2K needs to patch player roles NOW and not wait until next year.

[Cedrik]

Re: 2K needs to patch player roles NOW and not wait until next year.

Simple answer for now is to give us the ability to turn player roles off.

[rudawaknchi2nev]

Re: 2K needs to patch player roles NOW and not wait until next year.

Your original question was asking whether it was possible. Gosen replied that it wasn't. So what's the problem?

No problem, but my question wasn't for Gosen to answer and why would he unless he works for 2k.

[seanbarkley]

Re: 2K needs to patch player roles NOW and not wait until next year.

No problem, but my question wasn't for Gosen to answer and why would he unless he works for 2k.

Because he was just trying to help you. Something that you clearly don't deserve.

[Gosens6]

2K needs to patch player roles NOW and not wait until next year.

Because he was just trying to help you. Something that you clearly don't deserve.

Haha I'm glad someone said it. I'm sorry for trying to be a helpful member of the community.

I guess I did nothing but ruin his smartass crusade against Leftos.

I don't need to "work for 2K" to know the answer to such a simple question.


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[quehouston]

Re: 2K needs to patch player roles NOW and not wait until next year.

This is a thread i left on players roles a while ago, and it contains some of the ideas i wanna ask about having in game.

Edit: the link to this thread i made isn't working. just check all threads made by me in my arena, and look for player roles thread. To see what im talking about.

I really feel ppg and rating do play to big of a factor, as others have stated. And i would really like to see some option to tell players what there roles should be when you sign them.
Roles that should be implemented upon signing players are:
defensive stopper
defensive anchor
post presence
scorer
leader/superstar/franchise player
backup big
backup pg
6th man/bench spark plug/hustle guy
secondary ball handler
veteran presence
3 and D guy

I also feel that we should have the ability(if its possible to implement this) to give them more than one role. Say for instance guys like andre iguodala are on gsw to do more than be a defensive stopper. he's also there to play the point forward role, as well as be a type of hustle guy. I would love to see the ability to chose one of my role players as to be maybe a backup big/secondary ball handler, much like andray blatche. Or make my 6th man a backup big, like tyler hansborough or whatever i want there secondary position to be. this way there clear on what there role is, and they don't try to do to much. this was also an idea i had for mycareer, but you guys up and changed the whole game mode, but thats another story in and of itself.

I'm actually really in love with this idea, and I feel like It was overlooked in this thread.

We can keep the same roles, but just expand them into subcategories.

Starter: Franchise Player/Star, Facilitator, Lockdown Defender, Defensive Anchor, etc.

6th Man: Combo Ball Handler, Dynamic, Hustle Man, etc.

Role Player: 3 and D, 3pt Specialist, Rebounder, Defensive Post Presence, etc.

Benchwarmer: Roster Filler, Prospect.


I feel like this would be a cool system, you would be able to tell your player EXACTLY what his role on the team would be, instead of just telling him 6th Man and him getting pissed that he isn't getting starter minutes. It would be cool if Sig Skills tied into player roles somehow in MyGM, too.

[BobbyColtrane]

Re: 2K needs to patch player roles NOW and not wait until next year.

Leftos first off thank you for all the work that you've done, not just on this game but on your mods and editors throughout the years.

We need an option for 30 team control and turn off roles like we had in the past. At least until some of this crazy logic is fixed. Rookies can't demand trades if they don't like their minutes, unless they're Royce White or something. You just don't see it, it's unrealistic.

[Theyhateme459]

Re: 2K needs to patch player roles NOW and not wait until next year.

Why clog this thread with the BS especially if someone is speaking with good intentions like myself.

Gosens6 the question was to Leftos my kind sir. keep flooding this thread and he won't see the question i reposted to him again.

Or did he see it? don don don...

This is not meant in any negative way...

I think what people are missing is the purpose of this thread is a how can we or what ideas are there to fix/improve player roles going forward... Ideas for their team to brainstorm over. This is not a thread to complain and/or ask why about historical decisions (Not putting a feature in the game).

There are good ideas in here if we focus on the future and not have this thread be like most others pointing out what we don't like about the current game.

The more we stay on task, someone may produce and idea that triggers a thought that makes NBA2K15 that much better.

[apollooff320]

Re: 2K needs to patch player roles NOW and not wait until next year.

This is not meant in any negative way...

I think what people are missing is the purpose of this thread is a how can we or what ideas are there to fix/improve player roles going forward... Ideas for their team to brainstorm over. This is not a thread to complain and/or ask why about historical decisions (Not putting a feature in the game).

There are good ideas in here if we focus on the future and not have this thread be like most others pointing out what we don't like about the current game.

The more we stay on task, someone may produce and idea that triggers a thought that makes NBA2K15 that much better.

Do u see the thread title I made? Do you see the word "NOW" in all caps? I didn't make this thread with the assumption of them to fix the problems for future releases. Most of us who spent $60 on this game want a fix for the current game. I will not buy 2K15 if this game stays in it's current state. 2K15 is a while off they need to fix the game that they just released a week ago not move on to the next version.

[mostoriginal]

Re: 2K needs to patch player roles NOW and not wait until next year.

