Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

[de5m0n]

Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

shot creating slasher IMO is only a good build (for park and probably Pro AM) if you have teammates that understand when/how to pass and utilize you to your strengths. It's really not the greatest ISO, 1v1 build, you need to find open space or be facilitated properly.

My little brother, always my park teammate, has dominated offensively on driving contact dunks / reverse layups.

For sure. My friend with this build gets easy 10 points each game because I find him at the right times. I'm still trying to make him return the favor because ima pure sharp so i hardly can get any open looks because his timing on the passes is subpar.

[BasketballfromRussia]

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shot creating slasher IMO is only a good build (for park and probably Pro AM) if you have teammates that understand when/how to pass and utilize you to your strengths. It's really not the greatest ISO, 1v1 build, you need to find open space or be facilitated properly.

My little brother, always my park teammate, has dominated offensively on driving contact dunks / reverse layups.

I'm running pg with my slashing shotcreator ( primary shotcreator) and its just nasty. I can literally RUN through my matchup if I see the lane behind him being open and posterize the incoming help nearly every time. I can hit nice floaters if I have to go middle and theres not enough room to poster. I have 85 ballcontroll atm but I'll get 86, don't exactly know when. I guess 93-95.
With the shooting being what it is right now I can green nearly every 3pt shot with my 74 3pt rating, but if I don't green it's not dropping too good. But I'm greening a lot of them so its ok for me. Actually I shoot 78% over 7 pro am team games I did.

Once I get 86 bc it will be even better. But from what I've seen so far the only builds that may be as efficient are a well played pure sharp under 6'5 with good screens or a pure playmaker with great shooters around him. But honestly I feel once I got the ballcontrol and if the shooting stays same as it is, the slashing sc is the best build all around.

[ph33]

Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

My friend has this archetype also SG.



Great against bad to mediocre opponents.



Not so much against good opponents but his shot is shaky so I guess if you have a good shot to go with the finishing then it could work.



I like my shooting guards to be able to shoot lol.

Funny enough, this arch shoots better than my playmaking sharp. For the most part, I’m a catch and shoot guy from 3 and I work for mid-range/drives. The other night I was at least 7/10 on threes lol (Off catch and shoot and open)

But yeah, I've come to realize that I have to have another ball handler/scorer next to me for best results. I'm not sure if that's an archetype or play style issue.

I wish I could tell you what this archetype is like against set teams/good opponents that you would find in Pro-AM...but...it doesn’t work for my crew 🤷🏻*♂️🤦🏻*♂️

[HowDareI]

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shot creating slasher IMO is only a good build (for park and probably Pro AM) if you have teammates that understand when/how to pass and utilize you to your strengths. It's really not the greatest ISO, 1v1 build, you need to find open space or be facilitated properly.

My little brother, always my park teammate, has dominated offensively on driving contact dunks / reverse layups.

Idk if I agree with all that.

Most builds besides a point or center need good teammates regardless.

But my SF is a shot creator slasher and I'm easily getting 20 a game in even walk ons. Don't play park but i used to so I know I could still score on there.

I'm just saying this build IMO is the ultimate iso build.
People overvalue dribbling. You don't need the elite packages to get open.
I can post up, hit 3s, hit mids, drive and finish with a dunk or layup, and even handle at point if I have to.

What don't you like about it? I feel like offensively I'm the one build that can do absolutely everything.

Just last night I scored 60 in a game, I caught fire and felt like Kobe.

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[de5m0n]

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Idk if I agree with all that.

Most builds besides a point or center need good teammates regardless.

But my SF is a shot creator slasher and I'm easily getting 20 a game in even walk ons. Don't play park but i used to so I know I could still score on there.

I'm just saying this build IMO is the ultimate iso build.
People overvalue dribbling. You don't need the elite packages to get open.
I can post up, hit 3s, hit mids, drive and finish with a dunk or layup, and even handle at point if I have to.

What don't you like about it? I feel like offensively I'm the one build that can do absolutely everything.

