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  • Davon_A_Brown
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    • May 2013
    • 532

    #406
    Re: NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

    I ended up only making two deadline moves.

    Toronto Raptors receive: Serge Ibaka
    Orlando Magic receive: Terrence Ross, Jared Sullinger, 2018 Loterry Protected 1st Round Pick

    Boston Celtics receive: Paul Millsap
    Atlanta Hawks receive: Amir Johnson, 2018 Top 10 Protected 1st Round Pick

    I had a three team trade in mind that sent Rudy Gay to the Thunder and Enes Kanter to the Pelicans, but come to find out Rudy Gay is injured in MyLeague as well.


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    • TheFinalEvent97
      MVP
      • Jul 2016
      • 1519

      #407
      Re: NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

      Whats up with trade logic for Centers? some of the deals it throws up are ridiculous, some trade finder suggestions i got
      Pistons receive:
      Al Horford
      Celtics Receive:
      Andre Drummond

      Jazz receive:
      Dario Saric
      Celtics receive:
      Rudy Gobert

      I think their are two main problems with AI trade logic,
      1. Players with overalls lower than ~90 with max contracts/5 year extensions arent valued by the AI, players like Drummond, Gobert, Middleton, Jordan
      2. I suspect that the AI values offense more than defense, for example the Gobert trade above the AI will agree to, but the Blazers wont accept Avery Bradley+1st Round 2017 Nets+1st Round 2018 Nets+1st Round 2020 Celtics(last two picks unprotected) for C.J McCollum

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      • dpower15
        MVP
        • Jul 2012
        • 1029

        #408
        Re: NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by BlueJays09

        Celtics get: Brogdon, Monroe, Novak, late 1st/early second

        Bucks get: Johnson, Rozier, Green



        Basically Johnson/Monroe are similar, but Monroe holds that 17 mil player option while Johnson is a FA and the Bucks could use that cap (hence why the pick is added). Rozier/Green gives the Bucks depth at PG/SG and I get Brogdon who will play with my rotation.

        I think the Bucks get railed in this trade. While similar, Johnson can't man the 5 quite as well as Monroe, and the Bucks don't have much else at that position. Maybe toss in Zeller with Johnson and that evens out for Monroe (I assume Zeller is rotting on your bench most nights anyway).

        Green doesn't add any value from a trade perspective, so basically him for Novak is a wash.

        That basically leaves Brogdon and a 1st for Rozier. I like Rozier, but Brogdon has been playing really well IRL and I doubt they'd move him right now for Rozier who still hasn't really proven himself at the NBA level (although I really like the guy and have my eye on him for my Nets franchise). So I'm not a fan of this piece, but if you like Monroe I think you could make the trade without Rozier, Brogdon and the pick.

        You could look into Lou Will on the Lakers, Etwaun Moore in NO, Jennings from the Knicks as pretty low cost options. But I think the best target would be Brandon Knight since he's a potential trade candidate IRL.

        A lottery protected first and Rozier would be a fair price for Knight in my opinion. The Suns don't really need another PG, but maybe they slide Rozier to the 2 and use him as a combo guard off the bench? I dot know a ton about Rozier, but I think he's more of a combo guard than a pure PG right? You may need to add some other pieces to make the salaries match also.



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        • BlueJays09
          MVP
          • Jul 2011
          • 2553

          #409
          NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by dpower15
          I think the Bucks get railed in this trade. While similar, Johnson can't man the 5 quite as well as Monroe, and the Bucks don't have much else at that position. Maybe toss in Zeller with Johnson and that evens out for Monroe (I assume Zeller is rotting on your bench most nights anyway).

          Green doesn't add any value from a trade perspective, so basically him for Novak is a wash.

          That basically leaves Brogdon and a 1st for Rozier. I like Rozier, but Brogdon has been playing really well IRL and I doubt they'd move him right now for Rozier who still hasn't really proven himself at the NBA level (although I really like the guy and have my eye on him for my Nets franchise). So I'm not a fan of this piece, but if you like Monroe I think you could make the trade without Rozier, Brogdon and the pick.

