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  • Rockie_Fresh88
    Lockdown Defender
    • Oct 2011
    • 9621

    #526
    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

    I'm just waiting on Mike to respond with a Kawhi or Butler build . Even though I know the answer
    #1 Laker fan
    First Team Defense !!!

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    • jyoung
      Hall Of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 11132

      #527
      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

      Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
      I'm just waiting on Mike to respond with a Kawhi or Butler build . Even though I know the answer
      Kawhi = Lockdown Shot Creator
      Butler = Shot Creator Lockdown

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      • k2real
        Rookie
        • Sep 2016
        • 166

        #528
        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

        Originally posted by thedream2k16
        I will be a pure perimeter defender going for HOF defensive badge. Gonna love breaking peoples spirits when all of their offensive badges are worthless with me guarding them.


        But when you play good players/teams they will need some offense


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        • Conspiculous
          Rookie
          • Oct 2015
          • 246

          #529
          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

          In my opinion, defense means more than anything. Was a Lockdown in 2k17, staying a pure lockdown on 2k18. I did not struggle on offense once throughout the whole year with my lockdown. Not once. Yes, you your stats are gonna be lower in terms of shooting. But I'm gonna go with a SG LDD again because
          A. You have solid rebounding allowing you to grab offensive rebounds with a high vertical.
          B. Move on offense much quicker as your acceleration , speed are far better than others, allowing you to be more open on cuts.
          C. Them HOF badges are going to turn defense into offense as quick as possible.

          Another thing that affects shooting, is your jumpshot, badges, ratings, hotspots, probably offensive consistency and some of those other +1s. I took the time to Max all of those out, get every badge possible (51 I had) and get all my hotspots and I was very confident in my shooting as a LDD with 60 3pt.
          Last edited by Conspiculous; 09-06-2017, 08:25 PM.
          My Players:
          6'6 SG 94 Overall Slashing Defender
          6'5 SG 90 Overall Pure Sharpshooter
          6'8 SF 81 Overall Two-Way Slasher
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          • shawnydee
            Pro
            • Nov 2012
            • 839

            #530
            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

            if post/driving finishing gets brick wall, posterizer,lob city finisher and pick and roller as the 4 other gold badges 8 total(bruiser,drop step, up and under, relentless finisher) i might go with that.

            layup = pure post scorer
            dunks higher than pure post scorer
            rebound a little lower of pure post scorer
            higher speed than regular post scorer
            higher vertical than post scorer (helps with boards)
            strenght a little lower than post scorer
            post offense decent.

            or if post/glass gets hustle rebounder, put back king, posterizer, relentless finisher as the 4 other gold , 7 total.(up and under, post spin, drop step) might go with that

            layup little lower than pure post scorer
            dunks equals to pure post score
            rebounding higher than pure post scorer
            speed about the same as pure post scorer
            higher vertical than pure post scorer (about same level as post/driving finishing)
            strenght same
            post offense only lose 2 pts

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            • Rockie_Fresh88
              Lockdown Defender
              • Oct 2011
              • 9621

              #531
              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

              Originally posted by Conspiculous
              In my opinion, defense means more than anything. Was a Lockdown in 2k17, staying a pure lockdown on 2k18. I did not struggle on offense once throughout the whole year with my lockdown. Not once. Yes, you your stats are gonna be lower in terms of shooting. But I'm gonna go with a SG LDD again because
              A. You have solid rebounding allowing you to grab offensive rebounds with a high vertical.
              B. Move on offense much quicker as your acceleration , speed are far better than others, allowing you to be more open on cuts.
              C. Them HOF badges are going to turn defense into offense as quick as possible.

              Another thing that affects shooting, is your jumpshot, badges, ratings, hotspots, probably offensive consistency and some of those other +1s. I took the time to Max all of those out, get every badge possible (51 I had) and get all my hotspots and I was very confident in my shooting as a LDD with 60 3pt.
              Props man .just pointing out that your three will be much lower than a 60. You can't get every badge anymore . Hotspots aren't as strong .

              But you will shut people down . I don't play much park though like yourself .
              #1 Laker fan
              First Team Defense !!!

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              • bottledwaterfan25
                Rookie
                • Mar 2013
                • 272

                #532
                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                Originally posted by Zvonimir Boban
                I don't care. I shall make a pure LDD, spam the hell out of X against the kids in the park and then sit back and wait for the abusive messages to flood in from dribbling idiots who got kicked for bad teammate grades.

                I doubt I'm going with LDD as my first build this year; however, there certainly is a sick, twisted, pleasureable feeling from using a LDD when you know that you are literally breaking someone emotionally. Nothing feels quite the same as grading another player out when they thought they were a "dribble gawd", or holding someone who averages ~20 ppg or more in pro-am with their sharpshooter to going 1/13 fg and seeing them break, and give up, or rage quit.
                "I've missed more than 9,000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed." - Michael Jordan

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                • Conspiculous
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2015
                  • 246

                  #533
                  Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                  Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                  Props man .just pointing out that your three will be much lower than a 60. You can't get every badge anymore . Hotspots aren't as strong .

