Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

[Bandeazyy]

Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

Catch and shoot is silver. And yup, sharpshooting defender is what 2k calls it for defense primary, sharp secondary.

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Gotcha. Hows the shooting on that build? I was thinking of trying out a defense primary build during the prelude but damn...did they do the lockdown wrong this year...

I remember running into a 6'10 defending sharp(?) Whatever is sharp primary, defense secondary is called and we ended up losing that game 23-20. That game made me realize how easy it was for him on the offensive end while I had to work for tough twos. I honestly feel like having defense as your secondary is one of the best possible archetype you can pair with though. The badges helps a ton even for silver. Im lucky I usually run with a 6'7 playmaking defender(?), and a 7'2 athletic defender(?) and its pretty funny watching one quit after another when we go on 12-0 runs.


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[PLPGBoy]

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Gotcha. Hows the shooting on that build? I was thinking of trying out a defense primary build during the prelude but damn...did they do the lockdown wrong this year...

I remember running into a 6'10 defending sharp(?) Whatever is sharp primary, defense secondary is called and we ended up losing that game 23-20. That game made me realize how easy it was for him on the offensive end while I had to work for tough twos. I honestly feel like having defense as your secondary is one of the best possible archetype you can pair with though. The badges helps a ton even for silver. Im lucky I usually run with a 6'7 playmaking defender(?), and a 7'2 athletic defender(?) and its pretty funny watching one quit after another when we go on 12-0 runs.


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The shooting is fine. In the 70s for mid range and 3s. I figured I could roll with it cuz the lockdown guy I had last year had his 3s in the 60s, but could still hit with the badges. I actually thought about making a defender/shot creator build the 1st time around, but I wanted my 3s to be a little higher. I think this new build will work out better cuz since we can't even put the difficulty on rookie in mycareer to get badges easier, I need as much of an offensive boost as I can get.

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[garyraymond23]

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Yeaa my bad im at work so I probably read it too fast lol

But I'd say if someone was thinking of primary Slasher and secondary shot creator to just switch em around..

I swear if people didn't see me shoot they'd assume I'ma dunker cuz I got all the finisher badges and I dunk on centers easily.

Guess it just depends what badges really mean more to you

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lol all good, the way people state their archetypes on here confuses the hell out of me sometimes. People list their primary 1st but 2k, when they list your actual archetype, lists your secondary first so it's a mess sometimes.

Any shot creator primary build IMO is going to be an offensive / ISO / 1v1 type of build.

I actually like the slashing primary / shot creating secondary build a lot because I know I can hit my teammate that's this build every time for an open mid range jumper that he can hit or a driving dunk / alley.

When we pair this build with a shooter, it's been essentially unstoppable.

I'll beat my guy off the dribble every time. If they don't collapse, it's an easy bucket. If they do collapse, I'll kick it to the corner for an open 3 or hit the driving slasher for an easy look.

[HowDareI]

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lol all good, the way people state their archetypes on here confuses the hell out of me sometimes. People list their primary 1st but 2k, when they list your actual archetype, lists your secondary first so it's a mess sometimes.

Any shot creator primary build IMO is going to be an offensive / ISO / 1v1 type of build.

I actually like the slashing primary / shot creating secondary build a lot because I know I can hit my teammate that's this build every time for an open mid range jumper that he can hit or a driving dunk / alley.

When we pair this build with a shooter, it's been essentially unstoppable.

I'll beat my guy off the dribble every time. If they don't collapse, it's an easy bucket. If they do collapse, I'll kick it to the corner for an open 3 or hit the driving slasher for an easy look.

I noticed that too. I guess from now on I'll just say shot creator primary, secondary slasher lol

I've noticed this year tho that I can be just as effective as a catch and shoot player than a pure iso player.
My friend plays point like Chris Paul where he can score but he's really looking for 20 assists over 20 points. So a lot of times I'm scoring off of off ball movement either cutting to the rim as a slasher or i like to cut baseline to the corner and either catch and shoot with my badge triggering or pump fake and step into a mid.

But like last year my shot creator wasnt as good a shooter if I was standing still..like I had to take a dribble before. I'm glad they fixed that cuz it never made sense to me regardless of what type of player I am lol

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[Thunderhorse]

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I have a shot creating playmaker and his open shooting is pretty much abysmal.

I'm in this bad place where I'm not sure if my archetype just isn't meant to shoot, or if I'm just really bad at the game.

