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  • Caelumfang
    MVP
    • Oct 2012
    • 1218

    #781
    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

    Originally posted by Housh123
    I just realized that the PG position this year is going to be a worthless title. There are going to be so many dual archetypes with playmakers that really making a guy to run point is going to be frustrating if you don't play with your friends


    I will be a main culprit. If I get a rebound I'm not gonna lie my first instinct will be to Draymond Green it and take off with it and look for a pass myself. I have to imagine I'm not the only big man making ball handing his secondary for this exact reason.


    Something to think about if you want to make a PG this year.


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    Please don't be one of those bigs. Even Rockie will tell you, after the second time I see a big trying to bring the ball up court after a rebound, I have this natural tendency to start calling timeout on their butts, lol.

    I hate seeing that. Get that ball up-court on fastbreaks. Not saying you have to bomb it every time, but I wanna see that ball moving fast on fastbreaks.
    Last edited by Caelumfang; 09-11-2017, 07:01 AM.

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    • Housh123
      Banned
      • Jan 2011
      • 1173

      #782
      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

      Originally posted by Caelumfang
      Please don't be one of those bigs. Even Rockie will tell you, after the second time I see a big trying to bring the ball up court after a rebound, I have this natural tendency to start calling timeout on their butts.

      I hate seeing that. Get that ball up-court on fastbreaks.


      Lol I know what your talking about


      I'm not gonna walk it up, hold it, wait for a screen and all that. I'm gonna get it, sprint it up, if I see a pass at any time I'll pass it but if I don't I'm gonna penetrate and try to bait someone to double and kick.


      And if for some reason I make it all the way to the paint untouched AND guys don't come off their man. Feel these post scorer moves then buddy



      Yeah I could see how ppl are gonna ruin that but I did it this year when I could and never got complaints because I was so willing to pass and I didn't force it to ppl and get them turnovers.

      But yeah I can already tell some bigs will pick athletic finisher ball handlers and wont pass lol don't need to be a fortune teller to see that one


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      • derrtyRedd
        Rookie
        • Apr 2015
        • 228

        #783
        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

        Originally posted by ViolenceFight
        This. It's how I lived as a Slasher last year. "This guy over-shades baseline, Middle penetration" or "He's seen this move X times already, Let's see what happens when I tack this on the tail end".

        I can/could instantly tell when a guy was decent to good by the way he'd play D. Giving me a subset of playmaker skills when I ran slasher like a 6'6 draymond last year is ridiculous. If they do not change the way it currently feels, all the youtube chumps talking about "These duals give you speed boosting" while ignoring the substandard defense are going to get wrecked.

        Anyone worth a damn can tell this is NOT 2k17. At all.

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        Bro I say let them keep putting out those trash videos. They are gonna have a lot of upset viewers when they see how they are gonna get ate up defensively and all because they lust after speed boosting

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        • ph33
          MVP
          • Oct 2014
          • 3261

          #784
          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

          Originally posted by Caelumfang
          Please don't be one of those bigs. Even Rockie will tell you, after the second time I see a big trying to bring the ball up court after a rebound, I have this natural tendency to start calling timeout on their butts, lol.

          I hate seeing that. Get that ball up-court on fastbreaks. Not saying you have to bomb it every time, but I wanna see that ball moving fast on fastbreaks.
          I know what you're talking about, but there's been a LOT of walk ons I've played where when I grab the board, everybody else is already past half court. Even with bronze break starter I was not going to risk that pass.

          Funny thing is the guys who are point guard just sprint out and never come for the ball at all.

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          • Entiae
            Flip That Bat!
            • Apr 2008
            • 785

            #785
            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

            I'm thinking either SC/Playmaker or Defender/Playmaker for my PG, but I'm struggling to decide with one to roll with. I think both could be a lot of fun.

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            • kdurantmvp
              Pro
              • Mar 2012
              • 527

              #786
              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

              What's so special about speed boosting?


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              • ph33
                MVP
                • Oct 2014
                • 3261

                #787
                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                Originally posted by kdurantmvp
                What's so special about speed boosting?
                It's sort of a simulation of a quick first step. Once you get it activated it can be much harder for a defender to keep up with you.

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                • Vroman
                  Pro
                  • Aug 2014
                  • 959

                  #788
                  Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                  Originally posted by ph33
                  It's sort of a simulation of a quick first step. Once you get it activated it can be much harder for a defender to keep up with you.
                  Speedboost in 2k games havent been about first step as everyone would just activate it off a dribble already. It just glitch move that let your player move with ball faster than he normally can.

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                  • ph33
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 3261

                    #789
                    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                    Originally posted by Vroman
                    Speedboost in 2k games havent been about first step as everyone would just activate it off a dribble already. It just glitch move that let your player move with ball faster than he normally can.
                    ^Yeah that's more accurate

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                    • franzis
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 1451

                      #790
                      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                      Originally posted by Vroman
                      Speedboost in 2k games havent been about first step as everyone would just activate it off a dribble already. It just glitch move that let your player move with ball faster than he normally can.


                      and it's something different from the "momentum" dribble

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                      • Entiae
                        Flip That Bat!
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 785

                        #791
                        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                        Originally posted by Entiae
                        I'm thinking either SC/Playmaker or Defender/Playmaker for my PG, but I'm struggling to decide with one to roll with. I think both could be a lot of fun.
                        But I'm also intrigued by a Post Scorer/Defender (or vice versa) Big. I hope I have made up my mind by Friday.

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                        • illwill10
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 19827

                          #792
                          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                          Originally posted by Entiae
                          But I'm also intrigued by a Post Scorer/Defender (or vice versa) Big. I hope I have made up my mind by Friday.
                          I'm too. Im thinking of creating a 7' 260 C later on in the NBA season.

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                          • HowDareI
                            MVP
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 1900

                            #793
                            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                            I'm so hesitant to do anything cuz I'm the type to make 30 different players and it'll only be worse this year.

                            If things are relatively the same I know my bread and butter is gonna be a 7'2 post scorer, defender as my secondary type.

                            But I been playing the prelude and I want to be able to play small forward again. So I been trying every combo I can think of to be just a pure melo-esque scorer.

                            I'm not sure if I want to be a 6'8 sc/3 or SC/slasher...or even slasher/SC cuz I know speed is pretty important no matter what. It sucks cuz I know I'ma want to use my pre-order vc but I don't wanna make a mistake and waste it..then find a better build lol [emoji24][emoji24]

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                            • kdurantmvp
                              Pro
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 527

                              #794
                              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                              The fact that it seems like the road to 99 progress doesn't carry over to nba characters is forcing me with one character.


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                              • infemous
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 1568

                                #795
                                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                                Originally posted by kdurantmvp
                                The fact that it seems like the road to 99 progress doesn't carry over to nba characters is forcing me with one character.


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                                Especially because we can't see what attribute number we'll get until AFTER we spend the VC.

                                I'm gonna make 8 players with different builds, try and find out the their caps without spending VC and then delete the ones that don't feel good and maybe keep 3 in rotation throughout the year round, so I don't have to start to stary scratch every time.

                                But I'll definitely have one as my main probably my SF
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