Players' morale should NOT drop because of lack of playing time when they're injured. It has been this way for years. If they were pissed off before, being injured won't change that fact. So if he kept getting more and more pissed off WHILE injured, I'd have to look into that. If he's injured and pissed off because he was pissed off before getting injured, that's not a bug.

No he actually had a high morale before he got injured then after he just kept getting more pissed and now is demanding a trade. Can't even grant him that since he's injured.


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[Leftos]

Re: 2K needs to patch player roles NOW and not wait until next year.

Then he's getting pissed about his role, not playing time. Players will never get more pissed off about not playing when injured, but they might still think their role on the team isn't good enough.

[jeremym480]

Re: 2K needs to patch player roles NOW and not wait until next year.

This is not meant in any negative way...

I think what people are missing is the purpose of this thread is a how can we or what ideas are there to fix/improve player roles going forward... Ideas for their team to brainstorm over. This is not a thread to complain and/or ask why about historical decisions (Not putting a feature in the game).

There are good ideas in here if we focus on the future and not have this thread be like most others pointing out what we don't like about the current game.

The more we stay on task, someone may produce and idea that triggers a thought that makes NBA2K15 that much better.

I agree with your point about this shouldn't be a thread for complaints, but I disagree about this thread only effecting the future. I recall reading that in the new NG systems are supposedly easier to patch or at least that there's an easier approval process now. Either way we don't know the power of these machines yet, so I don't think that expecting this to be patched (as long as we remain reasonable) is out of the realm of possibility.

Also we know that other companies have added in things like the ability to edit rating with a patch in the past. I'm not saying that 2k can definitely do it, but if that other company was able to, then I'm hopeful that 2k would be able to, as well.

I believe that the OP's intent was to have the option of turning player roles Off. And I agree that would be beneficial to many here. However, I've always Played with Player Roles On in the past and I would like to see the logic tweaked instead. I've always enjoyed playing with player morale On because of the strategic element of it. At least in Last gen we had a fail safe though because there was a work around where you could reset a players morale if you didn't think that player would have a morale issue. If we had something like that this year, then that would help alleviate most of the issues here.

I'm not a dev and don't pretend to know how things work behind the scenes. I also don't know how easy things are to implement, but I would be willing to guess that doing something like adding the ability to manually reset player morale or review and approve/veto trades isn't something that they would be able to add in 2K14. However, those are great ideas going forward.

For 2k14 I assume that the most they could do is tweak logic. If they could just add it to where rookies don't get upset, as well as players who are "Laid Back", then I think that would be helpful. Also, if players who are predominantly bench or role players, wouldn't get upset as much then that would be great too. Like I said, I don't know how it works behind the scenes and whether is based off of ratings or roles they should have their minutes/role threshold drastically reduced.

I have faith that something that can done to at least slow down the issue and if it can be, then this game could easily be on of my favorites ever. My fingers are crossed.

[Sundown]

Re: 2K needs to patch player roles NOW and not wait until next year.

Then he's getting pissed about his role, not playing time. Players will never get more pissed off about not playing when injured, but they might still think their role on the team isn't good enough.

But if its not possible to rectify his situation because he's injured, why would he become more unhappy assuming he's a reasonable person?

There's no way to rectify things even by promising that he will have an increased role when he comes back. That doesn't seem like a realistic situation not to mention a somewhat frustrating gameplay design.

[mostoriginal]

2K needs to patch player roles NOW and not wait until next year.

Then he's getting pissed about his role, not playing time. Players will never get more pissed off about not playing when injured, but they might still think their role on the team isn't good enough.

I see. I don't think that should be a factor though. Why would I change him from role player to starter or whatever if he can't even play. I think injured players morale should stay stagnant unless the team is doing badly but that's my opinion.

Edit: maybe it even goes into adding more roles like someone said before. Maybe if he knew he's there for a veteran presence he wouldn't be upset with his role. Especially taking his age into factor.

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[doctorhay53]

Re: 2K needs to patch player roles NOW and not wait until next year.

Injured players could get frustrated about being injured..... but it makes no sense whatsoever for an injured player to be upset about his role.

I think this actually speaks to part of what the problem is.....

Players should be upset when their ACTUAL role (i.e. minutes, points, etc. per game) is not in line with their DEFINED role.

A player who accepts a contract for a certain role should NOT get upset about his DEFINED role, unless that player makes a big jump in overall or something. He should only get upset when his ACTUAL role is much less than what he was told his role actually would be.

[LorenzoDC]

Re: 2K needs to patch player roles NOW and not wait until next year.

Injured players could get frustrated about being injured..... but it makes no sense whatsoever for an injured player to be upset about his role.

I think this actually speaks to part of what the problem is.....

Players should be upset when their ACTUAL role (i.e. minutes, points, etc. per game) is not in line with their DEFINED role.

A player who accepts a contract for a certain role should NOT get upset about his DEFINED role, unless that player makes a big jump in overall or something. He should only get upset when his ACTUAL role is much less than what he was told his role actually would be.

Well, Unpredictable personality and Not Loyal modifiers can influence this, but it's still way overdone.

When you sign a 33 year old backup with an overall of 72 as, say, a PF to spell your 3rd year 77 PF who is your starter, he should not have his overall drop after 3 weeks because he's unhappy with his 12 minutes AND role. Especially when you signed him because he has a Neutral personaility and is Loyal or Very Loyal.