Yesterday I played in two walk-on games where a CPU perimeter defender went 3/3 behind the arc, followed by a slashing playmaker that went 3/4. I shot somewhere between 20-30% in these same games with an archetype I would perceive to have better shooting ability.

[de5m0n]

Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

I have a shot creating playmaker and his open shooting is pretty much abysmal.

I'm in this bad place where I'm not sure if my archetype just isn't meant to shoot, or if I'm just really bad at the game.

Yesterday I played in two walk-on games where a CPU perimeter defender went 3/3 behind the arc, followed by a slashing playmaker that went 3/4. I shot somewhere between 20-30% in these same games with an archetype I would perceive to have better shooting ability.

I think you need to take a look at your jumpshot and/or get better at shooting.

your archetype should be very good mid range shooter an passable 3 point shot.

[Thunderhorse]

Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

I think you need to take a look at your jumpshot and/or get better at shooting.

your archetype should be very good mid range shooter an passable 3 point shot.

83 open shot midrange,

I feel the same.

[k2real]

Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

I have a shot creating playmaker and his open shooting is pretty much abysmal.



I'm in this bad place where I'm not sure if my archetype just isn't meant to shoot, or if I'm just really bad at the game.



Yesterday I played in two walk-on games where a CPU perimeter defender went 3/3 behind the arc, followed by a slashing playmaker that went 3/4. I shot somewhere between 20-30% in these same games with an archetype I would perceive to have better shooting ability.

Keep testing out jumpshots


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[Bandeazyy]

Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

Try kd base or lillard, shot 1 curry, klay shot 2. 80/20 blend, its a real easy shot to learn since pretty much you release the shot as soon as you see the wrist flick from steph's shot.


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[nba2kpdx]

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83 open shot midrange,

I feel the same.

83 is more than enough for green beans, as long as you have your jumper down (it took me about 5 custom jumpers to settle on a good one).

My shot-creating slasher has slightly lower ratings but is money from mid-range.

[Chas3]

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I was wondering how fast the playmaking slasher build felt. I saw there's 99 speed for a 6'4 point guard but only 83 speed with ball. Like wut

Also, for the slashing shot creator, how is finishing at the rim?

[chiefpoppasquat]

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The point guard for my pro am team wants to play with his big at times so I told him I’d create a point to switch with him when needed. Need advice from other points out there.

Considering listing primary first

Primary shot creator/playmaker
Primary slasher/playmaker
Primary playmaker/shot creator
Primary playmaker/defender
Also thought about primary shot creator/slasher

Any advice from vet pg out there. I’m not concerned about all the dribbles I like to use pick in rolls. I just wanna be able to make every pass needed from a point. Not looking for tons of points.

[bar_burry]

Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

The point guard for my pro am team wants to play with his big at times so I told him I’d create a point to switch with him when needed. Need advice from other points out there.

Considering listing primary first

Primary shot creator/playmaker
Primary slasher/playmaker
Primary playmaker/shot creator
Primary playmaker/defender
Also thought about primary shot creator/slasher

Any advice from vet pg out there. I’m not concerned about all the dribbles I like to use pick in rolls. I just wanna be able to make every pass needed from a point. Not looking for tons of points.

I would recommend primary playmaking secondary shot creator. The pg on my team has that build and he can score anywhere on the court at anytime and he runs offense very efficiently plus gold dimer helps. How you would do with any pg build is 100% user dependent. But regardless whatever you do if you will be running pg make playmaking primary it will help quite a bit as far as getting around the court with elite ball handling and passing.

[NARFALICIOUS]

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Thoughts on

6'7 Pure Playmaker PG (more than 90 Ball control)
vs
6'10 Pure Point Forward SF (86 Ball control)
??


Is the height mismatch worth it to be that tall?

Not looking to be a dribble god but looking to be a distributor /primary ball handler in Park.

My other builds are:
6'5 Two Way Slasher
7'3 Pure Rim Protector
6'4 Sharpshooting Shot Creator

[chiefpoppasquat]

Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

I would recommend primary playmaking secondary shot creator. The pg on my team has that build and he can score anywhere on the court at anytime and he runs offense very efficiently plus gold dimer helps. How you would do with any pg build is 100% user dependent. But regardless whatever you do if you will be running pg make playmaking primary it will help quite a bit as far as getting around the court with elite ball handling and passing.

True very good point. I’m leaning towards shotcreating playmaker or sharp playmaker. And only reason I’m considering sharp is bc the small forward we play with at times is a point forward. So I wouldn’t have ball 100% of the time.