Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on release

[rudyjuly2]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

I thought L1 was just double team


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In the controller settings you an toggle L1 to be either double team or just help.

As far as this NBA soft vs not stuff cluttering this thread, do not let Bad Boy flagrants cloud your mind. It’s a dumb and false narrative led by Abraham Simpson. Watch the video:

https://twitter.com/itsantwright/status/1245487224025681921?s=21

[alabamarob]

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I had no clue you could do this https://youtu.be/2EhaLLtt4hQ

This is 90 percent of my defense. Ha. But, there is no icon specific help. There is random L1 help, and then there is player specific doubles. I have no idea why they won't give us the option of player specific help. His use of the cancel button is clever though.


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This was in the game last year but I had no idea there were so many sub-options within it..

Some of the backline rotations in this video are absolutely gorgeous.

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There are no options to it. But his understanding of who comes to help is new info to me. I thought it was random.

I thought L1 was just double team


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Smh. Shame on you. I told you this last year.

Alot of stuff hidden in this game. Same with throwing lob passes. You can only do that by changing passing options.

[AIRJ23]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

In the controller settings you an toggle L1 to be either double team or just help.

As far as this NBA soft vs not stuff cluttering this thread, do not let Bad Boy flagrants cloud your mind. It’s a dumb and false narrative led by Abraham Simpson. Watch the video:
https://twitter.com/itsantwright/sta...025681921?s=21

The worst 2 minutes of 80’s footage and still better defense than Harden lol.

[Smirkin Dirk]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

There are no options to it. But his understanding of who comes to help is new info to me. I thought it was random.







Smh. Shame on you. I told you this last year.



Alot of stuff hidden in this game. Same with throwing lob passes. You can only do that by changing passing options.

Nup wasn’t me, I had to skip 21.

[AIRJ23]

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Man. I’m playing my first full game on 22 and even with this patch making defense close to 21, it’s nowhere near as bad as 2K21 defense.

[The 24th Letter]

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There's an NBA forum. Let's keep this thread on NBA 2K's help defense, please.

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[JoFri]

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There's an NBA forum. Let's keep this thread on NBA 2K's help defense, please.

Now this is 2K22..

https://media4.giphy.com/media/Ok7DFdNUeB9U5P4E9w/giphy.gif?cid=5e214886170d41bbc9f3589b14381aa8205d37ffed885bfc&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

[Luke Skywalker]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Man. I’m playing my first full game on 22 and even with this patch making defense close to 21, it’s nowhere near as bad as 2K21 defense.

If you really mess around with the sliders, particularly the Ball Handling, Ball Security, Dribble Sensitivity, and CPU’s ability to play defense (speed, lateral quickness, steal etc.) The game becomes a lot more competitive.

For instance, I’m running a game right now: low score with atrocious FG%. 96 Bulls vs 96 Sonics. I’m currently in the 4th quarter; I am setting manual screens and its a lot harder to go around and accelerate towards the basket. Sometimes, I even lose the ball and it goes out of bounds (same for CPU).

I’ve done other stuff like dropping Pass Speed to 40, and Hands to 65 whilst dropping Steal to 40. Play The Passing Lane slider to 70– it’s feeling like a way different game.

Default sliders, you could carelessly dribble in traffic, there is no penalty for excessive dribbling. The CPU reaction is weak. If you really mess with the sliders, you can make a challenging yet strategic game for yourself. It might not be real, but in all actuality realism is an illusion— we just want a tougher CPU to play against.

i.e. If you put the CPU’s Pass Speed to like 60, you’ll play a lot differently against each CPU, especially those who have the Bullet Pass badge. It changes your approach, and I think that’s the kind of stuff that we need in a game: it’s called variety.

[AIRJ23]

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Now this is 2K22..
https://media4.giphy.com/media/Ok7DF...giphy.gif&ct=g

LMAOOOOO. I don’t think even 2K21 defense was that bad. Surprised the shot clock didn’t run out.

[The 24th Letter]

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Corner man rotating down

https://streamable.com/0ht0y9

Hot fix?



