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Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside
Nope, not the least. I am just stating the facts. I dont take these boards that seriously. Its a place to discuss issues. I know some people get upset when you state an opinion that differs from theirs, and they make comments like yours. Read my post, I dont call names, or make explicit statements. I just give my thoughts on the topic of the thread.Originally posted by eddie67
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Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside
Nope, not the least. I am just stating the facts. I dont take these boards that seriously. Its a place to discuss issues. I know some people get upset when you state an opinion that differs from theirs, and they make comments like yours. Read my post, I dont call names, or make explicit statements. I just give my thoughts on the topic of the thread.Originally posted by eddie67What a negative depressed soul. It's a video game for christ sake
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Well it's the best basketball game ever made. The T/O bug only affects you if you play the association AND you have a close game. I've yet to have a close enough game where I thought the computer needed a time out to beat me by one. When that situation happens, im willing to let it slide because it's the best looking game, the animations are great, and everything else is so polished.Originally posted by NoleFanSo, is the timeout thing so much of a problem that someone without XBL shouldn't even spend the 20 bucks on it? I sure am not going to buy the game and XBL to fix the game.
I think it's worth getting XBL because XBL is a great service, not to fix a game.Comment
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Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside
Well it's the best basketball game ever made. The T/O bug only affects you if you play the association AND you have a close game. I've yet to have a close enough game where I thought the computer needed a time out to beat me by one. When that situation happens, im willing to let it slide because it's the best looking game, the animations are great, and everything else is so polished.Originally posted by NoleFanSo, is the timeout thing so much of a problem that someone without XBL shouldn't even spend the 20 bucks on it? I sure am not going to buy the game and XBL to fix the game.
I think it's worth getting XBL because XBL is a great service, not to fix a game.Comment
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I think I have a possible "fix" to this issue... ive been reading this thread (yes my eyes hurt), and ive come up with a few options.... ive just pulled ideas from a few who posted on here about the issue..
Ok, we get 6 TO's a game... now considering the fact i only use like 3 or 4 a game that still leaves 2 for the comp. i can already hear people saying "im not usin my to's for the comp", but if u think about it its not all that bad an idea.. say ure on a 8-15 point run, if u think the comp would call a to in that situation, then when u get the ball back just take the to.... they will still have 1 left (if u use the 4/2 to ratio). Next, if its late in the game and u want them to have a shot at a tying shot to make it more interesting then take "their last to" for them... i kno it sux we have to do this and up until about 20 mins a go i was gonna sell it n pay the difference for live, but in all honesty the game is smooth.... and im gonna TRY to enjoy the game for all its faults... and yea i enjoy nfl 2k5 for its faults to (clipping bug etc...), im speaking on a non biased level, i say this because i had all major ea sports titles last year and this year i just felt the need for a solid sim instead of arcade like features.... the only ea game i purchased this year was mvp and the lefty glitch was tough but its just that a glitch...
im not sticking up for the testers cause its a simple feature that went over looked, but by no means is it a game killer if u just take a deep breath n try the to scenario... thanx for hearin my 2 cents n please dont bash me lol... laterz guysTwitch Username: CEspo723Comment
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Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside
I think I have a possible "fix" to this issue... ive been reading this thread (yes my eyes hurt), and ive come up with a few options.... ive just pulled ideas from a few who posted on here about the issue..
