Angryjoe's 2k take.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Angryjoe's 2k take.

Who said I wasn't okay with higher-priced games? Don't put words in my mouth.



I'm old enough to remember when Phantasy Star on the Sega Master System was $80 brand new. In 1987 dollars.



And you got EVERYTHING in the game. No further paywalls.



I'm perfectly fine with paying more up-front if I get EVERYTHING in the game.



That's why the amusement parks that charge per ride also allow you to pay for a single ticket to ride them all.



Meanwhile, here's your PR disaster.

And I promise you that 2K20 will still outsell 2K19.

[Nza]

Re: Angryjoe's 2k take.

It should be adults only, there is no way a reasonable person can argue it isn't encouraging gambling with real money.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Angryjoe's 2k take.

It should be adults only, there is no way a reasonable person can argue it isn't encouraging gambling with real money.

Maybe because you don't have to use money to play the slot machine????

Damn, is people being dense on purpose?

[Kid OS]

Re: Angryjoe's 2k take.

Just watch Shakes video from 4:00- 6:00. You'll learn exactly what purpose the slot machine actually serves.

There's a lot of assumptions and false equivalicies being thrown around and a lot of dudes havent even seen the MyTeam main menu. Just watch.

If you think it's about choosing sides at this point, you are the problem.

I watched the video and still feel the same way I did 2 minutes before I watched it. This isn't about choosing sides. It's about right vs wrong.

[loveinanelevator]

Re: Angryjoe's 2k take.

It should be adults only, there is no way a reasonable person can argue it isn't encouraging gambling with real money.

Ignorance is bliss and this thread has some really happy posters. I would argue a T or M rating but once again, Take Two CEO is chairman on the ESRB. At least the Mafia tried to hide their deceitful practices. EA just renames it and 2K makes a video promoting it.

[Kid OS]

Re: Angryjoe's 2k take.

Maybe because you don't have to use money to play the slot machine????

Damn, is people being dense on purpose?

Key word here is "encouraging". Using slot machines encourages gambling. Put 2K's slot machine in front of a gambling addict and ask them what it reminds them of. Not a single one of those people is going to say, "Ah, this reminds me of those wonderful surprise mechanics that gives me free gifts!". They're all gonna say, "gambling". Point, blank, that time of the month.

EDIT: as a matter of fact, put a slot machine in front of anyone over the age of 9 and ask them what comes to mind.

[loveinanelevator]

Re: Angryjoe's 2k take.

Damn, is people being dense on purpose?

Some people are able to see the bigger picture. The gambling mechanics are intentional, even the ones that do not cost money to play. They are preying on kids the same way the cigarettes companies did. This has been studied and is a known fact. Publishers have even come out to say they have people on their staff or contract workers that their only job is to find ways to make money after the retail sale. Using the same techniques that you would see in a casino.


Only difference. Be sure and read this part CAREFULLY. Kids are not able to legally gamble in a Casino. They are on the other hand able to purchase NBA 2K20 because it is rated E for Everybody.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Angryjoe's 2k take.

I watched the video and still feel the same way I did 2 minutes before I watched it. This isn't about choosing sides. It's about right vs wrong.

Playing a NBA game and getting free stuff afterwards is wrong? You're going to play the game anyway with or without the slot machine in it, right? So....

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Angryjoe's 2k take.

Some people are able to see the bigger picture. The gambling mechanics are intentional, even the ones that do not cost money to play. They are preying on kids the same way the cigarettes companies did. This has been studied and is a known fact. Publishers have even come out to say they have people on their staff or contract workers that their only job is to find ways to make money after the retail sale. Using the same techniques that you would see in a casino.


Only difference. Be sure and read this part CAREFULLY. Kids are not able to legally gamble in a Casino. They are on the other hand able to purchase NBA 2K20 because it is rated E for Everybody.

And packs of cigarettes are clearly visible in grocery stores and gas stations...does everyone smoke in America?

[loveinanelevator]

Re: Angryjoe's 2k take.

Playing a NBA game and getting free stuff afterwards is wrong? You're going to play the game anyway with or without the slot machine in it, right? So....

While I doubt you will take the time to read it... Here is one of a million different articles that explains the psychology behind why those slots/loot boxes, etc exist.

https://www.pcgamer.com/behind-the-addictive-psychology-and-seductive-art-of-loot-boxes/

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Re: Angryjoe's 2k take.

Are the angry people gonna skip and not buy 2K20, or yall just gonna keep arguing on the internet?

[antdoggydogg]

Re: Angryjoe's 2k take.

Key word here is "encouraging". Using slot machines encourages gambling. Put 2K's slot machine in front of a gambling addict and ask them what it reminds them of. Not a single one of those people is going to say, "Ah, this reminds me of those wonderful surprise mechanics that gives me free gifts!". They're all gonna say, "gambling". Point, blank, that time of the month.

EDIT: as a matter of fact, put a slot machine in front of anyone over the age of 9 and ask them what comes to mind.

Asking for a Teen rating sticker on the cover is one thing, which I would probably agree with, and its also something I don't think would affect their sales much since parents just see it as a basketball game. But I think its naive to expect a company to look out for the best interests of people who may or may not have gambling addictions, or prevent kids from being exposed to an image of a slot machine. That part feels like 2019 fake outrage to me. They're in it to make money. It's the consumers job to practice self-control

[loveinanelevator]

Re: Angryjoe's 2k take.

And packs of cigarettes are clearly visible in grocery stores and gas stations...does everyone smoke in America?

Print this and hand it to someone near you. It will just save me a lot of time.

[antdoggydogg]

Re: Angryjoe's 2k take.

Playing a NBA game and getting free stuff afterwards is wrong? You're going to play the game anyway with or without the slot machine in it, right? So....

Exactly, those slot machine moments are rewards on top of your reward for winning. You aren't inserting actual money or VC into the slot machine. Sounds like you guys are just using kids as a cover for your own interests.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Angryjoe's 2k take.

While I doubt you will take the time to read it... Here is one of a million different articles that explains the psychology behind why those slots/loot boxes, etc exist.



https://www.pcgamer.com/behind-the-a...of-loot-boxes/

Wow...short summary. Publisher create video games to entertain people while creating some sense of progression and a reward system that make people want to continue playing the game.

No sh*t, Sherlock.

I guess I must have an addiction to Popeye's, because I going back for their chicken.