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  • Yesh2kdone
    Banned
    • Feb 2015
    • 1412

    #2176
    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

    Originally posted by garyraymond23
    I think I was 6'8 and 94 speed with ball - I tried to replicate Ben Simmons as closely as possible - this year that's seemingly impossible to do lol



    That's surprising, I'd think you'd have the opposite effect with the 6'5 99 contact dunk guy having much, much better success.

    Maybe 2k just made contact dunks less effective this year? That's my only guess



    Speed is still a problem in 2k. 7'3 340 lbs centers who have 30s in speed keep up with bigs and/or 6'10 SFs with 60+ speed in fast break scenarios.

    #2kLogic

    It's a massive issue in park, it makes all the low weight bigs pointless at times because their strength is incredibly lower and their speed is NOT noticeably faster as it should be.
    To be fair to 2k, they've cleaned up the contact dunk animations this year and they trigger far easier than they have done since the first patch of 2k15 nerfed them.

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    • garyraymond23
      Rookie
      • Sep 2015
      • 415

      #2177
      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

      Originally posted by Yesh2k
      To be fair to 2k, they've cleaned up the contact dunk animations this year and they trigger far easier than they have done since the first patch of 2k15 nerfed them.
      Agreed, I like it better this way.

      Problem is now, with park at least, it's live or die by the 3.

      I've had games where my team has gone 8/19 (all 3s by 1 guy so he could finally get gold deep range deadeye) and we obviously got a ton of offensive rebounds.

      and the opposing team went 10/10 on offense, honestly played very good defense as well (few shots we made were ridiculous).

      They lost. That has to be the most incredibly infuriating and demoralizing experience in park lol

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      • Yesh2kdone
        Banned
        • Feb 2015
        • 1412

        #2178
        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

        Originally posted by garyraymond23
        Agreed, I like it better this way.

        Problem is now, with park at least, it's live or die by the 3.

        I've had games where my team has gone 8/19 (all 3s by 1 guy so he could finally get gold deep range deadeye) and we obviously got a ton of offensive rebounds.

        and the opposing team went 10/10 on offense, honestly played very good defense as well (few shots we made were ridiculous).

        They lost. That has to be the most incredibly infuriating and demoralizing experience in park lol

        I gave up that mode early last year; just too repetitive. It's either guys trying to be Steph, or trying to be dribble gawds. Got old really quickly. It's a shame as I practically lived in park in 14/15/16.

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        • garyraymond23
          Rookie
          • Sep 2015
          • 415

          #2179
          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

          Originally posted by Yesh2k
          I gave up that mode early last year; just too repetitive. It's either guys trying to be Steph, or trying to be dribble gawds. Got old really quickly. It's a shame as I practically lived in park in 14/15/16.
          I always live in the park, I think I played 2,000 park games last year, about 500 Pro-AM games and a few seasons on my main guy alone.

          I still love the park, I primarily play with the same 2 guys anyway and we've done this for the past few years so we're used to it.

          I will admit though, playing in the park is similar to a game like, let's say, Ghost Recon.

          Incredibly fun when you play with your friends and you're talking in a party but it's just OK if you're playing with randoms and gets old/repetitive insanely quick.

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          • ClassicMan
            Rookie
            • Dec 2015
            • 344

            #2180
            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

            Originally posted by Nza
            Which mode? I find neighborhood games feel a lot different as a big than NBA and even pro am (so it's not just about latency). As a rim protecting big, the movement required to trigger a moving block attempt vs a standing block seems different in the neighborhood - I often do a standing block attempt when I was trying to do a moving one. Also I find the clipping and feel inside to be very different and usually glitchy at best. I guess in the neighborhood more than others 2K have to appease to all types of archetypes and probably bend the laws a bit to achieve certain outcomes.
            I have the same problem, in park i dominate on both sides of the court. Last night in team pro am i went against a 7'3 post scoring athletic 75ovr, dont remember his weight but i couldnt stop him for **** and usually i can find away to. My build is a 7'2 282 86 ovr slashing rebounder. I had more rebounds tho lol. I finished with 19 and 17 he finished with 29 and 14 i think. His team stopped passing him the ball and gave up. Cause they couldn't keep trading twos with 3's

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            • Rockie_Fresh88
              Lockdown Defender
              • Oct 2011
              • 9621

              #2181
              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

              Originally posted by Yesh2k
              I gave up that mode early last year; just too repetitive. It's either guys trying to be Steph, or trying to be dribble gawds. Got old really quickly. It's a shame as I practically lived in park in 14/15/16.
              Park was so fun in 14-16 . Feels dead this year though. Funny the dual archetypes make myplayer feel even MORE restricted than past years . But that’s probably just me.
              #1 Laker fan
              First Team Defense !!!

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              • Bandeazyy
                Rookie
                • Sep 2015
                • 207

                #2182
                Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                What's you guys psn? Most of the people I run with are already giving up this year or just burnt out from the grind lol. Would love to run with you guys on park/neighborhood. My psn is my username so feel free to add me.


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                • The Gym Reaper
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2017
                  • 438

                  #2183
                  Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                  Well, the game has been out for about 2 months. For those of you who made one archetype and stuck with it - did it turn out like you had hoped?

                  I feel like I finally broke the glass ceiling on my playmaker. I can shoot, pass, dribble, and defend 1-4. Last couple of weeks of Playground been pretty damn fun lowkey.

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                  ⛹🏽💀
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                  I see death around the corner [specialist].

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                  • jyoung
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 11132

                    #2184
                    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                    Originally posted by garyraymond23
                    I tried to replicate Ben Simmons as closely as possible - this year that's seemingly impossible to do lol
                    I'm only up to an 89 overall, but so far, I'm pretty satisfied with how my 6'10" playmaking slasher has turned out:

                    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/j6mZ4biz5ag" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                    The only problem with that build is finding four other teammates who can shoot the ball well enough to give you enough floor space to drive inside.