Just last night I scored 60 in a game, I caught fire and felt like Kobe.

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you are exaggerating like hell lol. This build is mediocre at 3s, slightly above average mid and very good finishing. Or you just playing a bunch of chumps all the time idk. OR you are just beastly god 2k player top5 draft pick for eleague lol.

[HowDareI]

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you are exaggerating like hell lol. This build is mediocre at 3s, slightly above average mid and very good finishing. Or you just playing a bunch of chumps all the time idk. OR you are just beastly god 2k player top5 draft pick for eleague lol.

How?

90 mid is not slightly above average..it's automatic greens. I got gold deadeye, gold difficult shots, gold tireless scorer...

My 3 is a 77..corner specialist..I can green them too and hit moving shots..I shoot above average from deep.

At 6'10 I have all 75s in the post so I can actually operate down there like melo.
All 75 rebounding.
75 defense.

Just fast enough to stay with smaller guys and strong enough to be down low as well.

The only people I can't defend are points and 7'3 rebounders.

I've played guys over 90 overall defenders and they can't stop this build. The only weakness I have is lateral quickness. I'll unlock pro dribbles and I already have every contact dunk animation.

I'm not saying I'm a God I'm just saying this build can do literally everything.

If I wasn't at work I'd show my pro am stats. I average 30 a game shooting 70% and 60 from deep.

Like you can disagree but I'm just saying as this build no one's made me rethink this or try and make a new character

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[Rockie_Fresh88]

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How?

90 mid is not slightly above average..it's automatic greens. I got gold deadeye, gold difficult shots, gold tireless scorer...

My 3 is a 77..corner specialist..I can green them too and hit moving shots..I shoot above average from deep.

At 6'10 I have all 75s in the post so I can actually operate down there like melo.
All 75 rebounding.
75 defense.

Just fast enough to stay with smaller guys and strong enough to be down low as well.

The only people I can't defend are points and 7'3 rebounders.

I've played guys over 90 overall defenders and they can't stop this build. The only weakness I have is lateral quickness. I'll unlock pro dribbles and I already have every contact dunk animation.

I'm not saying I'm a God I'm just saying this build can do literally everything.

If I wasn't at work I'd show my pro am stats. I average 30 a game shooting 70% and 60 from deep.

Like you can disagree but I'm just saying as this build no one's made me rethink this or try and make a new character

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Maybe he thought you meant Shot creating slasher which is slasher / Shot Creator

[HowDareI]

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Maybe he thought you meant Shot creating slasher which is slasher / Shot Creator

Maybe..I just know from how I play its the perfect build so I'll vouch for it all day lol

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[de5m0n]

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Maybe..I just know from how I play its the perfect build so I'll vouch for it all day lol

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sorry i thought u were slasher primary.

My bad.

[HowDareI]

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sorry i thought u were slasher primary.

My bad.

Lol it's cool...i know if I ever made a Slasher I wouldn't even worry about any shooting secondary I haven't seen anyone being successful with them yet

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[garyraymond23]

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For sure. My friend with this build gets easy 10 points each game because I find him at the right times. I'm still trying to make him return the favor because ima pure sharp so i hardly can get any open looks because his timing on the passes is subpar.

I'm running pg with my slashing shotcreator ( primary shotcreator) and its just nasty. I can literally RUN through my matchup if I see the lane behind him being open and posterize the incoming help nearly every time. I can hit nice floaters if I have to go middle and theres not enough room to poster. I have 85 ballcontroll atm but I'll get 86, don't exactly know when. I guess 93-95.
With the shooting being what it is right now I can green nearly every 3pt shot with my 74 3pt rating, but if I don't green it's not dropping too good. But I'm greening a lot of them so its ok for me. Actually I shoot 78% over 7 pro am team games I did.

Once I get 86 bc it will be even better. But from what I've seen so far the only builds that may be as efficient are a well played pure sharp under 6'5 with good screens or a pure playmaker with great shooters around him. But honestly I feel once I got the ballcontrol and if the shooting stays same as it is, the slashing sc is the best build all around.

