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  • ph33
    MVP
    • Oct 2014
    • 3261

    #2146
    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

    Originally posted by garyraymond23
    I still haven't seen anyone with HOF fast break lol I swear that's gotta be the hardest HOF badge, maybe Bruiser?

    Anyway, Rim Protector isn't too bad IMO, you can get a ton of "Good Shot Contest" during a game and a drill like, say, gauntlet Post D gets you roughly 3k points like you said.
    It has to be bruiser, because there's really no drill or thing you can do in game to get a lot of points. With OMFB you can at least spam the hell out of it in a game and a drill, takes longer but at least it's clear what it is. I see "bruiser" pop up all the time in a game and then I see how many points I got for it in a game and it's like 150.

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    • garyraymond23
      Rookie
      • Sep 2015
      • 415

      #2147
      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

      Originally posted by ph33
      It has to be bruiser, because there's really no drill or thing you can do in game to get a lot of points. With OMFB you can at least spam the hell out of it in a game and a drill, takes longer but at least it's clear what it is. I see "bruiser" pop up all the time in a game and then I see how many points I got for it in a game and it's like 150.
      You can do some drills for Bruiser and get 3,000 points though. Gauntlet perimeter D for example (or whatever the hell that drills called)

      The only drill I know of for Fast Break you can get like, less than 500 points for.

      I'd say fast break is by far the hardest IMO

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      • ph33
        MVP
        • Oct 2014
        • 3261

        #2148
        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

        Originally posted by garyraymond23
        You can do some drills for Bruiser and get 3,000 points though. Gauntlet perimeter D for example (or whatever the hell that drills called)

        The only drill I know of for Fast Break you can get like, less than 500 points for.

        I'd say fast break is by far the hardest IMO
        Ohhhh I did not know that

        ....got anything for glue hands? lol

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        • Vroman
          Pro
          • Aug 2014
          • 959

          #2149
          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

          Originally posted by garyraymond23
          You can do some drills for Bruiser and get 3,000 points though. Gauntlet perimeter D for example (or whatever the hell that drills called)

          The only drill I know of for Fast Break you can get like, less than 500 points for.

          I'd say fast break is by far the hardest IMO
          I've tried all available under "bruiser" i never get more than 1.2k points . And even getting that is inconsistent, sometime i just get no points at all for making contact stops.
          "wing" defense drill seemed to be most consistent giving me any progress , but still its very slow getting 500-1.2k points (occasionally none) , dont see myself getting to hof bruiser before 2k19 releases.
          Last edited by Vroman; 11-15-2017, 12:36 PM.

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          • Yesh2kdone
            Banned
            • Feb 2015
            • 1412

            #2150
            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

            Originally posted by garyraymond23
            You can do some drills for Bruiser and get 3,000 points though. Gauntlet perimeter D for example (or whatever the hell that drills called)

            The only drill I know of for Fast Break you can get like, less than 500 points for.

            I'd say fast break is by far the hardest IMO

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            • garyraymond23
              Rookie
              • Sep 2015
              • 415

              #2151
              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

              Originally posted by ph33
              Ohhhh I did not know that

              ....got anything for glue hands? lol
              lol unfortunately not, I wish I did .. don't have that badge on ANY guy maxed

              Originally posted by Vroman
              I've tried all available under "bruiser" i never get more than 1.2k points . And even getting that is inconsistent, sometime i just get no points at all for making contact stops.
              "wing" defense drill seemed to be most consistent giving me any progress , but still its very slow getting 500-1.2k points (occasionally none) , dont see myself getting to hof bruiser before 2k19 releases.
              Gauntlet defensive drill, the perimeter one I get anywhere from 2,000 minimum - maximum I've had is 4,000 points, that's my best suggestion. I'm sure there's other drills you could do this too.

              Immediately back up a little bit, then when they start running towards the hoop - run into them and force them to pick up their dribble / alter their dribble to the side.

