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  • franzis
    MVP
    • Mar 2008
    • 1451

    #1981
    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

    Originally posted by NARFALICIOUS
    Thoughts on

    6'7 Pure Playmaker PG (more than 90 Ball control)
    vs
    6'10 Pure Point Forward SF (86 Ball control)
    ??


    Is the height mismatch worth it to be that tall?

    Not looking to be a dribble god but looking to be a distributor /primary ball handler in Park.

    My other builds are:
    6'5 Two Way Slasher
    7'3 Pure Rim Protector
    6'4 Sharpshooting Shot Creator
    Height doesn't really matter too much if you just want to distribute the ball
    On the opposite it will slow you down on the fast break and transition

    I'd suggest to make taller players only if you are going to exploit the extra lenght.

    And btw I think that a pure point is pretty much wasted at the park
    It's more a pro am build

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    • franzis
      MVP
      • Mar 2008
      • 1451

      #1982
      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

      Originally posted by chiefpoppasquat
      The point guard for my pro am team wants to play with his big at times so I told him I’d create a point to switch with him when needed. Need advice from other points out there.

      Considering listing primary first

      Primary shot creator/playmaker
      Primary slasher/playmaker
      Primary playmaker/shot creator
      Primary playmaker/defender
      Also thought about primary shot creator/slasher

      Any advice from vet pg out there. I’m not concerned about all the dribbles I like to use pick in rolls. I just wanna be able to make every pass needed from a point. Not looking for tons of points.
      What are the archetypes of your pro am teammates?

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      • chiefpoppasquat
        Rookie
        • Jun 2017
        • 51

        #1983
        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

        Originally posted by franzis
        What are the archetypes of your pro am teammates?
        Have sharp/shotcrwator sg
        Shot creator/sharp sg
        Playmaking/lockdown sf
        Rebounder/rimprotecor c
        Shot creator/athletic finisher pf
        Slasher/shot creator sf
        Slasher/shotcreator sg
        Pure glass cleaner c
        Pure sharp sg

        That’s the main people I play with depending on who’s on and what not the other
        point I will relieve from time to time is shot creator/play maker I also considered making 6’7 pure playmaker

        Ps all primary’s are second like 2k labels.

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        • chiefpoppasquat
          Rookie
          • Jun 2017
          • 51

          #1984
          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

          Also no intentions on using in park.

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          • franzis
            MVP
            • Mar 2008
            • 1451

            #1985
            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

            Originally posted by chiefpoppasquat
            Have sharp/shotcrwator sg
            Shot creator/sharp sg
            Playmaking/lockdown sf
            Rebounder/rimprotecor c
            Shot creator/athletic finisher pf
            Slasher/shot creator sf
            Slasher/shotcreator sg
            Pure glass cleaner c
            Pure sharp sg

            That’s the main people I play with depending on who’s on and what not the other
            point I will relieve from time to time is shot creator/play maker I also considered making 6’7 pure playmaker

            Ps all primary’s are second like 2k labels.
            Since you have already some creators, I would avoid to add another one

            To me the best fit would be a playmaker/sharp (in the order you prefer) if you think that you can have fun using him

            Pure point would be nice too

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            • chiefpoppasquat
              Rookie
              • Jun 2017
              • 51

              #1986
              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

              Considering pure point for simple fact I can make taller keep speed for transition defense. I’m gonna create both and play with out buying vc and see how I like.

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              • niccelroc
                Rookie
                • Oct 2016
                • 22

                #1987
                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                if i grind/cap break one more mf level and not get my ball handling to at least a 75 i'm gonna lose my mind


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                • Rockie_Fresh88
                  Lockdown Defender
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 9621

                  #1988
                  Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                  Originally posted by niccelroc
                  if i grind/cap break one more mf level and not get my ball handling to at least a 75 i'm gonna lose my mind


                  Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
                  Bro tell me about . I’m a 91 and been stuck at 74 ball control since I was an 87 or 88. What’s worse I messaged a 92 Ovr of my same build and 92 doesn’t give you ball control either .
                  #1 Laker fan
                  First Team Defense !!!

