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  • garyraymond23
    Rookie
    • Sep 2015
    • 415

    #2041
    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

    Originally posted by julio852
    I tested it. The differences between max and min wingspan are about 2 points of 3pt, mid-range, and close I don't remember
    I don't understand why everyone doesn't go max wing span honestly.

    2 points in attributes isn't worth the cost of that extra length.

    Originally posted by julio852
    Not sure if everybody knows, but you can test any archetype very fast, just disconnect your internet on your device (ps4 or xbox) and start a new mycareer (will appear offline), just press yes, yes bla bla etc and create it. Then in the menu's option you can maximize yours attributes and see.
    You can only see until your limit of cap breaker.
    That's just a massive waste of time lol and you won't even be able to see the most important ones until you level up.

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    • julio852
      Rookie
      • Sep 2017
      • 82

      #2042
      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

      Originally posted by garyraymond23
      I don't understand why everyone doesn't go max wing span honestly.

      2 points in attributes isn't worth the cost of that extra length.



      That's just a massive waste of time lol and you won't even be able to see the most important ones until you level up.
      yes, max wing span is very necessary


      Isn't really. it's very very fast because there is no cutscenes, it takes 2-3 minutes lol and you can see until for example lvl 85.. before any cap breaker. You don't have to play mycareer

      I think it's better than website for attributes etc because you can test with your height/weight etc, wing span that you choose.

      Last edited by julio852; 11-03-2017, 10:30 AM.

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      • georgepal
        Pro
        • Mar 2015
        • 514

        #2043
        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

        Already reached 90 with my slasher defender sf and love playing proam with this guy, however in the part it’s tough to score both versus big guys and small fast ones. Thinking of making a second player who can be able to score 3s however I don’t want to lose the speed and good defense I got with my slasher defender. What would you suggest? I’m more of a defense and team player guy, rarely dribble too much like people in the park do.

        Will a short defender sharpshooter SG be ok or is it a bad combination ?


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        • NARFALICIOUS
          Rookie
          • Oct 2013
          • 376

          #2044
          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

          Originally posted by garyraymond23
          I ran with a random group last night and hit 30-0 on the top red court (the one you can't squad on) and decided to call it before I lost lol

          1st guy: 6'8 shot creating slasher SF

          me: 6'11 shot creating post scorer PF

          3rd guy: 7'3 Pure Rim Protector

          30-0, was a pretty epic run. Our 24th or so game, we won by a score of 22-0 vs a couple 90s overall lol

          I was getting matched up vs the middle guys, so you know, the 6'4 - 6'8 PG/SG/SF and I was averaging 16 ppg lol it was absurdly fun. I may try running this shot creating post scorer at the middle position, rather than playing him as the lone big from now on.

          Point I wanted to make was, I have severely underrated a Pure Rim Protector. This dude was the epitome of a defensive anchor .. averaged nearly 5 bpg in these games, consistently grabbed boards, alter every single drive, grabbed several offensive rebounds too, set perfect screens or left the paint when needed, I was very impressed - wish I remembered his PS4 name lol
          Your length with 3 6'8+ guys, good IQ, and selflessness. Rim protectors get very poor scoring attributes so you know the dude was probably a good team player since he made an archetype he knows couldn't score a lot.

          If you or anyone wanna run and streak, my record sucks playing with randoms who ball hog and I only streak when I get good team mates.
          (i.e. I'm not good at carrying)

          81-136

          I have an
          81 Pure rim protector 7'3 - 300lb C - Gold rim protector, silver def stopper
          72 pure sharpshooter 6'10 min weight SF Gold Limitless range, silver Catch and shoot, bronze deep range deadeye
          85 slasher/defender 6'5 min weight PG - lots of good badges
          81 shot creator/sharpshooter 6'4 min weight PG - working on silver badges.

          I also have a 7'0 post scorer/shot creator, average weight that I haven't started yet but can if needed.
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          • jyoung
            Hall Of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 11132

            #2045
            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

            I don't understand why everyone doesn't go max wing span honestly.

            2 points in attributes isn't worth the cost of that extra length.
            If the shooting in 2K18 is based on the same rating thresholds as 2K17, then the difference between a 79 vs. an 80 and an 89 vs. a 90 should still be pretty significant in terms of green rate.

            I would assume that those thresholds still exist, since 2K18 seems to have a hard cap in place that prevents pure playmakers from going past a 79 three point rating, regardless of how short their wingspan is.

            But if you're talking about the difference between a 76 to 79 rating, or an 86 to 89 rating, then yeah, there wasn't much of a difference in those ranges for 2K17. It was the thresholds of 80 and 90 that caused a huge spike in green rates last year.
            Last edited by jyoung; 11-03-2017, 04:29 PM.

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            • bar_burry
              Rookie
              • Nov 2015
              • 65

              #2046
              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

              Originally posted by georgepal
              Already reached 90 with my slasher defender sf and love playing proam with this guy, however in the part it’s tough to score both versus big guys and small fast ones. Thinking of making a second player who can be able to score 3s however I don’t want to lose the speed and good defense I got with my slasher defender. What would you suggest? I’m more of a defense and team player guy, rarely dribble too much like people in the park do.

