acknowledged to CBSSports.com this week by phone that he'd like to someday represent Muhammad, who is projected as a future lottery pick of the NBA Draft. Still, Kavanagh said he believes he has violated no rules by donating money to Muhammad's summer program because he has known Dream Vision coach Clay Williams, who is Muhammad's godfather and Holmes' close friend, for more than two decades. Kavanagh thinks he has a preexisting relationship with the family that allows him to operate in this manner and within NCAA guidelines.
              Kavanagh, originally from the San Diego area, said he used to play basketball against Williams and Holmes at the La Jolla YMCA.

              "I first became involved with Dream Vision this past summer," Kavanagh said.

              And why has he traveled with Muhammad's high school team?

              "Every chance I can I'll watch Shabazz play," Kavanagh answered. "I never thought it would lead to so much attention because I've known Clay so long."

              Sources told CBSSports.com the NCAA is skeptical that these relationships -- and the financial assistance they've provided Muhammad's summer team and family -- are legitimately unrelated to Muhammad's athletic ability, which could in turn compromise Muhammad's amateur status. That's among the reasons the NCAA contacted schools still pursuing Muhammad and essentially informed them that though they are free to continue recruiting the 6-foot-5 wing, they should understand that there are potential amateurism issues.

              Another interesting twist to Muhammad's recruitment is the perceived role of Adidas.

              Industry sources have claimed for more than a year that Muhammad would almost certainly land at UCLA because Adidas is heavily invested in Muhammad through its sponsorship of Dream Vision, and because the Bruins are one of the shoe company's flagship programs. Some have even suggested Holmes is on payroll with Adidas, but he emphatically denied that to CBSSports.com. But Holmes did acknowledge that his daughter, Asia Muhammad, has a contract with Adidas. She's a professional tennis player ranked 386th in the world.

              "Now you can quote me on this," Holmes said. "What I have to say is that [Adidas] has never once come at me about 'Bazz going to an Adidas school. They'll say if he goes to an Adidas school like UCLA or Kansas that means they'll get to see him more because [they] go and watch those games. But they've never come at me like that. Adidas has never done anything they weren't supposed to do."

              Muhammad is still considering six schools: UCLA, Kansas, Kentucky, UNLV, Duke and USC.

              "We do not think we've done anything wrong," Holmes said. "But if we have, we'll deal with it."
              Shabazz Muhammad eligibility

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              • TheBrothers24
                SD/LA Chargers?
                • Sep 2007
                • 1915

                #262
                Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread

                The first allegation of the family getting paid unofficial visits is no different from assistant coaches of teams "reimbursing" families for coming out for visits.. Hell most assistants from universities take whatever bonus they get from the summer circuit and put it into a fund to "reimburse" families for their "unofficial visits".

                As for the shoe company angle, that's bs. Doesn't matter what school he attends, there will be a sponsorship waiting for him once he enters the draft.
                "This is for all of my peoples who understand and truly recognize. Some won't get it and for that i won't apologize"- Talib Kweli

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                • bigeastbumrush
                  My Momma's Son
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 19245

                  #263
                  Jakarr Samspon recommits to St. John's!!!!

                  Chose SJU over Kansas and Providence.

                  Committed to SJU in 2011 but was academically ineligible. Did a prep year at Brewster. Won a player if the year award and recommitted back to SJU!!

                  Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

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                  • Pitfighter87
                    Pro
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 803

                    #264
                    Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread

                    According to scouts.com Nerlens Noel cuts North Carolina and Uconn off list leaving Kentucky,Syracuse and Georgetown.

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                    • Yeah...THAT Guy
                      Once in a Lifetime Memory
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 17294

                      #265
                      Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread

                      Originally posted by Pitfighter87
                      According to scouts.com Nerlens Noel cuts North Carolina and Uconn off list leaving Kentucky,Syracuse and Georgetown.

                      http://www.wildcatworld.com/?p=18409
                      Still just screams Kentucky to me, but if he commits to Syracuse, that would be one hell of a young front court with Christmas, Coleman, Noels, and Keita.
                      NFL: Bills
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                      • jake44np
                        Post Like a Champion!
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 9563

                        #266
                        Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread

                        Got a chance to see IU's top recruit PG Yogi Ferrell over the weekend in the state finals game in Indy. He dominated the game falling 1 reb shy of a triple double. His team Park Tudor won by 22 and he finished with 17 pts 12 assists and 9 reb. It was their second straight state title.
                        Yogi will start at IU at the point from day one, he is a 5 star recruit and many of the scouting services have him as the # rated point guard. He is super quick and I cant wait to see him play for IU next year.
                        ND Season Ticket Holder since '72.

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                        • ProfessaPackMan
                          Bamma
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 63852

                          #267
                          Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread

                          According to the Baltimore Sun, ET Jr. aka Sam Cassell Jr. has committed to Maryland.
                          #RespectTheCulture

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                          • Yeah...THAT Guy
                            Once in a Lifetime Memory
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 17294

                            #268
                            Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread

                            Supposedly Nerlens Noel will have his decision within a week. I've been hearing so many different rumors about him lol.
                            NFL: Bills
                            NBA: Bucks
                            MLB: Cubs
                            NCAA: Syracuse
                            Soccer: USMNT/DC United

                            PSN: ButMyT-GunDont

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                            • TheBrothers24
                              SD/LA Chargers?
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 1915

                              #269
                              Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread

                              Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                              According to the Baltimore Sun, ET Jr. aka Sam Cassell Jr. has committed to Maryland.
                              Man yall basically signed a future starting lineup with an extra post plaer for the 6th man role lol. The key is how well Mark and his staff can develop these players, either way it feels good to see the rest of the ACC(yes including NC State) getting back on track on the recruiting trail.
                              "This is for all of my peoples who understand and truly recognize. Some won't get it and for that i won't apologize"- Talib Kweli

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                              • BunnyHardaway
                                Banned
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 15195

                                #270
                                Re: 2012 Recruiting Thread

                                Tony Parker apparently cuts his list down to UCLA, Kansas, and Duke. I have no idea how Duke is still in the race after all the (justified) complaints he's had about Wojo, but I'll take it.

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