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  • Eurodawg
    Banned
    • Jul 2004
    • 308

    #526
    Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

    Originally posted by monkey
    It's important to call TO's for BOTH teams stamina etc.

    Ie, the cpu doesn't call any...so it's important you do.

    This problem will be fixed with time, I am sure
    Sorry but not for ps2...

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    • Eurodawg
      Banned
      • Jul 2004
      • 308

      #527
      Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

      Originally posted by monkey
      It's important to call TO's for BOTH teams stamina etc.

      Ie, the cpu doesn't call any...so it's important you do.

      This problem will be fixed with time, I am sure
      Sorry but not for ps2...

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      • sirjam
        MVP
        • Oct 2002
        • 3535

        #528
        Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

        Any word on with Time out patch is coming?

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        • sirjam
          MVP
          • Oct 2002
          • 3535

          #529
          Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

          Any word on with Time out patch is coming?

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          • ChuckStank
            Rookie
            • Mar 2004
            • 14

            #530
            Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

            Does anybody know if VC will release a new version of the game with the TO bug fixed? If so, I'll just head to Wal-Mart and exchange mine for a new one.

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            • ChuckStank
              Rookie
              • Mar 2004
              • 14

              #531
              Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

              Does anybody know if VC will release a new version of the game with the TO bug fixed? If so, I'll just head to Wal-Mart and exchange mine for a new one.

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              • Jimplication
                MVP
                • Aug 2004
                • 3591

                #532
                Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

                I highly doubt they are patching or releasing a fixed version of the game.

                If something is wrong with a football game, it's noticed by a ton of people, and fixed. With NBA, I personally don't see it as being as popular a game, and thus they don't care about patching the game.

                I don't have sales comparison statistics, but I think ESPN Football sold a ton more copies than their NBA game, and that resulted in them patching the game. With NBA, I doubt they will do the same. Especially since the game was only $20 and sold less than their NFL game. I don't think the profits are there to make them care enough about whether they patch the game or not.

                I'd love to see them prove me wrong and fix this. If they did. I'd start playing the game again, but as it stands now, this glitch ruins the game for me, and it's inexcusable for something like this to get past testing. I would think at some point someone, anyone, that played the game prior to release would be like, "Hey, they aren't calling timeouts, at all!" But clearly that isn't the case here.
                Enjoy football? Enjoy Goal Line Blitz!

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                • Jimplication
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 3591

                  #533
                  Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

                  I highly doubt they are patching or releasing a fixed version of the game.

                  If something is wrong with a football game, it's noticed by a ton of people, and fixed. With NBA, I personally don't see it as being as popular a game, and thus they don't care about patching the game.

                  I don't have sales comparison statistics, but I think ESPN Football sold a ton more copies than their NBA game, and that resulted in them patching the game. With NBA, I doubt they will do the same. Especially since the game was only $20 and sold less than their NFL game. I don't think the profits are there to make them care enough about whether they patch the game or not.

                  I'd love to see them prove me wrong and fix this. If they did. I'd start playing the game again, but as it stands now, this glitch ruins the game for me, and it's inexcusable for something like this to get past testing. I would think at some point someone, anyone, that played the game prior to release would be like, "Hey, they aren't calling timeouts, at all!" But clearly that isn't the case here.
                  Enjoy football? Enjoy Goal Line Blitz!

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                  • Eurodawg
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 308

                    #534
                    Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

                    what was patched for nfl 2k5?
                    and how did it work for ps2?

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                    • Eurodawg
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 308

                      #535
                      Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

                      what was patched for nfl 2k5?
                      and how did it work for ps2?

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                      • quietcool72
                        Pro
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 995

                        #536
                        Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

                        Originally posted by taylor34
                        Maybe you've forgotten about the lefty glitch(MVP), the no progression glitch (MVP), the fatigue glitch(Madden), the slowdown glitch(NCAA). EA's got the same problems.

                        Taylor34
                        1. Lefty glitch: never dug that deep into MVP. Not a baseball fan.
                        2. Fatigue glitch. Well, this is an online cheeser thing- not a franchise thing.
                        Two SOLID opponents wouldnt do it to one another.
                        3. Slowdown Glitch. Yes, it was bad, but only effected XBOX- not PS2.