              Will a short defender sharpshooter SG be ok or is it a bad combination ?


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              If you know your shot it's a very underrated build and you will retain most of your athleticism since your defense primary.

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              • hanzsomehanz
                MVP
                • Oct 2009
                • 3275

                #2047
                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                Originally posted by garyraymond23
                I ran with a random group last night and hit 30-0 on the top red court (the one you can't squad on) and decided to call it before I lost lol

                1st guy: 6'8 shot creating slasher SF

                me: 6'11 shot creating post scorer PF

                3rd guy: 7'3 Pure Rim Protector

                30-0, was a pretty epic run. Our 24th or so game, we won by a score of 22-0 vs a couple 90s overall lol

                Point I wanted to make was, I have severely underrated a Pure Rim Protector. [...] wish I remembered his PS4 name lol
                You gotta befriend these types of randoms lol they are worth keeping

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                how could I lose? im playing by my own rules..

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                • chiefpoppasquat
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2017
                  • 51

                  #2048
                  Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                  I been playing a lot of power forward lately. Main build is primary finisher secondary shot creator. I wanna make second build for a certain line up I play with primary defender what’s best secondary to go with defender? I considered pure but thinking about post scorer or play maker

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                  • Rockie_Fresh88
                    Lockdown Defender
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 9621

                    #2049
                    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                    Originally posted by chiefpoppasquat
                    I been playing a lot of power forward lately. Main build is primary finisher secondary shot creator. I wanna make second build for a certain line up I play with primary defender what’s best secondary to go with defender? I considered pure but thinking about post scorer or play maker
                    With def primary at the 4 I like rebounding , sharpshooting , or Slashing.
                    #1 Laker fan
                    First Team Defense !!!

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                    • Thetruth9012
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 1287

                      #2050
                      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                      Originally posted by julio852
                      I tested it. The differences between max and min wingspan are about 2 points of 3pt, mid-range, and close I don't remember
                      Not really sharpshooting playmaker on default have 84 3p with minimal wingspan he still have 84 3p

                      There is barrier with some builds you cant cross

                      Wysłane z mojego LG-H525n przy użyciu Tapatalka
                      2k18 fixes

                      Bigs can cover to much ground on defense(they are too fast)

                      Late contest on laups matter too much.

                      Random blocks doing pumpfakes.

                      Leaning shots for guys who have catch and shoot badge should be removed.

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                      • luca3113
                        Rookie
                        • Mar 2014
                        • 36

                        #2051
                        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                        Originally posted by chiefpoppasquat
                        I been playing a lot of power forward lately. Main build is primary finisher secondary shot creator. I wanna make second build for a certain line up I play with primary defender what’s best secondary to go with defender? I considered pure but thinking about post scorer or play maker
                        How is that build working out for you?

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                        • chiefpoppasquat
                          Rookie
                          • Jun 2017
                          • 51

                          #2052
                          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                          I really like primary finisher secondary shot creator at the 4 once I get my mid range cap breaker I feel I’ll be more deadly bc it will put me over 80 mid range. I made 6’10 and biggest problem o face is going against all the 7’3 340 monsters. At times I wish I would’ve went max height but really 2k just needs to fix speed situation. 7’3 guys are just ast fast as me when I know there speed rating. Debating whether I wanna create a sf to play the 4 or a center to play the 4. As a second option. And either defending primary or playmaking secondary with other acrhtypes. Defending just to help in paint plus I like the def badges or playmaking just to make extra pass to shooters. For most part I can position myself to get rebounds now except against pure glass cleaners when it’s like a vacuum on the ball no matter where they at

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                          • chiefpoppasquat
                            Rookie
                            • Jun 2017
                            • 51

                            #2053
                            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                            Biggest thing for me going forward is to make a forward that can effectively play 3 or 4 or 4 or 5. Gotta be able to play to positions to fit with any team I play with

                            By the the way I’m on PS4. I have 2 others i consistently play with ones a pg and one sg or sf sharp shooter. If any one looking for people to play pro am with. We have a team. Just not locked in members yet.

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                            • Rockie_Fresh88
                              Lockdown Defender
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 9621

                              #2054
                              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                              Thinking about making a build similar to Blake or Ben Simmons . Not my main but just a fun build for walk on . Athletic /Playmaker PF 6’11. Not sure yet though . Maybe even athletic / Shot Creator
                              Last edited by Rockie_Fresh88; 11-05-2017, 11:44 AM.
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                              • ryocoola31
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2016
                                • 135

                                #2055
                                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                                Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                                Thinking about making a build similar to Blake or Ben Simmons . Not my main but just a fun build for walk on . Athletic /Playmaker PF 6’11. Not sure yet though . Maybe even athletic / Shot Creator
                                Blake builds sounds right. Definitely athletic/playmaker. He is good passer and has some handles. I would just make a sf if you want Ben Simmons and make the primary playmaker.

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