              Originally posted by Yesh2k
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              • Bandeazyy
                Rookie
                • Sep 2015
                • 207

                #2152
                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                Got bored with the game lately and made a 6'8 defense (1) playmaking (2) build at pf. Took him to the park the other day with just bronze chase down and I was surprised how many blocks I was getting. I'm way faster than the bigs I was guarding so I could usually get the step and get position for offensive boards. Can't wait til I get the badges up to gold


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                • garyraymond23
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2015
                  • 415

                  #2153
                  Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                  Originally posted by Bandeazyy
                  Got bored with the game lately and made a 6'8 defense (1) playmaking (2) build at pf. Took him to the park the other day with just bronze chase down and I was surprised how many blocks I was getting. I'm way faster than the bigs I was guarding so I could usually get the step and get position for offensive boards. Can't wait til I get the badges up to gold


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                  I have this same exact build at 6'8, I'm just a SF lol it's one of my favorite builds

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                  • Yesh2kdone
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2015
                    • 1412

                    #2154
                    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                    Originally posted by garyraymond23
                    lol unfortunately not, I wish I did .. don't have that badge on ANY guy maxed



                    Gauntlet defensive drill, the perimeter one I get anywhere from 2,000 minimum - maximum I've had is 4,000 points, that's my best suggestion. I'm sure there's other drills you could do this too.

                    Immediately back up a little bit, then when they start running towards the hoop - run into them and force them to pick up their dribble / alter their dribble to the side.



                    Whatttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
                    I've had it for a long time. That practice in training is actually really useful. I always did a half spin into behind the back which would instantly take me clear of the cpu defender if I timed it right, then I'd do a double acrobatic layup/floater, so I was working on 2/3 badges at least every trip up the court.

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                    • Bandeazyy
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2015
                      • 207

                      #2155
                      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                      Originally posted by garyraymond23
                      I have this same exact build at 6'8, I'm just a SF lol it's one of my favorite builds


                      Nice! Rarely ever see this build, I've only ran into one on park. Any insights lol?


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                      • garyraymond23
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2015
                        • 415

                        #2156
                        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                        Originally posted by Yesh2k
                        I've had it for a long time. That practice in training is actually really useful. I always did a half spin into behind the back which would instantly take me clear of the cpu defender if I timed it right, then I'd do a double acrobatic layup/floater, so I was working on 2/3 badges at least every trip up the court.
                        That's still crazy, don't you only get like 450-500 points per drill for fast break assuming you get 5/5 on fast break points?

                        Like, do you purposely cherry pick lol or have you just played an insane amount of combined season/park/pro am games?

                        I'm baffled.

                        Originally posted by Bandeazyy
                        Nice! Rarely ever see this build, I've only ran into one on park. Any insights lol?


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                        Man, you can shut down ANY opponent in park, literally, any damn opponent. My guy is just ridiculous, I wish I made him 6'10 instead of 6'8 honestly.

                        He has to average 2-3 steals per game and 3-4 blocks per game it's nuts. Majority of my blocks are from playing help defense too.

                        My badges are perfect for the way I enjoy playing on this guy, which is a combination of defense and playmaking (my 2 favorite aspects)

                        GOLD:
                        Defensive Stopper
                        Pick Pocket
                        Chase Down Artist
                        Bruiser (nice addition when guarding bigs)

                        SILVER:
                        Pick Dodger
                        Dimer, P&R, Lob City Passer, Flashy
                        Rim Protector

                        Combine that with random clutch silver badges like, Break Starter, Putback King, Posterizer, One Man Fast Break etc. and it suits my style of play perfectly.

                        I've gone somewhere in the range of 300-50 record wise in the park with this build, majority of my losses coming from playing with idiotic randoms.

                        I usually look to make the extra pass rather than score, due to the scoring attributes being low and I have Silver Dimer anyway to boost their shot. Half my points are essentially from fast breaks if I had to guess. I just try and play lockdown defense, help when needed, then facilitate as a playmaker on offense.

                        It's worked great, I've gone on multiple 30 or 40+ win streaks with my usual squad on this guy.

                        I've really been switching between playing with my 6'8 playmaking defender SF and my 6'10 pure point forward guys, not sure which one I like better yet.

                        My shot creating post scorer PF is fun to play with still, unstoppable on offense, gotta give him a shout out too.

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                        • Yesh2kdone
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2015
                          • 1412

                          #2157
                          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                          Originally posted by garyraymond23
                          That's still crazy, don't you only get like 450-500 points per drill for fast break assuming you get 5/5 on fast break points?

                          Like, do you purposely cherry pick lol or have you just played an insane amount of combined season/park/pro am games?

                          I'm baffled.
                          .
                          I've just played a lot of career. I only play on HoF, so it's all earned legitimately; I'm in my 3rd season now and a 92 overall. I saw early on with the build that OMFB was going to be a problem badge so I did every available practice inc the juice +1 drill. In games that were blow outs (a lot), if ever I got a rebound/steal/FB opportunity, then I would often force things that weren't really there. The slidy crossover/behind the backs this year often provide a clearish lane if you can get past one dude, so it's not that bad.

