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  • kdurantmvp
    Pro
    • Mar 2012
    • 527

    #706
    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

    Originally posted by ViolenceFight
    I never delved into it, but I think the reason for that was height/weight/Wingspan.

    Like, let's say 6'4 220 was your archetype baseline, but you went taller/skinnier and dropped your strength by 1 or 2. So instead of 60, your cap is 58.

    So, baseline you get say 13 bricks to go from 30 strength to 60. After adjustments, it's still 13 bricks, but it's now 30 to 58. In order to hit that cap you can't gain the same amount per brick.

    Although, I'd rather you change a few 2s into 1s, instead of a 1 into a zero so it doesn't look like you're getting fleeced

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    Great point but still bull****. Atleast put the zero upgrade in the beginning so I only spend 200 vc on it instead of 5k


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    • ViolenceFight
      MVP
      • Jun 2013
      • 1141

      #707
      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

      Originally posted by kdurantmvp
      Great point but still bull****. Atleast put the zero upgrade in the beginning so I only spend 200 vc on it instead of 5k


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      I agree. That fact just dawned on me as I posted. Its one of those "Why did I never put this together before?" things

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      • kdurantmvp
        Pro
        • Mar 2012
        • 527

        #708
        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

        2k is hiding the attributes for a reason. I'm telling you guys, something isn't right.


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        • ViolenceFight
          MVP
          • Jun 2013
          • 1141

          #709
          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

          Originally posted by EveretteWarren
          Soooo.... NOOOOOOW everybody want to be a shot creator now?
          They won't know how to use'm right though. Can already tell from the prelude, I'm going to be FN torching kids this year, sure you'll be doing the same

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          • kdurantmvp
            Pro
            • Mar 2012
            • 527

            #710
            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

            If 2k isn't going to let your overall carry over to new characters then they need to be as transparent as possible with these characters. Especially if they're serious about the e sports scene. Tell us everything we need to know about each archetype which is the min-max(before getting to 99) and the max- max(reaching 99) and all the badges that archetype can have.


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            • ZBoo50
              Rookie
              • Aug 2016
              • 264

              #711
              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

              Originally posted by kdurantmvp
              2k is hiding the attributes for a reason. I'm telling you guys, something isn't right.


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              Hoping it will be fixed with the New patch

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              • Tarum
                Rookie
                • Oct 2015
                • 71

                #712
                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                is anyone made lower weight(7'2 center 225 ibs) and lowest shoulder width? i know its prelude and diffuculty is not hard but with that combination i feel like post moves success(like drop step) and rebounding better than max shoulder withd and max weight(300 ibs)
                btw both of them post-defending centers

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                • Caelumfang
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 1218

                  #713
                  Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                  Originally posted by EveretteWarren
                  Soooo.... NOOOOOOW everybody want to be a shot creator now?
                  Now you see how I feel about it when I see everyone saying 'Oooh I'm going Shot Creator/Playmaker or SC/Sharp, and anything in-between. Kind of getting a bit annoyed, because now any one of us who was a SC in 17 are gonna get lumped in with the 'bandwagoners' and people who copy YouTube...

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                  • Rockie_Fresh88
                    Lockdown Defender
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 9621

                    #714
                    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                    I know Ima be one of those Shot Creator noobs . I've been practicing heavy tho in 2ku , making multiple builds , and shot creating on 2k17. @CaelumFang still watching tape of your 40 point game earlier this week lol
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                    • Caelumfang
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 1218

                      #715
                      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                      Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                      I know Ima be one of those Shot Creator noobs . I've been practicing heavy tho in 2ku , making multiple builds , and shot creating on 2k17. @CaelumFang still watching tape of your 40 point game earlier this week lol
                      Lol, nice.

                      It's really all about reading people's tendencies when they're on defense. Once you learn how a lot of people like to run at and/or overcommit on defense, you'll start to learn how to take the angles. One or two steps on the defense, and it's over for them. Hell, it's for those reasons why I can frustrate even Lockdowns (most I ever put up on a LDD was 34 on only three total missed shots).

                      My only bane was either people bringing their man to me, or really big players, because our speed with ball and ballhandling weren't enough to consistently get by them. For some dumb reason, you really couldn't blow by larger, slower players consistently, which should change in 2k18.

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                      • ViolenceFight
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 1141

                        #716
                        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                        Originally posted by Caelumfang
                        Lol, nice.

                        It's really all about reading people's tendencies when they're on defense. Once you learn how a lot of people like to run at and/or overcommit on defense, you'll start to learn how to take the angles. One or two steps on the defense, and it's over for them. Hell, it's for those reasons why I can frustrate even Lockdowns (most I ever put up on a LDD was 34 on only three total missed shots).

                        My only bane was either people bringing their man to me, or really big players, because our speed with ball and ballhandling weren't enough to consistently get by them. For some dumb reason, you really couldn't blow by larger, slower players consistently, which should change in 2k18.
                        This. It's how I lived as a Slasher last year. "This guy over-shades baseline, Middle penetration" or "He's seen this move X times already, Let's see what happens when I tack this on the tail end".

                        I can/could instantly tell when a guy was decent to good by the way he'd play D. Giving me a subset of playmaker skills when I ran slasher like a 6'6 draymond last year is ridiculous. If they do not change the way it currently feels, all the youtube chumps talking about "These duals give you speed boosting" while ignoring the substandard defense are going to get wrecked.

                        Anyone worth a damn can tell this is NOT 2k17. At all.

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                        • ph33
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 3261

                          #717
                          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                          Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                          I know Ima be one of those Shot Creator noobs . I've been practicing heavy tho in 2ku , making multiple builds , and shot creating on 2k17. @CaelumFang still watching tape of your 40 point game earlier this week lol
                          I was really bad at SC first but eventually you learn to just let it fly. I'm usually playmaker so it was kind of out of my DNA to take jackass shots lol

                          I think I just pressed too much when I'd get the ball and end up working my way into worse shots. Just find a spot and goooo

                          Where are cael's tapes?

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                          • shawnydee
                            Pro
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 839

                            #718
                            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                            Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                            lol I ended up trying a post scorer / defender PF instead
                            How did it go

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                            • Rockie_Fresh88
                              Lockdown Defender
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 9621

                              #719
                              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                              Originally posted by shawnydee
                              How did it go

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                              I liked the build a lot. I had an athletic finisher and this is much more of a halfcourt build . I could definitely see some David Robinson qualities.

                              Originally posted by ph33
                              I was really bad at SC first but eventually you learn to just let it fly. I'm usually playmaker so it was kind of out of my DNA to take jackass shots lol

                              I think I just pressed too much when I'd get the ball and end up working my way into worse shots. Just find a spot and goooo

                              Where are cael's tapes?
                              I recorded some footage of a few games we ran together .
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                              • myathebee
                                Rookie
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 256

                                #720
                                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                                I've only had the energy to build 2 players last year. playmaker and sharpshooter..I'm jumping on the Shot creator bandwagon. Ya'll look really good this year.

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