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  • Tha_Kid
    All Star
    • Oct 2002
    • 6550

    #421
    Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

    Originally posted by KDRE
    No, I started the game with CPU vs CPU then switched and set the opposing team to auto , then moved the controller to the team I wanted to play with. It's not to big of a deal.

    You lost hope over that?? LOL man
    If you start out you vs the CPU and then switch the CPU to 2p and change the timeouts and set it back to Cpu, you can keep user records...

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    • spankdatazz22
      All Star
      • May 2003
      • 6219

      #422
      Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

      Originally posted by OneBadMutha
      The bottom line, if the corporate guys gave a sh##, they'd release a recall. If the point of the $20 price tag this year is to capture market share for the future, then they need to get this right. The bottom line is that the glitches in this game are severe. The time-out bug is not excusable. I don't know how some of you insist on saying it's no big deal. It's no big deal to casual gamers however VC advertised this as the most realistic game and with this bug, there's no way it's a sim...bottom line.
      A recall is way too extreme - some people don't even TOUCH franchise. You have to look at the broader picture. What if someone discovers another bug somewhere after the game is "rereleased"? Do ANOTHER recall? C'mon. A patch is far more practical, if possible. If EA didn't fix the quicksand glitch, which had the potential to taint every game played, then there shouldn't be a call to recall this game.

      As far as the TO bug being inexcusable, don't forget that there were also people like IGN and Gamespot, at least, that had betas of the game and none of them noticed the lack of CPU timeouts either. Well, IGN's credibility is shot anyway. But just saying - it's not the most obvious thing to spot, much like the quicksand glitch. Although I do feel the quicksand glitch is more obscure.
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      • spankdatazz22
        All Star
        • May 2003
        • 6219

        #423
        Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

        Originally posted by OneBadMutha
        The bottom line, if the corporate guys gave a sh##, they'd release a recall. If the point of the $20 price tag this year is to capture market share for the future, then they need to get this right. The bottom line is that the glitches in this game are severe. The time-out bug is not excusable. I don't know how some of you insist on saying it's no big deal. It's no big deal to casual gamers however VC advertised this as the most realistic game and with this bug, there's no way it's a sim...bottom line.
        A recall is way too extreme - some people don't even TOUCH franchise. You have to look at the broader picture. What if someone discovers another bug somewhere after the game is "rereleased"? Do ANOTHER recall? C'mon. A patch is far more practical, if possible. If EA didn't fix the quicksand glitch, which had the potential to taint every game played, then there shouldn't be a call to recall this game.

        As far as the TO bug being inexcusable, don't forget that there were also people like IGN and Gamespot, at least, that had betas of the game and none of them noticed the lack of CPU timeouts either. Well, IGN's credibility is shot anyway. But just saying - it's not the most obvious thing to spot, much like the quicksand glitch. Although I do feel the quicksand glitch is more obscure.
        HBO's "The Wire" should rank as one of the top 10 shows EVER on tv - period

        XBL gamertag: d0meBreaker22 (that's a zero)

        congrats Steelers, city of Pittsburgh, and Steeler Nation - SIX TIME WORLD CHAMPS

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        • toneloc99
          Pro
          • Jan 2003
          • 824

          #424
          Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

          TO bug is not some hidden bug it is pretty obvious to spot after a few games of the CPU calling NO TIMEOUTS. Poor testing by VC lead to this, whoever is the lead developer should be ashamed.

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          • toneloc99
            Pro
            • Jan 2003
            • 824

            #425
            Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

            TO bug is not some hidden bug it is pretty obvious to spot after a few games of the CPU calling NO TIMEOUTS. Poor testing by VC lead to this, whoever is the lead developer should be ashamed.

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            • kaydigi
              MVP
              • Nov 2002
              • 1432

              #426
              Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

              Originally posted by toneloc99
              TO bug is not some hidden bug it is pretty obvious to spot after a few games of the CPU calling NO TIMEOUTS. Poor testing by VC lead to this, whoever is the lead developer should be ashamed.
              Noticed it during my first game, as did others .

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              • kaydigi
                MVP
                • Nov 2002
                • 1432

                #427
                Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

                Originally posted by toneloc99
                TO bug is not some hidden bug it is pretty obvious to spot after a few games of the CPU calling NO TIMEOUTS. Poor testing by VC lead to this, whoever is the lead developer should be ashamed.
                Noticed it during my first game, as did others .

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                • spankdatazz22
                  All Star
                  • May 2003
                  • 6219

                  #428
                  Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

                  Originally posted by toneloc99
                  TO bug is not some hidden bug it is pretty obvious to spot after a few games of the CPU calling NO TIMEOUTS. Poor testing by VC lead to this, whoever is the lead developer should be ashamed.
                  Lol. If it's that obvious, why didn't anyone w/the beta discover it? Not trying to excuse them, but geez! There's a lot in the game that's done really well and all some people can harp on is how "unforgiveable" not finding this bug is. It's getting more and more depressing to come here... Perhaps I need a self-imposed break.