                  But you will shut people down . I don't play much park though like yourself .
                  Props to you as well. I browse these forums every few days and respect what you have to say Everytime I read it. I am gonna get in the lab, take some notes to compare LDD dual builds and decide what Im feeling. Regardless, Thanks for the insight.
                  My Players:
                  6'6 SG 94 Overall Slashing Defender
                  6'5 SG 90 Overall Pure Sharpshooter
                  6'8 SF 81 Overall Two-Way Slasher
                  Active Daily on 2K, I play 2s, 3s & Walk-on.
                  If you're active and would like to run Park or Walk-on Shoot me a PSN Message and we can get some games in.
                  PSN: Carrboys

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                  • Conspiculous
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2015
                    • 246

                    #534
                    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                    Originally posted by bottledwaterfan25
                    I doubt I'm going with LDD as my first build this year; however, there certainly is a sick, twisted, pleasureable feeling from using a LDD when you know that you are literally breaking someone emotionally. Nothing feels quite the same as grading another player out when they thought they were a "dribble gawd", or holding someone who averages ~20 ppg or more in pro-am with their sharpshooter to going 1/13 fg and seeing them break, and give up, or rage quit.
                    So Damm true.
                    My Players:
                    6'6 SG 94 Overall Slashing Defender
                    6'5 SG 90 Overall Pure Sharpshooter
                    6'8 SF 81 Overall Two-Way Slasher
                    Active Daily on 2K, I play 2s, 3s & Walk-on.
                    If you're active and would like to run Park or Walk-on Shoot me a PSN Message and we can get some games in.
                    PSN: Carrboys

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                    • Rockie_Fresh88
                      Lockdown Defender
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 9621

                      #535
                      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                      Originally posted by jyoung
                      Kawhi = Lockdown Shot Creator
                      Butler = Shot Creator Lockdown
                      Yeah I know lol kind of surprised he didn't mention lockdown as a secondary for young Mike . What do you think of the lockdown / shot creator caps ?

                      Originally posted by bottledwaterfan25
                      I doubt I'm going with LDD as my first build this year; however, there certainly is a sick, twisted, pleasureable feeling from using a LDD when you know that you are literally breaking someone emotionally. Nothing feels quite the same as grading another player out when they thought they were a "dribble gawd", or holding someone who averages ~20 ppg or more in pro-am with their sharpshooter to going 1/13 fg and seeing them break, and give up, or rage quit.
                      Best feeling in the world I hate dribble gawds
                      #1 Laker fan
                      First Team Defense !!!

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                      • shawnydee
                        Pro
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 839

                        #536
                        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                        Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                        Yeah I know lol kind of surprised he didn't mention lockdown as a secondary for young Mike . What do you think of the lockdown / shot creator caps ?



                        Best feeling in the world I hate dribble gawds
                        i just checked and seriously i think shot creator/defensing, defending/driving and finisher(Super athletic and strong) would be better than defending/shot creating. if you want above decent offense.
                        Last edited by shawnydee; 09-06-2017, 08:44 PM.

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                        • Zvonimir Boban
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 40

                          #537
                          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                          Originally posted by Conspiculous
                          In my opinion, defense means more than anything. Was a Lockdown in 2k17, staying a pure lockdown on 2k18.


                          Originally posted by bottledwaterfan25
                          I doubt I'm going with LDD as my first build this year; however, there certainly is a sick, twisted, pleasureable feeling from using a LDD when you know that you are literally breaking someone emotionally. Nothing feels quite the same as grading another player out when they thought they were a "dribble gawd", or holding someone who averages ~20 ppg or more in pro-am with their sharpshooter to going 1/13 fg and seeing them break, and give up, or rage quit.
                          Played a game of 21 in Rivet City with my PG LDD against a playmaker and a center, got both of them kicked because I stole the ball so often.

                          Of course I lost the game because I couldn't score against the CPU but I didn't care, it was worth it for the angry messages. Legit one of my proudest moments in almost 30 years of playing video games.

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                          • bottledwaterfan25
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 272

                            #538
                            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                            Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                            Yeah I know lol kind of surprised he didn't mention lockdown as a secondary for young Mike . What do you think of the lockdown / shot creator caps ?



                            Best feeling in the world I hate dribble gawds
                            Absolutely, I'm considering making a 3 and D SF/PF tweener, a la Shane Battier at some point this year for pro-am, won't be the same, obviously, in terms of defensive impact as a pure LDD, but hopefully the clamps will still remain!
                            "I've missed more than 9,000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed." - Michael Jordan

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                            • shawnydee
                              Pro
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 839

                              #539
                              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                              Originally posted by Zvonimir Boban




                              Played a game of 21 in Rivet City with my PG LDD against a playmaker and a center, got both of them kicked because I stole the ball so often.

                              Of course I lost the game because I couldn't score against the CPU but I didn't care, it was worth it for the angry messages. Legit one of my proudest moments in almost 30 years of playing video games.
                              lol when i used to play 21 with my 6'7 ldd i would post them up cause my strenght was high and i raised my post scoring..

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                              • Conspiculous
                                Rookie
                                • Oct 2015
                                • 246

                                #540
                                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                                After reviewing the NBA 2K18 estimated archetype attributes, My first build on prelude will be a SG 6'6 200 Max wingspan Driving & Finishing Defender. Primary: Lockdown Secondary: Slasher I'm thoroughly impressed with the comparison to a pure lock down. You are giving up 4 points on steals, lat quickness, strength and blocks and 3 HOF badges to get better ball handling, dunks, layups, while keeping everything else including 57 3pt. Only thing I lose out on is 3 other hof badges, while gaining a few extra badges for being a dual. Decisions..Decisions..
                                My Players:
                                6'6 SG 94 Overall Slashing Defender
                                6'5 SG 90 Overall Pure Sharpshooter
                                6'8 SF 81 Overall Two-Way Slasher
                                Active Daily on 2K, I play 2s, 3s & Walk-on.
                                If you're active and would like to run Park or Walk-on Shoot me a PSN Message and we can get some games in.
                                PSN: Carrboys

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