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  • Rockie_Fresh88
    Lockdown Defender
    • Oct 2011
    • 9621

    #556
    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

    Sometimes as a LDD in 2k17 the top pro am teams would literally use the Kawhi game plan on me. What I mean by that is they would isolate me away from the offense .

    Ex. 1.) Team had a point Foward at the point. He kept getting by my point guard teammate and dunking on him. 6'9 vs 6'3 in height. I switched onto him and ripped him 2 straight possessions. Forced the SG to be the ballhandler instead. Originally I was guarding a 6'10 LDD who then starting dunking on my 6'3 point guard teammate. It was a lose lose. I couldn't guard everybody.

    Ex 2) the Stretch PF I was guarding averaged 20 ppg. He tried me a few times but I contested every shot and forced misses. He tried me in the paint and failed. By the third quarter he decided to stay out in HOF limitless range territory. I couldn't leave him . He didn't even move on offense. Not even a cut.

    lol I had to tip my hat to those guys. Smart. But one problem we had as a team was a go to scorer. A shot maker. Pure buckets. We had 1 sharpshooter. The Playmaker is a pure pass first point. I will fill the void . That's why I'm going Shot creator primary and defense secondary to still force guys to isolate me lol.
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    • Zvonimir Boban
      Rookie
      • Aug 2009
      • 40

      #557
      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

      Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
      That's why I'm going Shot creator primary and defense secondary to still force guys to isolate me lol.
      Try to justify it all you like, we both know you've gone soft

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      • Antho_bdo
        Rookie
        • Sep 2017
        • 19

        #558
        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

        Slasher/Def like Mike ^^

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        • franzis
          MVP
          • Mar 2008
          • 1451

          #559
          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

          Damn!
          Seems that this year everybody in my pro-am team wants to be a playmaker-something in the backcourt e nobody wants to be a sharpshooter or a big.


          I'm starting thinking to a back-up build to my SF playmaking-post scorer (Magic style) as a sign of good will on my side.


          no way I'll be a sharposhooter (I suck at getting green releases), so I am thinking of a 6'8" PF post scorer-playmaking (CWebb style).


          Opinions/suggestions?

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          • ph33
            MVP
            • Oct 2014
            • 3261

            #560
            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

            Originally posted by franzis
            Hot spots are still in the game, but beluba said on twiter they'll be less effective than in 2k17
            Damn it. I never Really was down with hot zones in online play. Hot zones are realistic but everyone's will be red (or reset!)

            Originally posted by Housh123
            There is gonna be a lot of speed on the court in this 2k. I don't think people will be able to help themselves this year
            Speed is the new king of the league. I messed around with my max weight and height post scorer yesterday and decided I don't feel like a lumbering fatass this year, as much as I loved using that player.

            Also, if the OP could add this to the original post I think it'd help everybody so that we don't have to hunt the spread sheet down if we don't have it bookmarked.

            https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=853357277

            Yikes...a pure ldd looks so bad on offense lol. I think someone mentioned mid-range was nerfed and it seems that way
            Last edited by ph33; 09-07-2017, 08:23 AM.

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            • Clappington
              Pro
              • Sep 2013
              • 737

              #561
              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

              Originally posted by Caelumfang
              You know, I'm not even gonna lie, if nobody has over mid-to-low 70s 3-pointers in 18 besides Sharps, I'll probably be sagging off of everyone. You all hear '30%-34% three-point shooter', I hear '66%-70% chance of bricks and car parts being thrown at the rim.'

              I'll live with those odds. We'll see how this goes, lol.


              That's exactly what I'm thinking. And I'm taking a guess and say those percentages might be if someone is wide open. I'll take those odds all day long.


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              • Rockie_Fresh88
                Lockdown Defender
                • Oct 2011
                • 9621

                #562
                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                Originally posted by Zvonimir Boban
                Try to justify it all you like, we both know you've gone soft
                I have bro lol .
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                • de5m0n
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2015
                  • 996

                  #563
                  Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                  This game is supposed to be in esports this year right?

                  Why can't I see what badges im getting and what my stats will be before creating a player.

                  Games like dota 2 also have 100 characters to pick pick from and you know exactly what each one does and/or is capable of doing.

                  Picking blindfold doesnt make any sense.

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                  • franzis
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 1451

                    #564
                    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                    Originally posted by de5m0n
                    This game is supposed to be in esports this year right?

                    Why can't I see what badges im getting and what my stats will be before creating a player.

                    Games like dota 2 also have 100 characters to pick pick from and you know exactly what each one does and/or is capable of doing.

                    Picking blindfold doesnt make any sense.


                    Amen.


                    Better that they release/patch those info before the dayone.


                    Prelude to me will be almost useless since I won't spend a single VC for updating blindfold my build.

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                    • The Gym Reaper
                      Rookie
                      • Jan 2017
                      • 438

                      #565
                      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                      Originally posted by de5m0n
                      This game is supposed to be in esports this year right?

                      Why can't I see what badges im getting and what my stats will be before creating a player.

                      Games like dota 2 also have 100 characters to pick pick from and you know exactly what each one does and/or is capable of doing.

                      Picking blindfold doesnt make any sense.
                      I feel like it has to be somewhat intentional by 2K to prevent homogenization/cheesing.
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                      • ph33
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 3261

                        #566
                        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                        Originally posted by franzis
                        Amen.


                        Better that they release/patch those info before the dayone.


                        Prelude to me will be almost useless since I won't spend a single VC for updating blindfold my build.
                        Didn't really hit me till now, but this makes me hope they have regular teams to play with in the Prelude. Because damn, this entire week is going to be spent with a 55-60 (Does anyone know the floor yet?) OVR player, and it's not like we can make them again to try out other archetypes because the archetype for a 55 OVR is a BUM.

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                        • de5m0n
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2015
                          • 996

                          #567
                          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                          Originally posted by The Gym Reaper
                          I feel like it has to be somewhat intentional by 2K to prevent homogenization/cheesing.
                          It is intentional, they want you to experiment with builds which only leads you to buy VC since it will take you ages to earn it for free.

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                          • The Gym Reaper
                            Rookie
                            • Jan 2017
                            • 438

                            #568
                            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                            Originally posted by de5m0n
                            It is intentional, they want you to experiment with builds which only leads you to buy VC since it will take you ages to earn it for free.
                            They have to learn they can't beat "the community". Inside of a week someone will have crunched the numbers and figured out the "best build". We already have multiple spreadsheets just based on screenshots and the prelude isn't out.
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                            • de5m0n
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2015
                              • 996

                              #569
                              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                              Originally posted by The Gym Reaper
                              They have to learn they can't beat "the community". Inside of a week someone will have crunched the numbers and figured out the "best build". We already have multiple spreadsheets just based on screenshots and the prelude isn't out.
                              They can't beat us but they sure are trying their hardest to make it difficult for us haha.

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                              • sk8board
                                Pro
                                • Nov 2016
                                • 572

                                #570
                                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                                Originally posted by The Gym Reaper
                                I feel like it has to be somewhat intentional by 2K to prevent homogenization/cheesing.
                                Oh please, they want people to mess up their builds so they have to buy new ones and keep spending on new characters that are the new "cheese"

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