Ok, we get 6 TO's a game... now considering the fact i only use like 3 or 4 a game that still leaves 2 for the comp. i can already hear people saying "im not usin my to's for the comp", but if u think about it its not all that bad an idea.. say ure on a 8-15 point run, if u think the comp would call a to in that situation, then when u get the ball back just take the to.... they will still have 1 left (if u use the 4/2 to ratio). Next, if its late in the game and u want them to have a shot at a tying shot to make it more interesting then take "their last to" for them... i kno it sux we have to do this and up until about 20 mins a go i was gonna sell it n pay the difference for live, but in all honesty the game is smooth.... and im gonna TRY to enjoy the game for all its faults... and yea i enjoy nfl 2k5 for its faults to (clipping bug etc...), im speaking on a non biased level, i say this because i had all major ea sports titles last year and this year i just felt the need for a solid sim instead of arcade like features.... the only ea game i purchased this year was mvp and the lefty glitch was tough but its just that a glitch...
im not sticking up for the testers cause its a simple feature that went over looked, but by no means is it a game killer if u just take a deep breath n try the to scenario... thanx for hearin my 2 cents n please dont bash me lol... laterz guysTwitch Username: CEspo723Comment
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Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside
It all depends on whether or not $20 for exhibition games and a street mode are worth it to you. Personally, 24/7 is useless to me. I have NBA Street 2, and that's all I need. I don't want that in an NBA game that's supposed to be a simulation. Hell, it's more polished overall than the actual game (IMHO). Judging by your "fix the game" comment, it's obvious you see the TO thing as a big issue in Franchise.Originally posted by NoleFanSo, is the timeout thing so much of a problem that someone without XBL shouldn't even spend the 20 bucks on it? I sure am not going to buy the game and XBL to fix the game.
Here's my final take on the game. If I've posted this before, my apologies; I sincerely do NOT remember....
That's right. Of course, this is IMO but ESPN beats Live when it comes to multiplayer. I've been having an absolute blast with this game against friends.
Of course, on the other hand, if you're only playing the CPU then you have to go with Live. There are just TOO MANY ridiculous problems with it's Franchise and CPU AI. You'll see the CPU do some really stupid things, even on the highest difficulty level. (You'll see SOME in Live as well, but nowhere near the level of ESPN) Here are just some problems that plague the one-player game:
-Lack of CPU 3 pt. attempts. They are almost never shot by the CPU. People commenting how you should "ease up on defense" to force the CPU to shoot 3's is ridiculous. It doesn't even help most of the time! *Note-some are saying this isn't an issue for them. I'm seeing it however...*
-Lack of CPU timeouts. By default, Sega has the CPU timeout setting at Manual. MANUAL! How the hell is the CPU supposed to call timeouts and play strategically?! This can be changed in Exhibition, but not in Franchise. Completely destroys any chance of close strategic wins by the CPU.
-Low scoring Superstars in Franchise. You're telling me all of a sudden no one can ever score more than 25 ppg in the NBA after a year or two?
-Player Personality is predictable after a few times messing with it.
It stinks, it really does. I really wanted to like this game for one-player because it does so much well. Graphics are amazing... gameplay seems DECENT at best, and I can work with it... but dumb CPU AI with no late game strategy? Yikes....
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Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside
It all depends on whether or not $20 for exhibition games and a street mode are worth it to you. Personally, 24/7 is useless to me. I have NBA Street 2, and that's all I need. I don't want that in an NBA game that's supposed to be a simulation. Hell, it's more polished overall than the actual game (IMHO). Judging by your "fix the game" comment, it's obvious you see the TO thing as a big issue in Franchise.Originally posted by NoleFanSo, is the timeout thing so much of a problem that someone without XBL shouldn't even spend the 20 bucks on it? I sure am not going to buy the game and XBL to fix the game.
Here's my final take on the game. If I've posted this before, my apologies; I sincerely do NOT remember....
That's right. Of course, this is IMO but ESPN beats Live when it comes to multiplayer. I've been having an absolute blast with this game against friends.