          You could look into Lou Will on the Lakers, Etwaun Moore in NO, Jennings from the Knicks as pretty low cost options. But I think the best target would be Brandon Knight since he's a potential trade candidate IRL.

          A lottery protected first and Rozier would be a fair price for Knight in my opinion. The Suns don't really need another PG, but maybe they slide Rozier to the 2 and use him as a combo guard off the bench? I dot know a ton about Rozier, but I think he's more of a combo guard than a pure PG right? You may need to add some other pieces to make the salaries match also.



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          Thanks for this. I never know how to judge deals so this is very helpful. I was hoping to get brogdon and Monroe but if the first is too much maybe I'll pass and hope Monroe opts out and I can sign him in the offseason. I could possibly trade Johnson, Rozier, second rounder for Monroe and Brogdon but then it still doesn't help them at Center as you mentioned.

          Lou will is interesting as is Jennings and Knight to act as a scorer that I need off the bench. I could package Rozier and the pick for one of those. I would likely need to add Johnson in any trade to match salary but then I would need a bench PF so would likely ask for one back. Any options? Johnson has played well as a starter/bench big and his expiring contract would be welcomed to any team needing a big/rebuilding.

          Rozier, Lottery protected 1st, Johnson for Jennings, Knight or Lou + available bench PF from the respective team. I guess as a last resort I could play Hickson at the 4 or sign someone like Landry if no one was realistic.


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          • dpower15
            MVP
            • Jul 2012
            • 1029

            #410
            Re: NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by BlueJays09
            Thanks for this. I never know how to judge deals so this is very helpful. I was hoping to get brogdon and Monroe but if the first is too much maybe I'll pass and hope Monroe opts out and I can sign him in the offseason. I could possibly trade Johnson, Rozier, second rounder for Monroe and Brogdon but then it still doesn't help them at Center as you mentioned.

            Lou will is interesting as is Jennings and Knight to act as a scorer that I need off the bench. I could package Rozier and the pick for one of those. I would likely need to add Johnson in any trade to match salary but then I would need a bench PF so would likely ask for one back. Any options? Johnson has played well as a starter/bench big and his expiring contract would be welcomed to any team needing a big/rebuilding.

            Rozier, Lottery protected 1st, Johnson for Jennings, Knight or Lou + available bench PF from the respective team. I guess as a last resort I could play Hickson at the 4 or sign someone like Landry if no one was realistic.


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            Yeah I think that works for any of those guys. For Jennings or Lou I don't think you'd need to include the pick, only need the pick for Knight since he's more valuable than them IMO.

            I don't think any of those teams have a PF that fits the value/skill set you're looking for though. You could make it a separate deal and grab Casspi from SAC for something cheap like a future 2nd or James Young, if you like Casspis style of play that is.



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            • BlueJays09
              MVP
              • Jul 2011
              • 2553

              #411
              Re: NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by dpower15
              Yeah I think that works for any of those guys. For Jennings or Lou I don't think you'd need to include the pick, only need the pick for Knight since he's more valuable than them IMO.

              I don't think any of those teams have a PF that fits the value/skill set you're looking for though. You could make it a separate deal and grab Casspi from SAC for something cheap like a future 2nd or James Young, if you like Casspis style of play that is.



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              Thanks. Jennings/Lou without a pick would be appealing, but I might think of taking the better player in Knight. I have already sent 2 picks away to get Ibaka so maybe Ill stick with no 1st in the deal. Yea, I don't really like Casspi for the role I am looking for. I would want a true sized, not a SF/PF, but a PF with a slight offensive touch who can rebound and play D to make up for Kelly O as the other big. In other words Amir Johnson lol. Jerebko was in the role before the Ibaka trade, but he was involved in that deal. I do like Carl Landry from FA. I guess I could check the teams who are out of it and see who fits that bill. Make it a 3-team deal. I won't likely make a deal until another 2 weeks or so into my season, but it is good to start thinking of options I have. Thanks!
              Last edited by BlueJays09; 01-25-2017, 03:38 PM.

