Angryjoe's 2k take.

[OfficialQbN]

Re: Angryjoe's 2k take.

Who are we standing up for?

Say they get rid of the slot machine due to this "backlash"

Now, MyTeam users have one less way of obtaining resources...something they've continuously asked for. Guess what this will only push them towards? *gasp* ....when they could have just been playing the mode to get these bonuses...

Now, you've gotten rid of something that has actually been requested by the fanbase because you didnt like the optics and didn't understand it.

If we are really that concerned about the consumer let's stop moving the goalposts to to support our personal feelings and address what is actually going on.

Imagine if they had a magic 8 ball that looked like a basketball and that was what provided the rng reward... It would be way less intimidating / shady than a slot machine...

Or a basketball rolling around the rim and falling through for the reward.

You know stuff that actually relates to basketball ? And doesn't even hint at gambling in any way ?

That would be the best course of action to avoid controversy...

[swac07]

Re: Angryjoe's 2k take.

You're not seriously comparing that game with this. Sorry but this is just the worst game to bring up for your point.

That zone was pretty much a pinball machine, there was nothing close to what 2k20 has for a slot machine or pachinkos.


They are bullet proof, they've been pushing the bar of what to get away with on GTA since GTA3, they're not going to be touched by ESRB or Congress at this point. If they can get away with GTA having drugs, strippers and all sorts of stuff in the game they'll definitely get away with it for nba2k.

Maybe yall dont remember casino zone clearly, but you actually jumped(boosted by a pinball paddle) in a slot machine and spun for rings ....if you got all jackpots it was hella rings, if you got dr robotnik you lost all of your coins....soooo I guess sega isnt innocent either lol

https://youtu.be/j0M0ItGizeI

[swac07]

Re: Angryjoe's 2k take.

Heck even the bonus stage on Sonic 3 was a big slot machine [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

https://youtu.be/09p5MiDFSeQ

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[swac07]

Re: Angryjoe's 2k take.

Why stop at Sonic ?? How about his good ol rival Mario...!!

https://youtu.be/UEBJscqzlcY

This was pretty much a functioning slot machine

Lol...y'all gotta stop man[emoji23]

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[loveinanelevator]

Re: Angryjoe's 2k take.

Interesting game choices. I do not recall being able to buy micro transactions on the Genesis or NES or the internet for that matter. The influences of slot machines and other gambling games/modes were generally used for either aesthetics or a unique way of giving a play a power up, etc. There was no ulterior motive. We did not have publishers and developers shoving MTX down our throats. Do not recall hearing of kids rolling into Vegas to drain all of Mom and Dad's bank account back in the 1980's because there was a Sonic level with a slot machine. It was a simpler time and in no way comparable to what kids have to deal with. Just read all the stories about kids stealing their parents CC to pay for skins so their friends won't make fun of them while playing Fortnite.

Also the idea of a slot machine of any kind in a basketball game in the 8 or 16 bit era would be ridiculous. It would serve no point. If we have to continue to explain why these gambling mechanics are in current gen games and psychology behind it, you are obviously set in your ways and it is falling on deaf ears.

[zello144]

Re: Angryjoe's 2k take.

https://v.redd.it/tikk2r4taej31

[swac07]

Re: Angryjoe's 2k take.

Interesting game choices. I do not recall being able to buy micro transactions on the Genesis or NES or the internet for that matter. The influences of slot machines and other gambling games/modes were generally used for either aesthetics or a unique way of giving a play a power up, etc. There was no ulterior motive. We did not have publishers and developers shoving MTX down our throats. Do not recall hearing of kids rolling into Vegas to drain all of Mom and Dad's bank account back in the 1980's because there was a Sonic level with a slot machine. It was a simpler time and in no way comparable to what kids have to deal with. Just read all the stories about kids stealing their parents CC to pay for skins so their friends won't make fun of them while playing Fortnite.

Also the idea of a slot machine of any kind in a basketball game in the 8 or 16 bit era would be ridiculous. It would serve no point. If we have to continue to explain why these gambling mechanics are in current gen games and psychology behind it, you are obviously set in your ways and it is falling on deaf ears.

Lmao dude show me in my team where there are monetary transactions tied to spins in that slot machine in 2k. Literally show me where the user takes vc and purchases a spin. For ''right now'' 2k's slot machine serves the same purpose as those in Sonic and Mario ''Rewards Only''.....
I'm falling on deaf ears, but you cant call a spade a spade?? You mean to tell me gambling mechanics only apply NOW and not THEN in videogames??

I couldn't possibly as a child back in the day get hooked on constantly wanting more rings to gain infinite lives,while knowing theres a chance I could lose em all if I rolled 3 robotnik,(but thats a chance I gotta take to get the desired coins I want/ need in order to have 99 lives!!)Heck I'll sit at home in front of my tv alllll weekend just to make sure I acheive it to!o!

