Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on release

[49UNCFan]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

I’m not getting the results

[el jimmy]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Damn. I just had a scrimmage and killed the nuggets with Luka in manual pnr over and over again. Turned defensive sliders up to 100. Still nothing.

[49UNCFan]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

This fix is not working smh. Nothing has been updated

[vannwolfhawk]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Was help defense adjusted again? I am not getting the same results I was earlier tonight

I’m not getting the results

Damn. I just had a scrimmage and killed the nuggets with Luka in manual pnr over and over again. Turned defensive sliders up to 100. Still nothing.

I finally had some time to play tonight for the 1st time since Thursday and i haven’t seen any help at all like the videos that were posted earlier. And I’ve jacked up cpu help sliders also to no avail. Weird…

1 funny thing I’ve seen twice though is 2 X out closeouts and they were amazing for extra passes but that was off a double on help on a ball screen and a pick and pop that left the corner 3 open for the extra pass with a closeout running at him. It was beautiful so that’s a plus.

[AIRJ23]

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Nope. No remedy.

I have point guards on Olajuwon at the post and zero double teams or help defense.

[EccentricMeat]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Not sure if this is due to some kind of “update” or my own settings, but I’m seeing plenty of help defense, rotations with secondary rotations behind it, double teams on drives, etc. on next gen. I’m using the settings in my slider thread with only these additional changes:

Layup Defense Strength (Takeoff) - 100
Layup Defense Strength (Release) - 75

Note that I did not test with my original settings which have these two sliders at 75 and 50, respectively. I’ll revert these two sliders to my original settings and post my results shortly.

EDIT: Alright, so when testing the Layup Defense Strength sliders at 75 and 50 (identical to the Jump Shot Defense Strength sliders), the AI was definitely more inclined to stick to the perimeter and give up the paint. When I dropped the Jump Shot Defense Strength sliders both down to 50 (so that the Layup sliders were higher) I then saw more help defense to try and protect the paint (even if that help was a little weaker than I would like to see).

[The 24th Letter]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

I finally had some time to play tonight for the 1st time since Thursday and i haven’t seen any help at all like the videos that were posted earlier. And I’ve jacked up cpu help sliders also to no avail. Weird…

1 funny thing I’ve seen twice though is 2 X out closeouts and they were amazing for extra passes but that was off a double on help on a ball screen and a pick and pop that left the corner 3 open for the extra pass with a closeout running at him. It was beautiful so that’s a plus.

Odd, As of right this moment, HOF default Play Now 2K22 NG on the Series X, I'm seeing the same help defense shown in all the videos today. Going to link another with Harden here below once it processes.

Can you guys post your footage of what you're seeing as well?

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[vannwolfhawk]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Odd, As of right this moment, HOF default Play Now 2K22 NG on the Series X, I'm seeing the same help defense shown in all the videos today. Going to link another with Harden here below once it processes.

Can you guys post your footage of what you're seeing as well?

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Ya I’m on same system and settings. I even just went with out of box sliders and reset everything to compare apples to apples to see and test. Then I lowered all d sliders for easy paths and nothing. I got no rotation or help at all. Weird… I wonder because I hadn’t been on since last Thursday if I missed an update or something?

[vannwolfhawk]

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24, are you on version 2.0.0.13?

I literally have not seen the corner help come 1x in 2 hours of playing. I’ve even tweaked things. I also tried eccentrics post. Nothing…

I’m not sure I got the latest update… but it says no updates available. It says on my file last update was 9/30/2021 at 3:10am (that was Friday’s update) but wasn’t there 1 today?

[Smirkin Dirk]

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I’m on that version VWH and the help d is nonexistent still.

Ive got clips but it’s not what Rob showed. Its rollers walking into the lane.

[vannwolfhawk]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

I’m on that version VWH and the help d is nonexistent still.

Ive got clips but it’s not what Rob showed. Its rollers walking into the lane.

Ya this is weird. I got the same. No one tags roller ever, no corner help and wide open layups, and no small ball like in robs other thread. How can we have these different experiences? I mean I saw the videos and know that other guys are getting that but I’ve got nothing close to that. Lol

What is happening here! Im losing it! Lmao

Edit- I just tried default 2k roster thinking maybe it was a roster update and maybe it was my roster edits. Nope same thing. But I did just remind myself how god awful the default roster gameplay is. Wow!

I haven’t seen any update though like go to main screen and never saw a download needed. So Idk ��*♂️

[Smirkin Dirk]

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This is what I saw.

Scrimmaged against Bucks on HOF default sliders and manual pick and roll is spammable all day.

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[Smirkin Dirk]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Im literally driving and dunking every possession vs Milwaukee HOF. All default

Hopefully this update comes through.

[AIRJ23]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Not sure if this is due to some kind of “update” or my own settings, but I’m seeing plenty of help defense, rotations with secondary rotations behind it, double teams on drives, etc. on next gen. I’m using the settings in my slider thread with only these additional changes:

Layup Defense Strength (Takeoff) - 100
Layup Defense Strength (Release) - 75

Note that I did not test with my original settings which have these two sliders at 75 and 50, respectively. I’ll revert these two sliders to my original settings and post my results shortly.

EDIT: Alright, so when testing the Layup Defense Strength sliders at 75 and 50 (identical to the Jump Shot Defense Strength sliders), the AI was definitely more inclined to stick to the perimeter and give up the paint. When I dropped the Jump Shot Defense Strength sliders both down to 50 (so that the Layup sliders were higher) I then saw more help defense to try and protect the paint (even if that help was a little weaker than I would like to see).

Can you please try it with those defensive sliders all at 50 and report back? Curious as to how it differs from your settings on your game.

Ya this is weird. I got the same. No one tags roller ever, no corner help and wide open layups, and no small ball like in robs other thread. How can we have these different experiences? I mean I saw the videos and know that other guys are getting that but I’ve got nothing close to that. Lol

What is happening here! Im losing it! Lmao

Edit- I just tried default 2k roster thinking maybe it was a roster update and maybe it was my roster edits. Nope same thing. But I did just remind myself how god awful the default roster gameplay is. Wow!

I haven’t seen any update though like go to main screen and never saw a download needed. So Idk ��*♂️

Yeah standard tendencies are trash. What changes did you make?

I rose contested mid range jumpers for current players (they’re good on classic players) and rose 3 point tendencies for some classic players (which were at 0 ridiculously) and slightly lowered some players’ drive tendencies if they were at 99. It’s helped some.

[rudyjuly2]

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Posted this in main impressions. Definitely seeing different things. The Over defence and sagging in particular.

I’m seeing more “over” PNR coverage now. Before it was 99% under. And I swear they are really sagging off bad shooters now. Josh Jackson is a 30% deep threat and they ran away from covering him!

https://twitter.com/rudyjuly2/status/1445322799439036416?s=21

Uh oh. They are sagging way too often and in decent shooters like Jerami Grant. Wth?

https://twitter.com/rudyjuly2/status/1445324919970091009?s=21

Good help on PNR and x-out.

https://twitter.com/rudyjuly2/status/1445327665939075076?s=21