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[AIRJ23]

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If you really mess around with the sliders, particularly the Ball Handling, Ball Security, Dribble Sensitivity, and CPU’s ability to play defense (speed, lateral quickness, steal etc.) The game becomes a lot more competitive.

For instance, I’m running a game right now: low score with atrocious FG%. 96 Bulls vs 96 Sonics. I’m currently in the 4th quarter; I am setting manual screens and its a lot harder to go around and accelerate towards the basket. Sometimes, I even lose the ball and it goes out of bounds (same for CPU).

I’ve done other stuff like dropping Pass Speed to 40, and Hands to 65 whilst dropping Steal to 40. Play The Passing Lane slider to 70– it’s feeling like a way different game.

Default sliders, you could carelessly dribble in traffic, there is no penalty for excessive dribbling. The CPU reaction is weak. If you really mess with the sliders, you can make a challenging yet strategic game for yourself. It might not be real, but in all actuality realism is an illusion— we just want a tougher CPU to play against.

i.e. If you put the CPU’s Pass Speed to like 60, you’ll play a lot differently against each CPU, especially those who have the Bullet Pass badge. It changes your approach, and I think that’s the kind of stuff that we need in a game: it’s called variety.

Makes sense. I’m playing currently with a modified version of all star (basically rose every defensive slider to 50 that was under it, evened just about everything other than shooting to 50, and put fouls at HoF foul levels) and my first full game my custom MJ Bulls got destroyed by custom all time Pistons. So I redid the game by lowering the CPU shooting to 50 and raising my shooting to 54. Then the game got competitive. Once I was beating them, I evened us back to 52 shooting all around just like standard all star.

So basically I’m playing on slightly harder version of all star now. And the game was super fun. Went to OT and I won. So I’m gonna try and stick with this as a basis until I get the hang of the game then work from there. Sticking to modifying shooting sliders if the CPU is too good or if I need them to be better. Then will move onto defense stuff.

I found the defense MOSTLY good. Obviously better than 2K21. But I did see some 2K21 moments where help D would run away from me instead of guard me. Switching and IQ is generally ahead of 21.

MJ DID get doubled late in the game and they even forced a turnover at a clutch moment. That was great. Doubles seem solid. I wouldn’t mind seeing a lot more of it, both post (definitely post) and perimeter.

If they fix the help D, the game will be complete. Right now the CPU feels “alive” until you see them stand around and all opposing players not only give you wide open lanes, but actually run away from you as if they’re trying to throw the game because they bet on the other team. That’s an immersion breaker to say the least.

I also lowered drive tendencies for most players who had it at 99 and rose contested mid range tendencies for current players (classic players don’t need it as they have good mid range tendencies) by 20-30 points. It’s made a huge difference in opening the game up.

[Mikelopedia]

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Corner man rotating down

https://streamable.com/0ht0y9

Hot fix?



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24, I'm assuming this was from today?
If so I'm about to fire up the game for the first time in a week lol.
Was that a manual PnR he was tagging the roller on or a playbook call?

[AIRJ23]

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OH. Best part is, I was studying up on player stats to get tendencies right. Never knew Bill Lambeer was a damn near a sharpshooter. Dude shot nearly .900 FT% and didn’t take many threes, but one year he averaged 2 per game and shot .361%. For a big man in the 80’s when they weren’t expected to shoot.

I figure him in today’s NBA would be a weapon and would hoist lots of shots up. I rose his 3 point tendency from an inaccurate 0 to like 20-30 and he even hit a clutch three on it.

Tendencies are what make this game. I hate to say it, ‘cause they’re a pain to manage (and they change every year in MyNBA making them an even bigger pain to manage). But lots of realism to unlock by modifying contested mid range jumpers for current players, three pointers for classic players, and drive tendencies for all players.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

24, I'm assuming this was from today?

If so I'm about to fire up the game for the first time in a week lol.

Was that a manual PnR he was tagging the roller on or a playbook call?

Yes, this morning, manual PnR

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[Mikelopedia]

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There absolutely was a hot fix this morning.

Just hit (or even had the opportunity to attempt) my first drive, kick, swing to beat the rotation 3 in 2 weeks.

Thank you Czar!

Still testing but its at least better than what it just was.