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                  • cjacks17
                    Rookie
                    • Jun 2017
                    • 385

                    #1989
                    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                    Definitely down to play with you guys. I'll add up who sent me their PSN names.

                    I'll probably use my C two-way athletic finisher. I like to play at the elbow and be a pick and roll guy for the ball carries or for getting guys open.

                    Don't really care to be the focal point, but guys who can't read the pick and roll do drive me crazy.

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                    • niccelroc
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2016
                      • 22

                      #1990
                      Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                      Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                      Bro tell me about . I’m a 91 and been stuck at 74 ball control since I was an 87 or 88. What’s worse I messaged a 92 Ovr of my same build and 92 doesn’t give you ball control either .


                      sounds like a nightmare, i'm at 89 ovr (i should be a 90 but i haven't upgraded my remaining stamina to keep my tireless scorer activating at this sweet spot, it's currently a 93 i think) and if i got a go to a 93+ to get a 75, AND my max is a 78 imma f around and pay someone to grind it out for me [emoji23] i'm exaggerating but i might consider


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                      • chiefpoppasquat
                        Rookie
                        • Jun 2017
                        • 51

                        #1991
                        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                        Is there a thread for animations for certain archetypes? I’m wounder what would be good layup package for primary shot creator secondary defender small forward 6’9 270# any one that can direct me would be apprwcIted. Or if we wanna make suggestions in here when talking about builds as in animations to use with.

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                        • Rockie_Fresh88
                          Lockdown Defender
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 9621

                          #1992
                          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                          Originally posted by chiefpoppasquat
                          Is there a thread for animations for certain archetypes? I’m wounder what would be good layup package for primary shot creator secondary defender small forward 6’9 270# any one that can direct me would be apprwcIted. Or if we wanna make suggestions in here when talking about builds as in animations to use with.
                          I use swingman for my two way shot creator seen to be the best . How do you like your player being 6’9 ?
                          #1 Laker fan
                          First Team Defense !!!

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                          • chiefpoppasquat
                            Rookie
                            • Jun 2017
                            • 51

                            #1993
                            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                            6’9 is good for what I’m usinf for playing passing lanes sometimes playin the 4. I’m only 84 right now but streaked in the Park constantly guarding 7’3 centers only center that had way with me was the pure glass cleaner. Yea wasn’t sure what package would be good since gold tear dropper. I tried using tank didn’t like to much. Just switched to euro specialist but I may try the swing.

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                            • Rockie_Fresh88
                              Lockdown Defender
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 9621

                              #1994
                              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                              Originally posted by chiefpoppasquat
                              6’9 is good for what I’m usinf for playing passing lanes sometimes playin the 4. I’m only 84 right now but streaked in the Park constantly guarding 7’3 centers only center that had way with me was the pure glass cleaner. Yea wasn’t sure what package would be good since gold tear dropper. I tried using tank didn’t like to much. Just switched to euro specialist but I may try the swing.
                              I hated tank also . I tried floater specialist . The tear drops were ok but hated the layups. Swingman is fast on layups . But I’m not too crazy about the tear drop packages .
                              #1 Laker fan
                              First Team Defense !!!

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                              • Thetruth9012
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2013
                                • 1287

                                #1995
                                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                                Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                                I hated tank also . I tried floater specialist . The tear drops were ok but hated the layups. Swingman is fast on layups . But I’m not too crazy about the tear drop packages .
                                Try circus very good floater and ok layups.
                                2k18 fixes

                                Bigs can cover to much ground on defense(they are too fast)

                                Late contest on laups matter too much.

                                Random blocks doing pumpfakes.

                                Leaning shots for guys who have catch and shoot badge should be removed.

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