                          My main issue is that I'm just bored with this guy now. I have all my badges maxed, and the grind between ranks is just too intense for me to want to keep going with him any longer. I wish we could sell our myplayers instead of T-shirts.

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                          • ryocoola31
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 135

                            #2158
                            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

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                            • ryocoola31
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2016
                              • 135

                              #2159
                              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                              Originally posted by garyraymond23
                              That's still crazy, don't you only get like 450-500 points per drill for fast break assuming you get 5/5 on fast break points?

                              Like, do you purposely cherry pick lol or have you just played an insane amount of combined season/park/pro am games?

                              I'm baffled.



                              Man, you can shut down ANY opponent in park, literally, any damn opponent. My guy is just ridiculous, I wish I made him 6'10 instead of 6'8 honestly.

                              He has to average 2-3 steals per game and 3-4 blocks per game it's nuts. Majority of my blocks are from playing help defense too.

                              My badges are perfect for the way I enjoy playing on this guy, which is a combination of defense and playmaking (my 2 favorite aspects)

                              GOLD:
                              Defensive Stopper
                              Pick Pocket
                              Chase Down Artist
                              Bruiser (nice addition when guarding bigs)

                              SILVER:
                              Pick Dodger
                              Dimer, P&R, Lob City Passer, Flashy
                              Rim Protector

                              Combine that with random clutch silver badges like, Break Starter, Putback King, Posterizer, One Man Fast Break etc. and it suits my style of play perfectly.

                              I've gone somewhere in the range of 300-50 record wise in the park with this build, majority of my losses coming from playing with idiotic randoms.

                              I usually look to make the extra pass rather than score, due to the scoring attributes being low and I have Silver Dimer anyway to boost their shot. Half my points are essentially from fast breaks if I had to guess. I just try and play lockdown defense, help when needed, then facilitate as a playmaker on offense.

                              It's worked great, I've gone on multiple 30 or 40+ win streaks with my usual squad on this guy.

                              I've really been switching between playing with my 6'8 playmaking defender SF and my 6'10 pure point forward guys, not sure which one I like better yet.

                              My shot creating post scorer PF is fun to play with still, unstoppable on offense, gotta give him a shout out too.
                              Hey what is lateral quickness and weight on your playmaking lockdown? Trying to figure how low is too low in terms of weight

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                              • Bandeazyy
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2015
                                • 207

                                #2160
                                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                                Originally posted by garyraymond23
                                Man, you can shut down ANY opponent in park, literally, any damn opponent. My guy is just ridiculous, I wish I made him 6'10 instead of 6'8 honestly.



                                He has to average 2-3 steals per game and 3-4 blocks per game it's nuts. Majority of my blocks are from playing help defense too.



                                My badges are perfect for the way I enjoy playing on this guy, which is a combination of defense and playmaking (my 2 favorite aspects)



                                GOLD:

                                Defensive Stopper

                                Pick Pocket

                                Chase Down Artist

                                Bruiser (nice addition when guarding bigs)



                                SILVER:

                                Pick Dodger

                                Dimer, P&R, Lob City Passer, Flashy

                                Rim Protector



                                Combine that with random clutch silver badges like, Break Starter, Putback King, Posterizer, One Man Fast Break etc. and it suits my style of play perfectly.



                                I've gone somewhere in the range of 300-50 record wise in the park with this build, majority of my losses coming from playing with idiotic randoms.



                                I usually look to make the extra pass rather than score, due to the scoring attributes being low and I have Silver Dimer anyway to boost their shot. Half my points are essentially from fast breaks if I had to guess. I just try and play lockdown defense, help when needed, then facilitate as a playmaker on offense.



                                It's worked great, I've gone on multiple 30 or 40+ win streaks with my usual squad on this guy.



                                I've really been switching between playing with my 6'8 playmaking defender SF and my 6'10 pure point forward guys, not sure which one I like better yet.



                                My shot creating post scorer PF is fun to play with still, unstoppable on offense, gotta give him a shout out too.

                                Damn, now you're making me regret on not making him 6'10 lol. The way you described your play style is pretty much the same as mine. Set screens, pick and roll(fade), and just keep the ball moving on offense.

                                I do love the ability to switch out on everything the most though. Only time I had trouble was against 7'3 centers that got into the paint.





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