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  • Rockie_Fresh88
    Lockdown Defender
    • Oct 2011
    • 9621

    #811
    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

    Originally posted by ph33
    Whoa what? That's crazy. That can't be right. If defense isn't either archetype no way should somebody have a defensive badge of any kind.
    Yeah he does. IMO along with defensive stopper only affecting positions similar to yours kind of diminishes the value of pure Lockdowns even more. If their is a pure LDD SF on the team assigning him to PG isn't going to do any good.
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    • The Gym Reaper
      Rookie
      • Jan 2017
      • 438

      #812
      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

      That's wack. Silver Defensive Stopper better be a huge step up.
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      • ph33
        MVP
        • Oct 2014
        • 3261

        #813
        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

        Stuff like this is exactly why it's just best to wait and see. Anybody who considered defensive archetype as a primary and/or secondary really has to re-think their decision now.

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        • Poohdini1
          Rookie
          • Aug 2017
          • 84

          #814
          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

          Going to download the prelude tonight. I'll probably go with shot creator/slasher or slasher/shot creator, depending on what the caps will be.

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          • mrmaupie
            Rookie
            • May 2012
            • 250

            #815
            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

            So here is a noob question i have.

            I know a post fadeway under the basket is upgraded by upgrading 'post scoring'. But if i do a post up and post fadeaway further away is this still considered post scoring or is that upgraded by upgrading midrange? And if so where is the line between the two? (Is it the paint?)

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            • Rockie_Fresh88
              Lockdown Defender
              • Oct 2011
              • 9621

              #816
              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

              Originally posted by mrmaupie
              So here is a noob question i have.

              I know a post fadeway under the basket is upgraded by upgrading 'post scoring'. But if i do a post up and post fadeaway further away is this still considered post scoring or is that upgraded by upgrading midrange? And if so where is the line between the two? (Is it the paint?)

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              Not sure if exact distance
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              • mrmaupie
                Rookie
                • May 2012
                • 250

                #817
                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                Not sure if exact distance
                Thanks. Seems strange though that in theory i could have a great midrange fadeaway but once i cross a certain line i could suck at the exact same move way closer to the basket.

                Man 2k is coming so soon and i still am not sure which team to go to and which archaetype i want to be lol

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                • de5m0n
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2015
                  • 996

                  #818
                  Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                  Originally posted by mrmaupie
                  Thanks. Seems strange though that in theory i could have a great midrange fadeaway but once i cross a certain line i could suck at the exact same move way closer to the basket.

                  Man 2k is coming so soon and i still am not sure which team to go to and which archaetype i want to be lol

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                  • JustCallMeSleepy
                    Rookie
                    • Dec 2015
                    • 158

                    #819
                    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                    Originally posted by de5m0n
                    if you playing offline then it doesn't really matter, you will dominate regardless.


                    Or there are offline players want a realistic challenge, so your "it doesn't really matter" comment is awfully irrelevant to his comments.


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                    • fakeassc
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 371

                      #820
                      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                      I feel like defensive archetypes are gonna suck again (except for that time LDD was pretty fotm in 2k17). I feel like 2k needs to buff the athleticism of LDD archetypes because that's how a lot of NBA defenders make their living. By being athletic and recovering well against athletic offensive players.

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                      • nyk_fatboy
                        Pro
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 708

                        #821
                        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                        Originally posted by fakeassc
                        I feel like defensive archetypes are gonna suck again (except for that time LDD was pretty fotm in 2k17). I feel like 2k needs to buff the athleticism of LDD archetypes because that's how a lot of NBA defenders make their living. By being athletic and recovering well against athletic offensive players.
                        the high steal success and ability to still make a mid range and even corner 3 made lockdowns really good. 2k took away the effectiveness of both things now you get more foul calls when you reach and a pure lockdowns 3 is non existent.

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                        • fakeassc
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 371

                          #822
                          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                          Yup. It's crazy how 2k18 made LDD so limited with no offensive power but have all the offensive archetypes a free bronze Defensive Stopper badge.

                          It's almost like 2k doesn't want people to make the LDD archetypes. 2k themselves not respecting the defensive side of basketball. It's embarrassing.

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                          • Zvonimir Boban
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 40

                            #823
                            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                            Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88

                            Every build gets defensive stopper bronze ? Is it a big jump between silver and bronze?
                            lol way to go 2K

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                            • nyk_fatboy
                              Pro
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 708

                              #824
                              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                              Originally posted by fakeassc
                              Yup. It's crazy how 2k18 made LDD so limited with no offensive power but have all the offensive archetypes a free bronze Defensive Stopper badge.

                              It's almost like 2k doesn't want people to make the LDD archetypes. 2k themselves not respecting the defensive side of basketball. It's embarrassing.
                              it will probably still be good in its own way but it really looks like you play true to your archetype with lockdown, but it looks like you'll at least a decent dunk when you hit the max cap for it but the shooting looks iffy still

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                              • Zvonimir Boban
                                Rookie
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 40

                                #825
                                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                                Originally posted by nyk_fatboy
                                it will probably still be good in its own way but it really looks like you play true to your archetype with lockdown, but it looks like you'll at least a decent dunk when you hit the max cap for it but the shooting looks iffy still
                                I don't mind having zero offence, I honestly don't, as long as non-defensive classes are equally nerfed in terms of lateral quickness and overall defensive ability.

                                But LDDs have zero offence while everyone else can still get lateral quickness higher than LDD can shoot AND get bronze defensive stopper? Just made pure defensive classes totally redundant.

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