                  I can only imagine how ridiculous things may get when the baseball games come out.
                  HBO's "The Wire" should rank as one of the top 10 shows EVER on tv - period

                  XBL gamertag: d0meBreaker22 (that's a zero)

                  congrats Steelers, city of Pittsburgh, and Steeler Nation - SIX TIME WORLD CHAMPS

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                  • spankdatazz22
                    All Star
                    • May 2003
                    • 6219

                    #429
                    Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

                    Originally posted by toneloc99
                    TO bug is not some hidden bug it is pretty obvious to spot after a few games of the CPU calling NO TIMEOUTS. Poor testing by VC lead to this, whoever is the lead developer should be ashamed.
                    Lol. If it's that obvious, why didn't anyone w/the beta discover it? Not trying to excuse them, but geez! There's a lot in the game that's done really well and all some people can harp on is how "unforgiveable" not finding this bug is. It's getting more and more depressing to come here... Perhaps I need a self-imposed break.

                    I can only imagine how ridiculous things may get when the baseball games come out.
                    HBO's "The Wire" should rank as one of the top 10 shows EVER on tv - period

                    XBL gamertag: d0meBreaker22 (that's a zero)

                    congrats Steelers, city of Pittsburgh, and Steeler Nation - SIX TIME WORLD CHAMPS

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                    • charles167
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 890

                      #430
                      Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

                      Originally posted by spankdatazz22
                      Lol. If it's that obvious, why didn't anyone w/the beta discover it? Not trying to excuse them, but geez! There's a lot in the game that's done really well and all some people can harp on is how "unforgiveable" not finding this bug is. It's getting more and more depressing to come here... Perhaps I need a self-imposed break.

                      I can only imagine how ridiculous things may get when the baseball games come out.
                      I think you are missing the point. Yes its only one thing, but a major one thing. Timeout are like stategy in hoops. Imagine playing NFL 2K5 and you are driving with time left late in the game and CPU doesnt call timeout to try and help himself win.

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                      • charles167
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 890

                        #431
                        Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

                        Originally posted by spankdatazz22
                        Lol. If it's that obvious, why didn't anyone w/the beta discover it? Not trying to excuse them, but geez! There's a lot in the game that's done really well and all some people can harp on is how "unforgiveable" not finding this bug is. It's getting more and more depressing to come here... Perhaps I need a self-imposed break.

                        I can only imagine how ridiculous things may get when the baseball games come out.
                        I think you are missing the point. Yes its only one thing, but a major one thing. Timeout are like stategy in hoops. Imagine playing NFL 2K5 and you are driving with time left late in the game and CPU doesnt call timeout to try and help himself win.

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                        • spankdatazz22
                          All Star
                          • May 2003
                          • 6219

                          #432
                          Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

                          Originally posted by charles167
                          I think you are missing the point. Yes its only one thing, but a major one thing. Timeout are like stategy in hoops. Imagine playing NFL 2K5 and you are driving with time left late in the game and CPU doesnt call timeout to try and help himself win.
                          Bad example. The CPU has horrible time management in ESPN2k5. I love it to death, but it'll call all of it's timeouts in succession without really trying to manage the clock. Or it won't call timeouts when it should. The game logic is great except for the last two minutes of halves. But people live with it.

                          The time management in Madden is devious (well done). But the lack of player interaction kills the gameplay for me. I guess to each his own. I just tire of people saying "This is unforgiveable!", or comments such as that, or harping on every... little... thing they find to be wrong with the game.
                          HBO's "The Wire" should rank as one of the top 10 shows EVER on tv - period

                          XBL gamertag: d0meBreaker22 (that's a zero)

                          congrats Steelers, city of Pittsburgh, and Steeler Nation - SIX TIME WORLD CHAMPS

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                          • spankdatazz22
                            All Star
                            • May 2003
                            • 6219

                            #433
                            Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

                            Originally posted by charles167
                            I think you are missing the point. Yes its only one thing, but a major one thing. Timeout are like stategy in hoops. Imagine playing NFL 2K5 and you are driving with time left late in the game and CPU doesnt call timeout to try and help himself win.
                            Bad example. The CPU has horrible time management in ESPN2k5. I love it to death, but it'll call all of it's timeouts in succession without really trying to manage the clock. Or it won't call timeouts when it should. The game logic is great except for the last two minutes of halves. But people live with it.

                            The time management in Madden is devious (well done). But the lack of player interaction kills the gameplay for me. I guess to each his own. I just tire of people saying "This is unforgiveable!", or comments such as that, or harping on every... little... thing they find to be wrong with the game.
                            HBO's "The Wire" should rank as one of the top 10 shows EVER on tv - period

                            XBL gamertag: d0meBreaker22 (that's a zero)

                            congrats Steelers, city of Pittsburgh, and Steeler Nation - SIX TIME WORLD CHAMPS

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                            • charles167
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 890

                              #434
                              Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

                              Originally posted by spankdatazz22
                              The game logic is great except for the last two minutes of halves. But people live with it.
                              You are kidding right?!?!!

                              Isnt that when time management is crucial to a game?[/QUOTE]

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                              • charles167
                                Banned
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 890

                                #435
                                Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

                                Originally posted by spankdatazz22
                                The game logic is great except for the last two minutes of halves. But people live with it.
                                You are kidding right?!?!!

                                Isnt that when time management is crucial to a game?[/QUOTE]

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