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              • sburas17
                Just started!
                • Jan 2017
                • 1

                #412
                Re: NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

                I am seeking input on what Jersey number Paul George or Jimmy Butler would switch to, if traded to the 76ers. Embiid is #21 and 13 and 24 are retired. Thanks!

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                • BlueJays09
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 2553

                  #413
                  NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by dpower15
                  Yeah I think that works for any of those guys. For Jennings or Lou I don't think you'd need to include the pick, only need the pick for Knight since he's more valuable than them IMO.

                  I don't think any of those teams have a PF that fits the value/skill set you're looking for though. You could make it a separate deal and grab Casspi from SAC for something cheap like a future 2nd or James Young, if you like Casspis style of play that is.



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                  Just to follow up on this. Knight is out 6 months with a fractured vertebrae in neck. I have searched around and Scola from the Nets is very intriguing. I thought of this 3 team deal:

                  Celtics get: Jennings, Scola
                  Knicks get: Johnson, Rozier
                  Nets get: Lance Thomas, 2nd rounder (from NY)

                  I get my scorer off of the bench and a typical scoring PF. Knicks get Rozier as a controllable backup Pg and upgrade their Bigs. Nets get lance thomas who is under team control for 3 years for Scola and get a 2nd rounder for taking on the extra salary.

                  How does that look?


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                  • dpower15
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 1029

                    #414
                    Re: NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by sburas17
                    I am seeking input on what Jersey number Paul George or Jimmy Butler would switch to, if traded to the 76ers. Embiid is #21 and 13 and 24 are retired. Thanks!


                    Maybe check what numbers they wore for the Olympics?


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                    • dpower15
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 1029

                      #415
                      Re: NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by BlueJays09
                      Just to follow up on this. Knight is out 6 months with a fractured vertebrae in neck. I have searched around and Scola from the Nets is very intriguing. I thought of this 3 team deal:

                      Celtics get: Jennings, Scola
                      Knicks get: Johnson, Rozier
                      Nets get: Lance Thomas, 2nd rounder (from NY)

                      I get my scorer off of the bench and a typical scoring PF. Knicks get Rozier as a controllable backup Pg and upgrade their Bigs. Nets get lance thomas who is under team control for 3 years for Scola and get a 2nd rounder for taking on the extra salary.

                      How does that look?


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                      It sounds good but I think you could get more from the Knicks than just Jennings if you're giving them Rozier and Amir. Amir alone is more valuable than Jennings, so adding a former 1st rounder with him means you could definitely ask for more. Kyle O'Quinn and a future 2nd would balance it, and then you wouldn't even need to include Scola.



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                      • jeremym480
                        Speak it into existence
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 18198

                        #416
                        Re: NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by BlueJays09
                        Just to follow up on this. Knight is out 6 months with a fractured vertebrae in neck. I have searched around and Scola from the Nets is very intriguing. I thought of this 3 team deal:

                        Celtics get: Jennings, Scola
                        Knicks get: Johnson, Rozier
                        Nets get: Lance Thomas, 2nd rounder (from NY)

                        I get my scorer off of the bench and a typical scoring PF. Knicks get Rozier as a controllable backup Pg and upgrade their Bigs. Nets get lance thomas who is under team control for 3 years for Scola and get a 2nd rounder for taking on the extra salary.

                        How does that look?


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                        I think you're on the losing end of that trade, but if you think makes your team better than go for it.

                        Rozier plays pretty well for me in a limited role but doesn't get too much playing time behind IT4, Bradley, and Smart. I'd take him over Jennings or Jack and I'd probably take Amir over Scola. Making this trade may help you in the short term, but losing a young player who has controllable contract and two players with Bird Years could potentially come back to bite you in the future.
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                        • BlueJays09
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 2553

                          #417
                          Re: NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by dpower15
                          It sounds good but I think you could get more from the Knicks than just Jennings if you're giving them Rozier and Amir. Amir alone is more valuable than Jennings, so adding a former 1st rounder with him means you could definitely ask for more. Kyle O'Quinn and a future 2nd would balance it, and then you wouldn't even need to include Scola.