                        Now- would you like a list of all the MAJOR VC problems?
                        NFL 2K5:
                        1. Clipping glitch
                        2. DT induced illegal OL downfield glitch
                        3. Gimme routes - several of them
                        4. The famous hot "Spy" doesnt work issue.
                        5. Hot Double team doesn't often work issue.
                        6. 3/4 Defense stat glitch in franchise
                        7. Insane trades glitch.
                        8. IR review not stopping the clock glitch.

                        And those 8 are just from memory. I think you'd have to agree that overall, EA's games have far less bugs than VC's -at least this year.

                        VC has some SERIOUS problems.
                        They seem to be giving the impression of a ship about to sink.

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                        • quietcool72
                          Pro
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 995

                          #537
                          Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

                          Originally posted by taylor34
                          Maybe you've forgotten about the lefty glitch(MVP), the no progression glitch (MVP), the fatigue glitch(Madden), the slowdown glitch(NCAA). EA's got the same problems.

                          Taylor34
                          1. Lefty glitch: never dug that deep into MVP. Not a baseball fan.
                          2. Fatigue glitch. Well, this is an online cheeser thing- not a franchise thing.
                          Two SOLID opponents wouldnt do it to one another.
                          3. Slowdown Glitch. Yes, it was bad, but only effected XBOX- not PS2.

                          Now- would you like a list of all the MAJOR VC problems?
                          NFL 2K5:
                          1. Clipping glitch
                          2. DT induced illegal OL downfield glitch
                          3. Gimme routes - several of them
                          4. The famous hot "Spy" doesnt work issue.
                          5. Hot Double team doesn't often work issue.
                          6. 3/4 Defense stat glitch in franchise
                          7. Insane trades glitch.
                          8. IR review not stopping the clock glitch.

                          And those 8 are just from memory. I think you'd have to agree that overall, EA's games have far less bugs than VC's -at least this year.

                          VC has some SERIOUS problems.
                          They seem to be giving the impression of a ship about to sink.

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                          • totalownership
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 3838

                            #538
                            Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

                            Originally posted by quietcool72
                            VC has some SERIOUS problems.
                            They seem to be giving the impression of a ship about to sink.
                            You must be a theater major in college, quite dramatic there. I see it as being quite the opposite. I see a ship opening it's sails and going all out. I can let the bugs go this year for the simple fact that if you look at all they are doing. ESPN NBA is LEAPS and BOUNDS ahead of ESPN NBA 2K4 , Live can't even begin to claim that. I've played them and it's not there. ESPN NFL 2K5 is also light years ahead of what 2K4 was. If they are trying to make progress like that I can "forgive" some of the things that slip through the cracks. Now if they had just rehashed last years titles, basically pulled an EA, then I'd be up in arms. In fact for EA to have ANY bugs at all this year is dumb. Come on, all they're doing is putting out the same game as last year and changing a few variables to fool people into thinking they actually did something. They had way more time to work their bugs out.

                            ESPN 2K6 titles really should just clean up bugs, rework presentation graphics to what is current on ESPN Tv , of course do the rosters, and maybe add just a few features. But they should just tighten their game up from this year.

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                            • totalownership
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 3838

                              #539
                              Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

                              Originally posted by quietcool72
                              VC has some SERIOUS problems.
                              They seem to be giving the impression of a ship about to sink.
                              You must be a theater major in college, quite dramatic there. I see it as being quite the opposite. I see a ship opening it's sails and going all out. I can let the bugs go this year for the simple fact that if you look at all they are doing. ESPN NBA is LEAPS and BOUNDS ahead of ESPN NBA 2K4 , Live can't even begin to claim that. I've played them and it's not there. ESPN NFL 2K5 is also light years ahead of what 2K4 was. If they are trying to make progress like that I can "forgive" some of the things that slip through the cracks. Now if they had just rehashed last years titles, basically pulled an EA, then I'd be up in arms. In fact for EA to have ANY bugs at all this year is dumb. Come on, all they're doing is putting out the same game as last year and changing a few variables to fool people into thinking they actually did something. They had way more time to work their bugs out.

