Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

[nyk_fatboy]

Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

i'm def interested in a build with rebounding....v interested in defending/rebounding....the rebounder/finisher is probably more fun/sexier but i'm tired of getting dunked on all the time and i'm wondering if having pure defense or defense as a primary will help me control the paint more or if it's just the way the game plays this year....my slashing post scorer is max height/weight and he gets dunked on with ease....

7'3 340 vert to fat to block unless you time it perfectly, at this weight and height your better off just going straight up with your hands.

rebounding/athletic and athletic/rebound or defending/rebounding and rebounding/defending might give you leverage with max weight/height because you still got decent vert to block shots but even with these archetypes i think you should go like 305 and lower.. forget what the bars say weight is the biggest factor along with height.

my guy is a 7'3 rebounding/athletic 300lbs and i get blocks maybe not at a high rate but they do come. im not to small and not to heavy i like him.

if anything go like 260 pounds youll get mad blocks but you will be squishy around the rim with low weight like that but youll have better jump vert.

[Trc1982]

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Which archetypes have pick and popper? Just three pointers?

[jrode]

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What do you guys think is a better archetype combo?

6'4" SG (DWade type of player)
Primary: Driving and Finishing
Secondary: Shot Creating (or Passing & Ballhandling)

or

6'8" SF (Wiggins-esque player)
Primary: Driving and Finishing
Secondary: Shot Creating

[MrBallaBoy21]

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Idk if you guys follow witnessgaming on YouTube , but they are posting maxed stats for all builds . This is possible due to a PC hack if I’m not mistaken.

https://www.youtube.com/user/oIFaMouZo

I can't wait til I get enough VC to make another player. A shot creating post scorer SG is gonna be so good

[NBA2K2]

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think i might've found my guy....went with a 7"2 290lb defender/rebounder...i know he's gonna be meh on offense outside of put backs and wide open dunks...but, it's a good combo of both my players from last year(6"9 200 LDD SF/7"3 282 REB C) and i'm used to having a minimal role on offense....just had 6-18-7 in my first game with him in a drop-in which was unfortunately against a generic CPU center...hoping i hold up well against the max height/weight guys!

[NBA2K2]

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7'3 340 vert to fat to block unless you time it perfectly, at this weight and height your better off just going straight up with your hands.

rebounding/athletic and athletic/rebound or defending/rebounding and rebounding/defending might give you leverage with max weight/height because you still got decent vert to block shots but even with these archetypes i think you should go like 305 and lower.. forget what the bars say weight is the biggest factor along with height.

my guy is a 7'3 rebounding/athletic 300lbs and i get blocks maybe not at a high rate but they do come. im not to small and not to heavy i like him.

if anything go like 260 pounds youll get mad blocks but you will be squishy around the rim with low weight like that but youll have better jump vert.

#1 thanks for all your help/info
#2 went with defending/rebounding 7"2 290...this guy can move and i should still be able to get around max strength even @ 290...so, i should be faster/more athletic than the max guys and have around the same strength

[VictorOzieh]

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Does anyone know if wingspan actually matters this year?

matters every year...

[VictorOzieh]

Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

What do you guys think is a better archetype combo?

6'4" SG (DWade type of player)
Primary: Driving and Finishing
Secondary: Shot Creating (or Passing & Ballhandling)

or

6'8" SF (Wiggins-esque player)
Primary: Driving and Finishing
Secondary: Shot Creating

you got the same build with different heights im confused?

[jrode]

Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

you got the same build with different heights im confused?

Are there any pros/cons to being one height/positon or the other?

The SG build would most likely be Driving & Finishing/Passing and Ballhandling, though.

[Thrustie]

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It's not that my view is skewed, as I play guard, wing, and big (when moved to the 4 or 5, which is more often than not) and I've seen it all, and know that an equal amount of accountability can be held on both sides.

If a big only touches the ball on rebounds, I can kind of see that creeping in. However, when you do have guards (myself, for instance) that are willing to throw it down when you have good positioning, that doesn't mean disable your pass button, especially when opposing guards become braindead and run off their man, leaving a wide open shooter on the perimeter. That's the point I'm getting at.

I don't think the accountability is the same at all. The guard(s) get the majority of the possession time by nature. As a big, you are almost never in control of the amount of ball touches you're going to get. People who choose to be bigs are typically mentally prepared for that. Ball hogs or dribble gods are naturally more inclined to be guards. While there is the odd example of a big pulling down a board and going full court, they're far from the norm as it's nearly impossible to be successful with that play style. Trigger happy bigs are more often a product of neglect than actually wired that way. I've played around 15 games this year and not once has a big led in FGA on either team. If I attempted a shot every time I was passed the ball in the half court, I would be hard pressed to put up 15 shots most games. It's not even that I want the ball every possession but it would be amazing to be passed the ball in the post so I could do work a few times a game. As it stands, I really only get passes consistently for open dunks.

[Hustle Westbrook]

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Well, the grind was real lol. Finally maxed out all my yellow bars to get my Shot Creating/Sharp to an 87 overall. And shout out to Sweet Cookie for making the process 100x less tedious.

Gonna have a lot of fun with this build. It's a scoring machine. Might have my first 50 point game in years lol.

[cablexdeadpool]

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Creating a Two-Way non-big is so not worth it.


What is the point of creating a two-way player when you will only get a silver Defensive Stopper Badge and defensive stats that don't matter in the 70s, lateral quickness that is below your position average and some other defensive badges?

Your opponents will have defensive stats in the 70s, lateral quckiness that is relative to yours and a bronze Defensive Stopper....with superior offensive stats...

[Conspiculous]

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Crazy mixtape, I especially like the defending parts of it!

Can you shed some light on what tiers your defensive badges max out at?

I have a 6'5 Pure SC who can't dunk even after patch, so I am looking into what to do instead. And since Park is so damn laggy I am looking into a more driving build.

6'6 Shot creating Slasher (Slash first, decent midrange, good athlete)
6'6 Two way slasher (full on dunking with good defensive caps)
6'6 Slashing Shot creator (sort of in between, kobe build)

The 2 first are very similar, very fast without the ball. The first is a bit more well-rounded on offense, while the build you have seem to lack midrange.

Thanks! Defensive stopper is gold, charge card gold, pick Pocket gold, and pick dodger gold.

I recommend a two way slasher. My player only dunks on people because I did the contact dunks animation glitch.

I get them anyway since I'm a secondary slasher, but I don't know when I get my final dunk attribute to actually get it legit.

[cablexdeadpool]

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I gave up on trying to create Toronto Tracy Mcgrady...

I also gave up on trying to create Charles Barkley, the ratings were just too terrible to justify making a 6'6 Power Forward...Ima keep him though and level him up, but he's not gonna be priority since it's just not that competitive enough of a build.

Decided to create Anthony Davis, Magic TMAC, Penny Hardaway and Young Scottie Pippen instead.


Tried to create Porzingis and instead created some freak of nature DemiGod thing....that can shoot 3s and do flashy passes at 7'1 225...


So far I have

Wilt Chamberlain, Anthony Davis, Nuggets Carmelo, Young Scottie, Penny and DemiGod.

[MrBallaBoy21]

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I also gave up on trying to create Charles Barkley, the ratings were just too terrible to justify making a 6'6 Power Forward...Ima keep him though and level him up, but he's not gonna be priority since it's just not that competitive enough of a build.

What combination did you try? From an offensive standpoint Post Scorer/Shot Creator matches Chuck's playstyle perfectly.