                    In real life, the 76ers surround Ben Simmons with shooters who can keep the paint open for Ben to work inside and run lots of two-man action with Joel Embiid.

                    In 2K18 Pro Am, 90% of centers are inside builds who just stand underneath the rim begging for the ball, blocking off any potential driving/cutting lanes until you either give them the ball or watch them get called for a three second violation, which in real time, is actually more like five or six seconds before 2K's refs finally blow their whistle.

                    So with that said, if anyone wants to be the Redick, Covington, Saric, and Embiid to compliment my Ben Simmons build in NBA 2K18 Pro Am, just send an Xbox Live message to gamertag jyoungAD
                    Last edited by jyoung; 11-19-2017, 07:39 AM.

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                    • Housh123
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 1173

                      #2185
                      Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                      Originally posted by garyraymond23
                      Yep, on PS4.



                      Ran with the same lineup again, went 10-0 then we all hopped off to head to VC management because we're greedy and wanted the VC.



                      Equipped the same trio introduction to taunt people.



                      Then went 13-0.



                      We're currently on a 53-0 streak in the park lol


                      I’ll second this. If you have a defending archetype you should try to find other players with defending archetypes and play with them

                      Yesterday i played against 3players with defending archetypes. Like a two way sharp, two way shot creator and a 2 way playmaker. My team literally could not pass. So many loose balls and they all played great D so every jumper was contested. Think i was the only dude that scored and that was because late in the game we finally realized that the only way to score was to go ISO with no screens


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                      Last edited by Housh123; 11-19-2017, 12:10 PM.

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                      • Housh123
                        Banned
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1173

                        #2186
                        Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                        Last time i posted in here i think i was talking about how OP the Playmaking Sharpshooter is as a center. That still holds true. It was so OP i got him to a 90 ovr and got bored.


                        So i made what i feel is the true Ben Simmons build and i have to tell you guys it may be the best small forward build. 6’ 10” Slashing point forward


                        Pros

                        Elite defense. You can defend positions 1-4 at an elite level with good stickwork. Defensive stopper goes to silver i think and blocks and steals are high. I get a lot of blocks with this guy. He’s also very fast. I can keep up with smaller PGs.

                        Ball handling is OP when you factor in he’s 6’ 10”

                        Rebounding is great. Iv been averaging 10 ppg 8 boards and 10 assists in the walk on with this guy

                        Dunking is amazing. Without the badge i catch damn near every oop thrown to me and i dunk on a lot of ppl

                        Cons

                        3pt shooting is inconsistent. I have my release MASTERED and it’s still hit or miss from 3. 3ball max out at 73 and you CAN green at 73 but if your playing with players without dimer your gonna be inconsistent

                        No other cons i can think of honestly

                        Final thought is just the defensive ceiling of this already OP build makes it a monster. It makes sense seeing it’s modeled after Ben Simmons and he’s destroying the league


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                        Last edited by Housh123; 11-19-2017, 12:11 PM.

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                        • Housh123
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1173

                          #2187
                          Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                          Originally posted by jyoung
                          I'm only up to an 89 overall, but so far, I'm pretty satisfied with how my 6'10" playmaking slasher has turned out:



                          The only problem with that build is finding four other teammates who can shoot the ball well enough to give you enough floor space to drive inside.

                          In real life, the 76ers surround Ben Simmons with shooters who can keep the paint open for Ben to work inside and run lots of two-man action with Joel Embiid.

                          In 2K18 Pro Am, 90% of centers are inside builds who just stand underneath the rim begging for the ball, blocking off any potential driving/cutting lanes until you either give them the ball or watch them get called for a three second violation, which in real time, is actually more like five or six seconds before 2K's refs finally blow their whistle.

                          So with that said, if anyone wants to be the Redick, Covington, Saric, and Embiid to compliment my Ben Simmons build in NBA 2K18 Pro Am, just send an Xbox Live message to gamertag jyoungAD


                          May have to add you and play with my Sharpshooter with you. I’m looking for tall playmakers to run with





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                          • hanzsomehanz
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 3275

                            #2188
                            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                            Originally posted by Housh123
                            May have to add you and play with my Sharpshooter with you. I’m looking for tall playmakers to run with





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                            Young is a great teammate

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                            how could I lose? im playing by my own rules..

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                            • Conspiculous
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2015
                              • 246

                              #2189
                              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                              Here is my 6'5 90 Overall Pure sharphooter Mixtape. Now I personally hate pure sharps. Having to guard someone from half-court is mind-boggling but it's 2K. When you're the pure sharp, having the ability to Make half-court shots in the park and shots from near logo in Pro-am is very fun. I'm not going to recommend anyone make a pure sharp, because my main player is a defensive player and I prefer defense over offense, but that's me. Anyways hope you enjoy!






                              Last edited by Conspiculous; 11-20-2017, 02:13 AM.
                              My Players:
                              6'6 SG 94 Overall Slashing Defender
                              6'5 SG 90 Overall Pure Sharpshooter
                              6'8 SF 81 Overall Two-Way Slasher
                              Active Daily on 2K, I play 2s, 3s & Walk-on.
                              If you're active and would like to run Park or Walk-on Shoot me a PSN Message and we can get some games in.
                              PSN: Carrboys

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                              • luca3113
                                Rookie
                                • Mar 2014
                                • 36

                                #2190
                                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                                Originally posted by jyoung
                                I'm only up to an 89 overall, but so far, I'm pretty satisfied with how my 6'10" playmaking slasher has turned out:
                                I'm seriously tempted at trying a build just like yours. Did you make him a SF or PF? Also, what wingspan and weight?

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