I was mainly referring to the primary slasher / secondary shot creator so I won't comment on how your archetype is since I haven't tried it.

Those statistics seem incredibly useful offensively tho, especially ISO wise.

Idk if I agree with all that.

Most builds besides a point or center need good teammates regardless.

But my SF is a shot creator slasher and I'm easily getting 20 a game in even walk ons. Don't play park but i used to so I know I could still score on there.

I'm just saying this build IMO is the ultimate iso build.
People overvalue dribbling. You don't need the elite packages to get open.
I can post up, hit 3s, hit mids, drive and finish with a dunk or layup, and even handle at point if I have to.

What don't you like about it? I feel like offensively I'm the one build that can do absolutely everything.

Just last night I scored 60 in a game, I caught fire and felt like Kobe.

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Lol it's cool...i know if I ever made a Slasher I wouldn't even worry about any shooting secondary I haven't seen anyone being successful with them yet

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I believe you're referring to a shot creating primary when I was referring to a slashing primary, that may be the disconnect here I think?

If so, your build is very good offensively I would have to agree with ya, that's a solid ISO build.

[HowDareI]

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I was mainly referring to the primary slasher / secondary shot creator so I won't comment on how your archetype is since I haven't tried it.

Those statistics seem incredibly useful offensively tho, especially ISO wise.





I believe you're referring to a shot creating primary when I was referring to a slashing primary, that may be the disconnect here I think?

If so, your build is very good offensively I would have to agree with ya, that's a solid ISO build.

Yeaa my bad im at work so I probably read it too fast lol

But I'd say if someone was thinking of primary Slasher and secondary shot creator to just switch em around..

I swear if people didn't see me shoot they'd assume I'ma dunker cuz I got all the finisher badges and I dunk on centers easily.

Guess it just depends what badges really mean more to you

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[PLPGBoy]

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I actually made the SF variant for the SC/Lockdown. In terms of badges, I prefer the badges you get from SF even though Pg does get gold ankle breaker over bronze...that didnt bother me much since I dont tend to over dribble, more of a pass and move guy. I think it really depends on personal playstyle when it comes to which position you are more accustomed to. Pretty much you'll be good in everything but not great offensively which works for me since I like the options. One thing really dangerous about this build is the triple threat situations you can work off of around the mid range. I was fast and strong enough to blow by most people with the first step but also tall enough to just rise up and shoot (gold mid range deadeye needed.) Of course, you also got your step backs and spin jumpers you can use at the right time really makes it a headache for people trying to read you.

Defenisvely, you're going to be a beast....I was able to consistently guard the pick and roll without the need to switch. There were times where I would guard pure sharps and literally see them giving up the ball as soon I step up on them.
They can't blow past me because they would get the shoved back animation so no left right cheese allowed. Also, making him at 6'9 helps a lot on playing the passing lanes. I can't remember how many times I would get deflections into turnovers or just straight up lebron-esque intercepting the ball and tomahawking it on the other end on park. Most people don't see you playing the lanes. Overall, defensively its really where the build shines.

You are making me rethink the 6'8 sharpshooting defender I have. I might make your build at 259lbs cuz that is the lowest weight until your strength is 75. Luckily I didn't get too invested in my 1st guy. He's an 87 overall. I will miss having higher defense and the catch and shoot badge, but I'm always up for a new challenge.

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[Bandeazyy]

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You are making me rethink the 6'8 sharpshooting defender I have. I might make your build at 259lbs cuz that is the lowest weight until your strength is 75. Luckily I didn't get too invested in my 1st guy. He's an 87 overall. I will miss having the catch and shoot badge, though.

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Doesn't that build have catch and shoot on gold? Or did you mean defense primary sharp secondary?


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[PLPGBoy]

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Doesn't that build have catch and shoot on gold? Or did you mean defense primary sharp secondary?


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Catch and shoot is silver. And yup, sharpshooting defender is what 2k calls it for defense primary, sharp secondary.

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