                              ESPN 2K6 titles really should just clean up bugs, rework presentation graphics to what is current on ESPN Tv , of course do the rosters, and maybe add just a few features. But they should just tighten their game up from this year.

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                              • quietcool72
                                Pro
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 995

                                #540
                                Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

                                Originally posted by totalownership

                                ....I can let the bugs go this year for the simple fact that if you look at all they are doing.

                                .... If they are trying to make progress like that I can "forgive" some of the things that slip through the cracks.

                                .....Now if they had just rehashed last years titles, basically pulled an EA, then I'd be up in arms. .. Come on, all they're doing is putting out the same game as last year and changing a few variables to fool people into thinking they actually did something..

                                ESPN 2K6 titles really should just clean up bugs, rework presentation graphics to what is current on ESPN Tv , of course do the rosters, and maybe add just a few features. But they should just tighten their game up from this year.
                                Hmm, interesting. I see that you apply a WAY more laxed standard on VCs game? Ah yes, you are another VC Apologist- OP Sports seems to have its fair share of them. (Like the ones that INSIST they have seen QB spy work once or twice on NFL 2K5).

                                But lets debate, point by point.
                                You can let the bugs go? Wow.. that says a ton. Why not just wear a Sega Fanboy shirt and under-roos and be done with it?

                                You can forgive them if they are "trying to make progress?" Would progress somehow not include fixing the bugs and doing some quality control? Many on this board, after reading that, must be damn glad you aren't a game developer. Again, your fanboy colors are showing. Funny how TIMEOUT bugs slip through the cracks, just like gimme routes, post-instant replay challenge possession issues, penalty/stat bugs, clipping bugs, spy issues, double team issues, and stoppage of playclock issues seem to slip through cracks.

                                And then you say "2K6 titles should just clean up the bugs...and tighten things up". But wait? I'm confused. Why didn't the 2K5 titles clean up 2K4's bugs and "tighten things up." READ YOUR OWN WORDS...

                                ...So you are suggesting they should pull an EA-like conservative upgrade from 2K5 to 2K6 (while admitting 2K5 had bugs from 2K4 that need cleaned up in 2K6)

                                ...Hmmm, so you dislike EA, but want VC to act just like them? Is that what we are to take from that?

                                Oh, I'm sorry- I FORGOT! there's the standard by which you judge EA games, versus the laxed standard by which you judge VC's? Forgive me for the oversight.

                                Ah, then there's the re-hashed engine issue. Hmmm, let me see, some of the SAME stat bugs in ESPN NFL 2K4 show up again in NFL 2K5 (progress? New engine? I think not.) The clipping bug was there in NFL 2K4, and it strangely makes its appearance in 2K5. New engine? Funny how the old engine's problems carry-over ...

                                ..with the same bugs.

                                No sir. Same engine. Enhanced graphics/textures.
                                Stop me if any of this sounds like EA's philosophy to you....

                                A "Ship opening its sails to go all out" eh? Guess they are too cool to take time to fix old bugs from two years prior before opening those sails, bro. (To say nothing of the new problems.)

                                Whatever, you can sit there and be the fanboy you will. Even industry insiders are starting to acknowledge that VC, despite making a very good looking, graphically appealing product, has far too many bugs in their products for their own good. And this after RELEASING EARLY for NBA and NFL 2K5?

                                If VC's games were PC games, they'd require more patching than Sonny Corleone did before his funeral service. Unfortunately, that kind of patching is rarely done on consoles. Especially on PS2.

                                Hold BOTH companies to the same standard of quality on their games. This "underdog" worship no-matter-what that some of you practice is pathetic.

                                Try to be objective and take off the $20 blinders. Most of us would GLADLY pay $50 for VC's games IF they had less bugs. As it stands, its a darn good thing they are a mere $20 bones.
                                Last edited by quietcool72; 10-15-2004, 08:56 PM. Reason: grammar

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