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  • sparkybob
    Rookie
    • Sep 2016
    • 78

    #481
    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

    Originally posted by CantGoBacktoTO
    Yea thats a dope 4 build. Lock it down against the bigs and still be able to cover the other teams best scorer. Hopefully you don't end up the 5 though.
    Yea for Park it should be solid because from my experience what Bigs did there were either set screens or stretch the floor and my build helps counter that to a point.

    For Pro AM when I was a big ish Paint Protector (7'1 280) I found that I really couldn't help protect the paint because any drive that I went to contest meant the other center is there for an easy dunk/offensive rebound. That I felt limited the effectiveness of my player.

    As a faster PF the idea is the other team's PF won't be a fat guy so you can show up on help defense more to protect the rim.

    Hopefully it works out as intended lol.

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    • Rockie_Fresh88
      Lockdown Defender
      • Oct 2011
      • 9621

      #482
      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

      Originally posted by sparkybob
      Yea for Park it should be solid because from my experience what Bigs did there were either set screens or stretch the floor and my build helps counter that to a point.

      For Pro AM when I was a big ish Paint Protector (7'1 280) I found that I really couldn't help protect the paint because any drive that I went to contest meant the other center is there for an easy dunk/offensive rebound. That I felt limited the effectiveness of my player.

      As a faster PF the idea is the other team's PF won't be a fat guy so you can show up on help defense more to protect the rim.

      Hopefully it works out as intended lol.
      I agree with this . One tip I learned though for future references : putting your hands up will help contest and secure the rebound. I know there are moments as a paint protector where we HAVE to jump but limiting it helped a lot.
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      • TheFinalEvent97
        MVP
        • Jul 2016
        • 1519

        #483
        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

        Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
        A lot of it depends on the build . I wouldn't go with an undersized Athletic finisher at center . But an undersized lockdown is a great build .
        Definitely agree with this having run my 6'10 200lbs PP at the 5 in team Pro Am (Elite 2)
        The last few weeks i made a 7'0 210lbs PP and a 6'11 205lbs AF looking for the highest vertical animations. The 6'11 is only slightly less athletic than the 6'10 whereas thre 7'0 is much slower, it seems like 6'11 is the tallest you can go while still being really athletic for the Center position.
        Last edited by TheFinalEvent97; 09-06-2017, 04:52 PM.

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        • sparkybob
          Rookie
          • Sep 2016
          • 78

          #484
          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

          Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
          I agree with this . One tip I learned though for future references : putting your hands up will help contest and secure the rebound. I know there are moments as a paint protector where we HAVE to jump but limiting it helped a lot.
          The worst is when the PG blows his defensive assignment and you step up to help which gives the center an easy dunk.

          Then they say you were the one who played bad defense

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          • shawnydee
            Pro
            • Nov 2012
            • 839

            #485
            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

            Originally posted by TheFinalEvent97
            Definitely agree with this having run my 6'10 200lbs PP at the 5 in team Pro Am (Elite 2)
            The last few weeks i made a 7'0 210lbs PP and a 6'11 205lbs AF looking for the highest vertical animations. The 6'11 is only slightly less athletic than the 6'10 whereas thre 7'0 is much slower, it seems like 6'11 is the tallest you can go while still being really athletic for the Center position.
            facts... the other day a 6'11 pf ldd had more rebounds than my 7'2 post scorer...

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            • The Gym Reaper
              Rookie
              • Jan 2017
              • 438

              #486
              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?
              86 Ball Control is where you hit the Level 3 dribbler tier. If that's what you consider "speed boosting" then there's your answer.
              — Mike Wang (@Beluba) September 6, 2017
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              Twitter: ThreatLevelNeon
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              • nyk_fatboy
                Pro
                • Dec 2013
                • 708

                #487
                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                Originally posted by CantGoBacktoTO
                Where my big men at ??.

                What builds are you dead set on making, or want to experiment with for the park/am?

                Are you going classic 7'3 or are you mixing it up again this year?

                I'm leaning DEF/Athletic this year but I'm concerned about it's effectiveness in the park/am.
                7'3 post/rebounder or rebounder/post if i dont like either build in the prelude im going pure glass cleaner.

                darkhorse post/defender but i hate giving up hustle rebounder.

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                • Caelumfang
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 1218

                  #488
                  Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                  Originally posted by The Gym Reaper
                  86 Ball Control is where you hit the Level 3 dribbler tier. If that's what you consider "speed boosting" then there's your answer.
                  — Mike Wang (@Beluba) September 6, 2017
                  This is all I needed to know, which will help me decide what I'm going to sub with my Shot Creator main. If I can't find a way to keep a decent amount of height while hitting 86, I'll be using Playmaker as my sub.

                  I'm still finding all these Shot Creator bandwagoners funny, considering they were talking trash about us in 17.

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                  • The Gym Reaper
                    Rookie
                    • Jan 2017
                    • 438

                    #489
                    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                    Originally posted by Caelumfang
                    This is all I needed to know, which will help me decide what I'm going to sub with my Shot Creator main.
                    I still need to know how height/weight factors in. Hopefully the prelude can tell me what I need to know...
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                    Twitter: ThreatLevelNeon
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                    • myathebee
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 256

                      #490
                      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                      Just learned there will be ''Diamond'' badges in the game....What...


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                      • Rockie_Fresh88
                        Lockdown Defender
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 9621

                        #491
                        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                        Originally posted by myathebee
                        Just learned there will be ''Diamond'' badges in the game....What...


                        A dev confirmed on twitter that badges will be raised one tier at 99. But does that include HOF ?
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                        • myathebee
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 256

                          #492
                          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                          Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                          A dev confirmed on twitter that badges will be raised one tier at 99. But does that include HOF ?
                          That's what I am wondering. They haven't confirmed anything higher than HOF...Yet.

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                          • Rockie_Fresh88
                            Lockdown Defender
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 9621

                            #493
                            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                            I recommend Beluba's twitter right now . Tweeted a few good things about builds.

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                            • illwill10
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 19827

                              #494
                              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                              Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                              A dev confirmed on twitter that badges will be raised one tier at 99. But does that include HOF ?
                              I saw in a video that it doesn't go past HOF. So, Golds or lower will go up 1. Diamond Badges will be CHEESE lol.

                              I'm not sure, but I don't think it goes past that

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                              • Caelumfang
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 1218

                                #495
                                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                                Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                                I recommend Beluba's twitter right now . Tweeted a few good things about builds.

                                https://mobile.twitter.com/Beluba?re...Ctwgr%5Eauthor




                                See, and it's tweets like this that piss me off. Like someone said, why even make it an archetype if they aren't allowed to have the same success as a standing shot of the same rating? That literally negates the purpose of the entire thing.

                                I'm starting to rethink this whole Shot Creator thing this year...
                                Last edited by Caelumfang; 09-06-2017, 06:55 PM.

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