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                          Originally posted by jeremym480
                          I think you're on the losing end of that trade, but if you think makes your team better than go for it.



                          Rozier plays pretty well for me in a limited role but doesn't get too much playing time behind IT4, Bradley, and Smart. I'd take him over Jennings or Jack and I'd probably take Amir over Scola. Making this trade may help you in the short term, but losing a young player who has controllable contract and two players with Bird Years could potentially come back to bite you in the future.


                          Thanks guys for the feedback. I wasn't 100 perfect sure on it but with getting OQuinn back it might be worth it. Jack has played really well for me this year. He fits how I play perfect. Jennings is a better scorer I think than Rozier at this point and I'm 100% in win now mode. I could grab another PG the offseason or draft one if need be. I might consider the deal for Jennings and O'Quinn. Thanks for the help guys!


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                          • PleadtheFoe5th
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 306

                            #418
                            Re: NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

                            Melo to the clippers!.... how can I make it happen (without giving up the stars)

                            Thinkin

                            Nyk gets:
                            Redick
                            Rivers
                            Pierce
                            '19&'20 2nds (both my 1st's are backup protected)

                            Clippers get:
                            Melo
                            Baker
                            Holiday

                            Knicks already said they'd be willing to trade with clips even though they won't trade their stars
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                            • 2kCharles
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 190

                              #419
                              Re: NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by PleadtheFoe5th
                              Melo to the clippers!.... how can I make it happen (without giving up the stars)

                              Thinkin

                              Nyk gets:
                              Redick
                              Rivers
                              Pierce
                              '19&'20 2nds (both my 1st's are backup protected)

                              Clippers get:
                              Melo
                              Baker
                              Holiday

                              Knicks already said they'd be willing to trade with clips even though they won't trade their stars
                              Don't see the Knicks wanting Pierce...side note who becomes your starting two, or a guy that can actually score off ball? Paul, Griffin and Melo and Crawford all need the ball in their hand to be effectice...Switch Griffin for Mbah Mutah possibly, dude is a good defensive 3 and gives the Knicks some talent there. Side note Lee, Redick and Rivers really clog up the 2, plus Jennings and Rose at the 1? Another team needs to be added, possibly dump Redick or Lee to another team for a 1st round pick or something along those lines. Redick and Lee both are a bit aged for a rebuild/building around Porzinges.

                              The value is there...for the most part, but Mbah Mutah brings more value then Pierce in the trade IMO, plus you need to find a way to get rid of Lee or Redick for picks most likely. Probably Lee since he comes mute with a younger Rivers coming into town and a better Redick.
                              Last edited by 2kCharles; 01-26-2017, 07:56 PM.

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                              • PleadtheFoe5th
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2016
                                • 306

                                #420
                                Re: NBA 2K17 Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by 2kCharles
                                Don't see the Knicks wanting Pierce...side note who becomes your starting two, or a guy that can actually score off ball? Paul, Griffin and Melo and Crawford all need the ball in their hand to be effectice...Switch Griffin for Mbah Mutah possibly, dude is a good defensive 3 and gives the Knicks some talent there. Side note Lee, Redick and Rivers really clog up the 2, plus Jennings and Rose at the 1? Another team needs to be added, possibly dump Redick or Lee to another team for a 1st round pick or something along those lines. Redick and Lee both are a bit aged for a rebuild/building around Porzinges.

                                The value is there...for the most part, but Mbah Mutah brings more value then Pierce in the trade IMO, plus you need to find a way to get rid of Lee or Redick for picks most likely. Probably Lee since he comes mute with a younger Rivers coming into town and a better Redick.

                                Well from the reports...it definitely looks like the clippers have the leverage.....knicks shopped Melo, clips said they're interested in Lee lolz....also said they'd entertain trades without the clips big3.... I would have offered a top3 protected 1st if I had 1 to offer..... what would you recommend?

                                Mbah amut instead of Pierce?
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