Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

[bdeezy89]

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I made a Primary Shot Creator/Secondary Finisher 6'3 SG and he's OP for his rating. I can dunk on people, hit 3's, rebound, block, & good handles. Only downside is that i'm short for my position and have no strength at all. I got a double double in every street game

[Caelumfang]

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It's settled, I'm making two players to see which one I like better: A Shot Creator/3-Point Shooter and a Shot Creator/Ballhandler. The SC/Ball mix feels like, once it levels up, you'll be able to cook the hell out of your defender.

[hanzsomehanz]

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I had the same build at 6'7. I was just getting pushed back and getting those backward stall animations constantly.

I went 6'4 180 Pure Playmaker PG. I was getting bodied the entire prelude every single person was just bullying me.


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I felt the same way as a 6ft6 193 PG - Playmaking Slasher

Any thoughts on why this might be?

Do we have to reach a certain height to weight proportion before we are considered physically competent?

I'm going to try a pure slasher build.

For observation purposes: KD is dunking impressively in the 2KU mode. I remember in 2k16 you also had to be at least 220 to be considered a Bruiser and you had to have like .950 (guessing here) On your weight to height (cm) ratio.

I felt very incapable if being an attacker with the 6ft6 193 build. I shot well and better than I expected but 6ft6 220 might be the way to go which is my 2K17 build.



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[sparkybob]

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I made a pure LDD and felt very well on both sides of the ball. Would like to know your thoughts and experience if you don't mind.

I can say as a LDD PF I felt too light to stop guys driving on me. I did get some blocks though so it wasn't all bad plus I liked my ability to switch to a guard on a PnR.

[Bandeazyy]

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Hmm thats weird..I made a 6'7 pf 230 max wingspan defender/passing and I was able to get stops and a couple blocks here and there. I really like the build im running with but might end up making him 6'9 just to see the difference in height will do

[hanzsomehanz]

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I like the potential of the Shot Creator 1, Slasher 2 build

I went 6ft6 220 PG.. still not triggering any dunks but ehh he's a 55.. made a swagger 3 from limitless off a Snatch back [emoji44]

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[Zvonimir Boban]

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TBH, impossible to tell cause I couldn't upgrade it or do much.

I will say I was happy that my steal spamming was met with lots of foul calls. Just testing the waters lol.

Also, is there a place where we can see what kind of badges a secondary archetype gets?

I saw someone mention gold defensive stopper if defense is secondary. I find that hard to believe. I thought they'd cap it at silver or bronze. But if it's gold?

Yo a team full of primary on offense and secondary on defense....holy *@(#&!@( would that be awesome.

Man, if that's true then they REALLY don't want anyone being a LDD.

[AndersKDL]

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Last year I used a shot creator and a post scorer for the most part. Tried a shot creating playmaker (PG) and a post scoring athletic finisher (C) and both were very underwhelming.

Tried a playmaking slasher (PG) and that build seems very exciting. Speed, ball handling, layups, dunks, good passing. I think I will try that out.

The only thing worrying me is the jumpshot. According to 2klabs, the 3-point for this build will be 70-75 and mid-range 68-77 depending on the build. Seemed a lot harder to score from deep with the playmaking slasher than with the shot creating playmaker. Everything else seemed a lot more efficient.

Strength seems important as well in situations where you are driving past your man. Too slim build seems to get bullied and pushed back a lot more this year. Will be difficult to find that perfect balance with speed, strength and height.

[franzis]

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Tried a couple of builds, SF play slasher and SF play post scorer.

They played very similar, but I was expecting that cause of low rating, and I was comfortable with both.

The post scorer if matched with a weak defender can be barely contained, also when driving and not just down the block.

The slasher was funny cause of the dunks (and one spectacular block, due the higher vertical I guess)

Let's see the badges before the final decision.

[derrtyRedd]

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Yes ! I could score in anyway. Thanks for the layup tip. I'll give one also. Mike Wang said pump fake fouls are back on jump shots. To do this pumpfake and press up on the RS while the defense is in the air . I went 6'8 230. What about you ?

Bro I was coming here to say the same two way shot creators are the wave this year. I made a Defending/Shot creating PF 6'11 235 lbs. I slide 3-5 and being able to move like a guard and and still be the height of a C is awesome. I can't wait to update dunk packages and see what dribble moves I can try

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[ph33]

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Man, if that's true then they REALLY don't want anyone being a LDD.

It's gotta be silver at max. I have a feeling my friend is full of it and doesn't know what he's talking about, lol

[Rockie_Fresh88]

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Bro I was coming here to say the same two way shot creators are the wave this year. I made a Defending/Shot creating PF 6'11 235 lbs. I slide 3-5 and being able to move like a guard and and still be the height of a C is awesome. I can't wait to update dunk packages and see what dribble moves I can try

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I'm about to the reset thing and try the defender / shot creator build at the same height and weight of my shot creator / defender build. I can't wait either.

[Rockie_Fresh88]

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It's gotta be silver at max. I have a feeling my friend is full of it and doesn't know what he's talking about, lol

I know for a fact on my shot creator/ Lockdown defensive stopper is silver. It's actually listed in my build. I'm trying the build again today but with defense as primary because I prefer to have defensive stopper gold.

[derrtyRedd]

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I'm about to the reset thing and try the defender / shot creator build at the same height and weight of my shot creator / defender build. I can't wait either.

I did that yesterday just so I could do my facescan then play lol but really because at first my team was trying to get me to male a SG or SF. I made a SF same archetypes but I didn't like it. I reset and went back to being a big, I gotta say that's my position. I naturally play better there

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[ph33]

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I know for a fact on my shot creator/ Lockdown defensive stopper is silver. It's actually listed in my build. I'm trying the build again today but with defense as primary because I prefer to have defensive stopper gold.

Just remember why you thought about making it secondary in the first place...