Of course, on the other hand, if you're only playing the CPU then you have to go with Live. There are just TOO MANY ridiculous problems with it's Franchise and CPU AI. You'll see the CPU do some really stupid things, even on the highest difficulty level. (You'll see SOME in Live as well, but nowhere near the level of ESPN) Here are just some problems that plague the one-player game:
-Lack of CPU 3 pt. attempts. They are almost never shot by the CPU. People commenting how you should "ease up on defense" to force the CPU to shoot 3's is ridiculous. It doesn't even help most of the time! *Note-some are saying this isn't an issue for them. I'm seeing it however...*
-Lack of CPU timeouts. By default, Sega has the CPU timeout setting at Manual. MANUAL! How the hell is the CPU supposed to call timeouts and play strategically?! This can be changed in Exhibition, but not in Franchise. Completely destroys any chance of close strategic wins by the CPU.
-Low scoring Superstars in Franchise. You're telling me all of a sudden no one can ever score more than 25 ppg in the NBA after a year or two?
-Player Personality is predictable after a few times messing with it.
It stinks, it really does. I really wanted to like this game for one-player because it does so much well. Graphics are amazing... gameplay seems DECENT at best, and I can work with it... but dumb CPU AI with no late game strategy? Yikes....
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Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside
I have beeing doing that in my games...
My rule is to call a timeout whenever I go on a 10 points-in-a-row run, I'll call a TO for the computer.
But there's a big problem with your idea... as far as the end of the game is concerned: You have to be in posession of the ball to call a TO. So if you score and the computer gets the ball with like 4 seconds on the other end of the court, well you can't do anything about it. They won't be able to get a TO to push it upcourt.
On a positive note, I have yet to have that situation at the end of a close game anyway and for that reason I consider this bug a huge, but bearable problem
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Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside
I have beeing doing that in my games...
My rule is to call a timeout whenever I go on a 10 points-in-a-row run, I'll call a TO for the computer.
But there's a big problem with your idea... as far as the end of the game is concerned: You have to be in posession of the ball to call a TO. So if you score and the computer gets the ball with like 4 seconds on the other end of the court, well you can't do anything about it. They won't be able to get a TO to push it upcourt.
On a positive note, I have yet to have that situation at the end of a close game anyway and for that reason I consider this bug a huge, but bearable problem
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Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside
People need to realize it was a small mistake due to the fact that these QA testers play each other not the CPU. If the QA guys were playing the CPU they would've found the CPU timeout settings was wrong too.Originally posted by kirkangilDid you guys see the list of people in the q&a dept in the back of the book? Its huge! Its 67 people, how does this, and some of the other small glitches get past 67 people? I just dont get it, maybe they didnt have time to fix it or something, i dont know.
You can do 4 things about the timeout mistake. 1. Play other human players only. 2. Play online. 3. At the begining of each game set the CPU timeouts to AUTO. 4. SHUT UP THE GAME IS ONLY $20.Comment
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Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside
People need to realize it was a small mistake due to the fact that these QA testers play each other not the CPU. If the QA guys were playing the CPU they would've found the CPU timeout settings was wrong too.Originally posted by kirkangilDid you guys see the list of people in the q&a dept in the back of the book? Its huge! Its 67 people, how does this, and some of the other small glitches get past 67 people? I just dont get it, maybe they didnt have time to fix it or something, i dont know.
You can do 4 things about the timeout mistake. 1. Play other human players only. 2. Play online. 3. At the begining of each game set the CPU timeouts to AUTO. 4. SHUT UP THE GAME IS ONLY $20.Comment
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Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside
Funny, you make that post, then when people say this game REALLY IS WORTH $20 it's the worst comment in the world, they're a fanboy, etc...Originally posted by sportsgeist4. SHUT UP THE GAME IS ONLY $20.
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Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside
Funny, you make that post, then when people say this game REALLY IS WORTH $20 it's the worst comment in the world, they're a fanboy, etc...Originally posted by sportsgeist4. SHUT UP THE GAME IS ONLY $20.
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Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside
the timeout problem stems from association only, but for alot of people that dont go online (myself included) it hurts the appeal of the game.. but im tryin to make the most of it... i work but not made of money so the 20$ is appealing to me... i just wish theyd gimme a finished product 75% of the time... eh thats what we deal withTwitch Username: CEspo723Comment

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