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  • infemous
    MVP
    • Nov 2009
    • 1568

    #946
    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

    Originally posted by franzis
    Those charts above are bad news for my 6'8 playmaker post scorer SF: he won't get neither tier 3 dribbles nor package 4 dunks.

    I have to think about it.
    Yup I made a 6'9 Slashing Playmaker with 200 weight and I feel that I will be locked out of tier 3 dribble moves.

    And I feel that tier 3 dribble moves will be where I can get 80+ speed with ball...

    Now I can't make an ultra athletic SF/PF tweener.. pretty disappointed.
    Blood in my mouth beats blood on the ground.

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    • franzis
      MVP
      • Mar 2008
      • 1451

      #947
      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

      And you know what?


      Those charts can be misleading too.


      If I look at them, I'd say "Great! my 6'8" playmaker/slasher will get both tier 3 and package 4!!" Let's start spending some VC"


      But what about if I make him with longer wingspan (which lowers ball control) and minor weight (which lowers contact dunks)?
      Will I still get the animations?


      Really poor job from 2k this time.

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      • infemous
        MVP
        • Nov 2009
        • 1568

        #948
        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

        Originally posted by franzis
        And you know what?


        Those charts can be misleading too.


        If I look at them, I'd say "Great! my 6'8" playmaker/slasher will get both tier 3 and package 4!!" Let's start spending some VC"


        But what about if I make him with longer wingspan (which lowers ball control) and minor weight (which lowers contact dunks)?
        Will I still get the animations?


        Really poor job from 2k this time.
        guess you gotta make a default weight/wingspan build......


        oh **** i thought all these changes were so we made more unique builds???
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        • fysens
          Rookie
          • Sep 2015
          • 32

          #949
          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

          Originally posted by franzis
          And you know what?


          Those charts can be misleading too.


          If I look at them, I'd say "Great! my 6'8" playmaker/slasher will get both tier 3 and package 4!!" Let's start spending some VC"


          But what about if I make him with longer wingspan (which lowers ball control) and minor weight (which lowers contact dunks)?
          Will I still get the animations?


          Really poor job from 2k this time.
          Wingspan only changes your shooting attributes, it doesn't affect ball control.

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          • Mister ATM
            Rookie
            • Jul 2009
            • 14

            #950
            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

            Originally posted by franzis
            If I look at them, I'd say "Great! my 6'8" playmaker/slash
            But what about if I make him with longer wingspan (which lowers ball control) and minor weight (which lowers contact dunks)?
            Will I still get the animations?


            Really poor job from 2k this time.
            My current dilemma. Without knowing how much weight/wingspan/height lowers/raises certain stats you might end up having the "perfect" build but lock yourself out of crucial animations by a point or 2

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            • catcher_0_3
              Rookie
              • May 2011
              • 449

              #951
              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

              Based on this tweet does it make sense to put your LDD at SG?

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              • Rockie_Fresh88
                Lockdown Defender
                • Oct 2011
                • 9621

                #952
                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                Originally posted by catcher_0_3
                Based on this tweet does it make sense to put your LDD at SG?

                https://twitter.com/choops4life/stat...75571063074816
                Yep . He even says SG/SF/C are more valuable on defense.
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                • infemous
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 1568

                  #953
                  Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                  Originally posted by catcher_0_3
                  Based on this tweet does it make sense to put your LDD at SG?

                  https://twitter.com/choops4life/stat...75571063074816
                  basically means PG and C LDDs are less effective than those in the middle
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                  • Vilden
                    Just started!
                    • Oct 2015
                    • 2

                    #954
                    Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                    I don't know if anyone wrote something about a Dirk Nowitzki style Power Forward build. Since I am not going to online and solely rely on single player experience, a maxed out build will be neither necessary nor realistic for me.

                    For a Dirk-style PF the primary archetype could be 3PT Shooting while the secondary archetype would be Post Scoring. Mid-Range and 3PT would be close to 90 while Post Offense for nasty fadeways would be close to 80.

                    The badge spreadsheet for this archetype combination shows several shooting badges on gold which are all quite fine for a stretch 4 that resembles Dirk Nowitzki.

                    Regarding MyCareer a team like Atlanta or Utah would be suitable right?

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                    • Rockie_Fresh88
                      Lockdown Defender
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 9621

                      #955
                      Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                      Originally posted by Vilden
                      I don't know if anyone wrote something about a Dirk Nowitzki style Power Forward build. Since I am not going to online and solely rely on single player experience, a maxed out build will be neither necessary nor realistic for me.

                      For a Dirk-style PF the primary archetype could be 3PT Shooting while the secondary archetype would be Post Scoring. Mid-Range and 3PT would be close to 90 while Post Offense for nasty fadeways would be close to 80.

                      The badge spreadsheet for this archetype combination shows several shooting badges on gold which are all quite fine for a stretch 4 that resembles Dirk Nowitzki.

                      Regarding MyCareer a team like Atlanta or Utah would be suitable right?
                      Sounds good but Dirk is more Post / 3 than 3 / post. I can see both styles working for a Dirk build. I would gladly play with a big man who used this build in pro am. Atlanta needs everything lol
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                      • franzis
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 1451

                        #956
                        Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                        Originally posted by fysens
                        Wingspan only changes your shooting attributes, it doesn't affect ball control.
                        It does.
                        I just check it on YT

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                        • catcher_0_3
                          Rookie
                          • May 2011
                          • 449

                          #957
                          Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                          Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                          Yep . He even says SG/SF/C are more valuable on defense.
                          I guess I should have been more specific in my question. Right now my pro am team has our 3&D player slotted at SF, would it make more sense to move him to SG and move our pure sharp to SF.

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                          • Vilden
                            Just started!
                            • Oct 2015
                            • 2

                            #958
                            Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                            Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                            Sounds good but Dirk is more Post / 3 than 3 / post. I can see both styles working for a Dirk build. I would gladly play with a big man who used this build in pro am. Atlanta needs everything lol
                            dont you think his attributes for 3pt and midrange would be a bit too low with post as primary? in his best years he went around 40% from downtown. also the badges (while we are not able to see all gold badges for every build) for 3pt/post seem to suit his playstyle more.

                            but i will definitely consider your feedback.

                            on the atlanta part .. yeah .. they do noeed everything. for realism purposes .. if coming undrafted into the nba, you won't be the first scoring option in most teams. atlanta however does not really have any form of reliable scoring. dennis is fine and could be awesome as a pnr-player for a 3pt/post power forward. in atlanta, my player could be the second scoring option for sure.

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                            • Rockie_Fresh88
                              Lockdown Defender
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 9621

                              #959
                              Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                              Originally posted by catcher_0_3
                              I guess I should have been more specific in my question. Right now my pro am team has our 3&D player slotted at SF, would it make more sense to move him to SG and move our pure sharp to SF.
                              Oh ok well it depends . At SF his defensive stopper will affect SG, SF , and PF. At SG it will affect PG , SG, SF. Would he rather switch onto PFs or PGs ? Do you have a big with a LDD in his archetype ?
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                              • nyk_fatboy
                                Pro
                                • Dec 2013
                                • 708

                                #960
                                Re: Dual Archetypes Confirmed... Thoughts? Combinations?

                                i need to see badges and stats i just cant decide lol

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