Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

[Thunderhorse]

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bruh, I kept playing prelude in hopes of being able to access main menu so I can see what my gold badges were and boom, all of a sudden it tells me that i finished it. like wth?

They didnt even let me spend all this cash on VC which was a major suprise for me because i know they want this money asap lol.

That surprised my crew and I as well.

I understand this is a new atmosphere, but I was really hoping to get a look at animations and attributes so I could plan for the end of the week.

[sparkybob]

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I played as my LDD/LDD PF 6'10 and 235. I did alright in the prelude just my observations.

-Strength seems a lot more important in this game. I got bully on drives a couple of times

-Getting in good offensive position for a rebound was much tougher for me

-The post felt a lot more comfortable though. Even with my terrible ratings on the post it was still fun

-Passing is much tougher but that could be the AI defense. A lot of my passes were sloppy.

- On defense I had a tough time contesting shots. That could be due to my bad ratings or my build is too small to really be a factor on that end.

- I did get 3 blocks in one game but I think only one of them came from me as a help defender. I didn't have the speed to get into position.

-Only got 1 steal and that was me going up for a block.

So overall I wasn't too impressed with the build but it is early days.

[Leltail]

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Early to tell now but seems like strength will play a big factor on if you can get to the rim.

That's another factor....I was hoping going low on weight would give me more speed to offset the strength. I agree it is early to tell, I probably will not invest too much VC in a build until after the game is out a week.

[DakkoN]

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Went it 6'8 235 primary slasher secondary defender SF.

Got dunked on and called for a foul multiple times. Got dunked on a couple times and called for and1 smh. Couldn't shoot at all and missed a bunch of layups lol.

player did feel fast and responsive but also the spreadsheet said that i would get 3 HOF badges but i only got 2.

I hope someone updtes that spreadsheet with badges because 2K changed a bunch of them.

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The PG is what gets 3 badges and still does. PG gets posterizer, acrobat, and maybe relentless finisher purple.

[Ragnar53]

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Yes ! I could score in anyway. Thanks for the layup tip. I'll give one also. Mike Wang said pump fake fouls are back on jump shots. To do this pumpfake and press up on the RS while the defense is in the air . I went 6'8 230. What about you ?

I went with 6'7 225 on my alt new Zealand account.

I'm probably going to end up making mine 6'9 - 6'10 for a Paul George build, that way I can reliably guard 4's as well. At 6'7 bigs were still able to finish over me pretty consistently. I figure at 6'10 those finishes turn into blocks or smothered/heavily contested.

Also height matters in a big way this year. If you find your defender giving you space in the mid range give them a couple of pump fake into jabs (which I think is down on the right stuck from triple threat) and if they don't have their hand up because they are trying to play the drive? That's going to be super money with midrange deadeye because those are going to be lightly contested at best, and with max wingspan they are going to have to get all up in your grill, which sets up the quick double jabfake, which is really deadly this year.

[AshamanCarnage]

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Went with a 6'7 defense/shot creator and didn't really enjoy him. Didn't really fit with my style of play, thinking I'm going to go with a PG lockdown/athletic finisher.

[de5m0n]

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Went with a 6'7 defense/shot creator and didn't really enjoy him. Didn't really fit with my style of play, thinking I'm going to go with a PG lockdown/athletic finisher.

That pg will have absolutely no perimeter game you prepared for that?

I made a SF athetic finisher/lockdown and he felt useless if he couldnt get a dunk/layup. I'm thinking of making another player that atleast has respectable mid range shot.

For guards it will be even worse not having a shot. Plus u will be slow as hell with that mediocre ball handling.

I don't know I guess we just have to wait and see what the best builds will be.

[thedream2k16]

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Creating a player is a chess game this year with emphasis on TEAM PLAY meaning not all of you can be shooting guard shot creator/ dribblers with average shooting skill and low defensive stats. A team with a Perimeter defender and and competent rim protector will hurt your self esteem

Stop playing Checkers and play Chess

[AshamanCarnage]

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That pg will have absolutely no perimeter game you prepared for that?

I made a SF athetic finisher/lockdown and he felt useless if he couldnt get a dunk/layup. I'm thinking of making another player that atleast has respectable mid range shot.

For guards it will be even worse not having a shot. Plus u will be slow as hell with that mediocre ball handling.

I don't know I guess we just have to wait and see what the best builds will be.

That no mid range game is definitely a problem, I might look at playmaking instead of athletic finisher, I believe I saw they had a respectable lay-up.

[fakeassc]

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If you play LDD (pure or hybrid) you're gonna need a team around you.

I also think 2K needs to make pure LDD more athletic. Right now, it feels like you're not versatile enough as a defender to actually lock down Playmakers.

[nyk_fatboy]

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7'3 340 post or athletic builds will destroy in the paint i felt like i was babying a point guard when i was pushing around joel embiid and he couldn't break me at all when he tried to make a move lol im guessing because of my big physical body. weight truly does matter, i could even push them backwards when boxing out on rebounds and clog up the paint giving them no chance at a rebound

i made another center about 295 i could still bully and was a little quicker but i didnt kill around the rim with the same ease as the bigger stronger guy.

i think pro-am you will see alot of those big guys and park will have alot of diversity

[Conspiculous]

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If you play LDD (pure or hybrid) you're gonna need a team around you.

I also think 2K needs to make pure LDD more athletic. Right now, it feels like you're not versatile enough as a defender to actually lock down Playmakers.

Don't always need a team around you. I understand this is 2k18, but I was a pure lockdown 6'6 SG and could score at will in multiple ways and I was dominating the 21 1v1v1 courts . Just depends on your skills.

And I played 2 preludes so far, one with pure LDD and one with LDD/Slasher and I felt very athletic and comfortable guarding my man , and also playing help defense.

[Conspiculous]

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F it. My player tonight will be a pure LDD.

I made a pure LDD and felt very well on both sides of the ball. Would like to know your thoughts and experience if you don't mind.

[ph33]

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I made a pure LDD and felt very well on both sides of the ball. Would like to know your thoughts and experience if you don't mind.

TBH, impossible to tell cause I couldn't upgrade it or do much.

I will say I was happy that my steal spamming was met with lots of foul calls. Just testing the waters lol.

Also, is there a place where we can see what kind of badges a secondary archetype gets?

I saw someone mention gold defensive stopper if defense is secondary. I find that hard to believe. I thought they'd cap it at silver or bronze. But if it's gold?

Yo a team full of primary on offense and secondary on defense....holy *@(#&!@( would that be awesome.

[The Gym Reaper]

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It seems like the golds will be a healthy mix of both types.

Some hybrids have up to 10 golds.