Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on release

[vannwolfhawk]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

I see what’s happening now on the 2 side strong side PNR. The top wing is trying to help on the driver (PNR ball handler) off the PNR (but recognizes it WAY to slow to get in proper position to help) so the corner guy moves up to play 2 and that leaves the wide open corner 3 on the drive and kick.

I mean it’s why the help shouldn’t ever come from there anyways and it should always be the lowest guy on the weak side of the floor. So, I’m not sure if it’s drive help that’s triggering it? But it’s definitely how it’s happening on the 2 side PNR’s I’d say in 75% of the PNR’s I run with a 2 side as the strong side.

[alabamarob]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Exactly, and add the new coverage and contest system which makes things easier to shoot you can get 65% FG and higher on HOF easily. The same applies to user vs user,too.

You guys are so much better then I am. I have not shot over 50 percent in a game yet. To hear people talk about shooting 65 percent from the field tells me how bad I am.

[vannwolfhawk]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

You guys are so much better then I am. I have not shot over 50 percent in a game yet. To hear people talk about shooting 65 percent from the field tells me how bad I am.

I keep slowly turning my user shooting sliders down too. I also have the on release sliders nearly maxed on contest on release. I think it’s the wide open shots though and the uncontested ones that are money. Do you shoot with the meter? I don’t use the meter and I know there is a user bonus for that as well.

[Smirkin Dirk]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Yeah I’ve never had this much trouble with shooting sliders. Wide open Js rarely miss, contested shots don’t go in. Ive got a better balance now but not where I want it.

[alabamarob]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

I keep slowly turning my user shooting sliders down too. I also have the on release sliders nearly maxed on contest on release. I think it’s the wide open shots though and the uncontested ones that are money. Do you shoot with the meter? I don’t use the meter and I know there is a user bonus for that as well.

I don’t consider anyone’s numbers who use sliders. So I should have said other then you. I am speaking about default. Slider adjustments have no standard so I can’t comment on those.

[ataman5]

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You guys are so much better then I am. I have not shot over 50 percent in a game yet. To hear people talk about shooting 65 percent from the field tells me how bad I am.

No no not an overall, what i meant was for those kinda shots mostly and punishing those bad rotations one after another etc..

[kwabalicious]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Welp mine isn't working anymore. Maybe tomorrow

[AIRJ23]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Yeah I’ve never had this much trouble with shooting sliders. Wide open Js rarely miss, contested shots don’t go in. Ive got a better balance now but not where I want it.

What are your shooting and contested sliders at?

Wide open J’s go in maybe too much and contested don’t go in at all. I did a scrimmage and shot 50 contested mid ranges with MJ. Zero went in.

Someone also said that the defensive sliders work in reverse for him (contested layup, shots, gather, etc.). When he put them at zero he couldn’t make anything and when he put that at 100 shots were going in.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

If you turn on team communication, you'll see there's a bit of method to the help defense madness. The CPU can guess wrong (and right sometimes!) and I like that...



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[vannwolfhawk]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

I don’t consider anyone’s numbers who use sliders. So I should have said other then you. I am speaking about default. Slider adjustments have no standard so I can’t comment on those.

Lol! Default? What’s that? Haha

Ya, some of us prefer real basketball and a challenge from the AI. Lol 1 day Rob you will come around… But I won’t hold my breathe…

[alabamarob]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

Lol! Default? What’s that? Haha

Ya, some of us prefer real basketball and a challenge from the AI. Lol 1 day Rob you will come around… But I won’t hold my breathe…

Mike has brought me around, so I am no longer against sliders. I was saying that once you start to change the game from its original state, then you can’t blame the game for the numbers imo. Because, you aren’t playing it as they made it. Now, if you can get numbers where they should be then that is a different and better story.

[Smallville102001]

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You guys are so much better then I am. I have not shot over 50 percent in a game yet. To hear people talk about shooting 65 percent from the field tells me how bad I am.

Tell me about it. The like highest fg% I have had is like 54% and CPU like 55 and that is in around 35 games on all star and before I changed sliders to make things more easy for offensive most games I was 40-45 with most being closer to 40 then 45.

[Smirkin Dirk]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

What are your shooting and contested sliders at?

Wide open J’s go in maybe too much and contested don’t go in at all. I did a scrimmage and shot 50 contested mid ranges with MJ. Zero went in.

Someone also said that the defensive sliders work in reverse for him (contested layup, shots, gather, etc.). When he put them at zero he couldn’t make anything and when he put that at 100 shots were going in.

It’s worded tricky. Those sliders are in the defense section. So if I want more of my contested shots going in, I turn down shot release Etc down in the cpu section.

Ive found myself hitting some contested shots with them at 20.

[Smallville102001]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

It’s worded tricky. Those sliders are in the defense section. So if I want more of my contested shots going in, I turn down shot release Etc down in the cpu section.

Ive found myself hitting some contested shots with them at 20.

You talking about the shot strength sliders at 20?

[vannwolfhawk]

Re: Please turn the help defense, and cutter help defense back to were it was on rele

It’s worded tricky. Those sliders are in the defense section. So if I want more of my contested shots going in, I turn down shot release Etc down in the cpu section.

Ive found myself hitting some contested shots with them at 20.

I know in years past that’s how they used to work. But unless I am misunderstanding what your saying or maybe even how it’s been in the past (I shelved last 3 editions early), That’s not the case this year with gather and release. If you want to make it easier or harder for the user then you use user gather settings. It makes the cpu defense tougher or vice versa. You can also see this by going to different skill levels (rookie, all star, superstar, hof, etc). You can see they set it as intended as well. You can test this by zero out driving contact and going 100 on the cpu. Then reverse it. You will immediately see the difference.

But Im pretty sure you are talking here about shot timing and coverage impact? Those also don’t work reversed. I have tested this and used shot feedback on both user and cpu to confirm. When on 100 for shot coverage impact and even for cpu they didn’t hit any shots when shot was contested. At 0 they hit a ton while being above 50% contests. I have settled on 15 for cpu. Eliminating shot timing impact for cpu as well. I did the same thing for me and saw same results. Ive seen other people think it’s the other way around. It was placebo.

So, if you want more user shots to go in lower user setting. If your bad at shot timing lower it to 34 on user side. You will see a huge difference. Just leave the shot feedback on and you will see. If you want more contested shots to go in and lower the user shot coverage. This will mean the cpu has to be super close to be considered a contest as well as mean you have a higher chance of making the contested shot. You will also see this in shot feedback. You will see lower contest percentages and more balls going in the hoop.

Edit: I should state this is X box next gen & I have no clue if last gen is the same or not?