[Sarcasm]
Yup that Sonic bonus game definitely couldn't have ignited the urge for me to gamble as a child and influence such behavior as I became an adult,But mean ol 2k could[/Sarcasm]

[swac07]

Re: Angryjoe's 2k take.

If all this was tied to VC(buying spins) I'd definitely pick up the pitchfork and join the crew cause that involves real money, but its not so I view this as a reach on mob mentality proportions. Heck rarely even play MT and can see that.

[dwnz]

Re: Angryjoe's 2k take.

Comparisons with casinos aside, this should be getting as much negative attention as it is purely because its ****ing awful, and not what a basketball game should be about. There are so many ways they could've improved this mode instead of this crap.

[swac07]

Re: Angryjoe's 2k take.

Comparisons with casinos aside, this should be getting as much negative attention as it is purely because its ****ing awful, and not what a basketball game should be about. There are so many ways they could've improved this mode instead of this crap.

A plumber smashing mushrooms to save a princess and a hedgehog running at the speed of light who can turn super sayain doesnt either, but its there(casino slot machines)...still didnt stop us from playing and neither does this...cause if we're being honest with ourselves 80's or 00's its ALL awful in hindsight With a target on their back(microtransactions wise) I agree 2k dropped the ball on this as it seems like this was their focus trailer wise. People were gonna run with it (without checking if vc was involved)like they are doing in this thread now.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Angryjoe's 2k take.

At the end of the day, these fake revolutionists just want a game where they don't pay for a single damn thing and everything is available on Day 1.

People would be bored with the game by December. Where's the excitement of being able to build a 99 Player from Day One or getting your choice of Galaxy Opal packs from the moment you jump into the MyTeam mode?

Based on the posted article, anything that makes you come back to the game is considered addictive behavior. So, in order to eliminate the possibility of "kids" developing addictive or gambling behavior, 2K Sports would have to make the game in a manner where the only choice that you make is whether or not to play today.

God, you know how boring COD we would be if you can have all the guns and camos unlocked from Day One? Do you know how boring card pack games would be if you had all the packs available to you from Day One?Do you know how boring racing games woild if all the tracks and cars were available Day One?

NONE of these games would have ANY longevity if we tried to "protect kids" from "gambling/addictive" behavior.

[Vroman]

Re: Angryjoe's 2k take.

At the end of the day, these fake revolutionists just want a game where they don't pay for a single damn thing and everything is available on Day 1.

People would be bored with the game by December. Where's the excitement of being able to build a 99 Player from Day One or getting your choice of Galaxy Opal packs from the moment you jump into the MyTeam mode?

Based on the posted article, anything that makes you come back to the game is considered addictive behavior. So, in order to eliminate the possibility of "kids" developing addictive or gambling behavior, 2K Sports would have to make the game in a manner where the only choice that you make is whether or not to play today.

God, you know how boring COD we would be if you can have all the guns and camos unlocked from Day One? Do you know how boring card pack games would be if you had all the packs available to you from Day One?Do you know how boring racing games woild if all the tracks and cars were available Day One?

NONE of these games would have ANY longevity if we tried to "protect kids" from "gambling/addictive" behavior.

In my opinion basketball game don't need grinding for artificial boosts at all. The real grinding is getting better at basketball ,game controls, improving teamwork with teammates etc.
I've had my player max ovr with all badges by the end of december in 2k16 and i still got tons fun using him all the way till 2k17 release despite not earning any more progress ratings/badge wise. Because game had best balance compared to any other nba 2k game and you couldn't just rely on some overpowered animations or badge combos as much.

Likewise other online competative games can be really fun with no grind. Look how cs:go or moba games are popular where you at same playing field regardless how much time u spent in the game, only by skill and game knowledge you can stand out.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Angryjoe's 2k take.

In my opinion basketball game don't need grinding for artificial boosts at all. The real grinding is getting better at basketball ,game controls, improving teamwork with teammates etc.

I've had my player max ovr with all badges by the end of december in 2k16 and i still got tons fun using him all the way till 2k17 release despite not earning any more progress ratings/badge wise. Because game had best balance compared to any other nba 2k game and you couldn't just rely on some overpowered animations or badge combos as much.



Likewise other online competative games can be really fun with no grind. Look how cs:go or moba games are popular where you at same playing field regardless how much time u spent in the game, only by skill and game knowledge you can stand out.

And how much profit are the companies making from those games?

[Vroman]

Re: Angryjoe's 2k take.

And how much profit are the companies making from those games?

Must be enough since those games are running for years already with all the server maintenance and game development costs.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Angryjoe's 2k take.

Must be enough since those games are running for years already with all the server maintenance and game development costs.

Enough? Lmao...so you think Take Two just wants to make "enough" profits? Some of you really think that game companies should be not-for-profit organizations, huh?