Dribble Move & Finish Move tendency update

[CD90]

Re: Dribble Move & Finish Move tendency update

Do i need a google-docs Account?
Or maybe your link is not correct?

the spreadsheet with all of the work

All of the work = everything the latest Xbox-roster version has or really everything?

(can't open the doc )


Thank you for not letting the PS3 guys down

[AMB]

Re: Dribble Move & Finish Move tendency update

Pacers(CPU) Vs Bulls(USER)

92 Points 107*
32/88 Field Goals 33/85*
36% Field Goal % 38%*
4/14 3 Pointers 7/23*
28% 3 Pointer % 30%*
*24/28 Free Throws 34/42
*85% Free Throw % 80%
17 Assists 20*
13 Turnovers 12*
23 Team Fouls 17*
52 Total Rebounds 59*
5 Offensive Rebounds 7*
*11 Steals 9
1 Blocks 2*
28 Points In The Paint 34
22 Bench Points 25*
4 Second Chance Points 7*
6 Fast Break Points 6

Game Notes

-First thing I noticed was how the players movement felt a bit sluggish
-Both teams missed some dunks but only a few made me wonder
-Layups in traffic rarely went in. (even with Rose)
-Granger did not get enough touches
-Rose did major damage at the free throw line 26/29. FG 6/23. 0/6 from 3

[pabby21]

Re: Dribble Move & Finish Move tendency update

first half down of a game im playing:

Cavs vs Celtics (me)

20/40 Field Goals 18/42
50% FG% 42%
3/5 3 pointers 4/8
60% 3P% 50%
13/18 Free Throws 16/20
72% FT% 80%
14 assists 10
9 TO's 4
11 team fouls 9
24 total rebounds 16
2 Orebounds 2
3 steals 5
2 blocks 6
20 points in paint 10
20 bench points 19
9 second chance points 2 (these are killing me, they go beast mode when they get the o board)
2 fast break points 2

Ill now go in to the coach profiles and make the adjustments you asked us to test

[chia51]

Re: Dribble Move & Finish Move tendency update

Do i need a google-docs Account?
Or maybe your link is not correct?
All of the work = everything the latest Xbox-roster version has or really everything?
(can't open the doc )
Thank you for not letting the PS3 guys down

Put new link up also I think I had it set to block for everyone ... try again. It has all of the coaching sliders, shot ratings and tendencies, dunks for all players. I still need to add Verticals, Free Throws, Strength and a couple others from DC.

Pacers(CPU) Vs Bulls(USER)

92 Points 107*
32/88 Field Goals 33/85*
36% Field Goal % 38%*
4/14 3 Pointers 7/23*
28% 3 Pointer % 30%*
*24/28 Free Throws 34/42
*85% Free Throw % 80%
17 Assists 20*
13 Turnovers 12*
23 Team Fouls 17*
52 Total Rebounds 59*
5 Offensive Rebounds 7*
*11 Steals 9
1 Blocks 2*
28 Points In The Paint 34
22 Bench Points 25*
4 Second Chance Points 7*
6 Fast Break Points 6

Game Notes

-First thing I noticed was how the players movement felt a bit sluggish
-Both teams missed some dunks but only a few made me wonder
-Layups in traffic rarely went in. (even with Rose)
-Granger did not get enough touches
-Rose did major damage at the free throw line 26/29. FG 6/23. 0/6 from 3

Is this with the latest roster and slider set? Seems like you didn't take any mid range J's with Rose only 3's and drives to the rack.

What do you consider traffic? One guy, two, three? I am not having a problem laying it in with Rose as long as the whole other team isn't there. Use his Eurostep layup when you get in there, it works wonders.

first half down of a game im playing:

Cavs vs Celtics (me)

20/40 Field Goals 18/42
50% FG% 42%
3/5 3 pointers 4/8
60% 3P% 50%
13/18 Free Throws 16/20
72% FT% 80%
14 assists 10
9 TO's 4
11 team fouls 9
24 total rebounds 16
2 Orebounds 2
3 steals 5
2 blocks 6
20 points in paint 10
20 bench points 19
9 second chance points 2 (these are killing me, they go beast mode when they get the o board)
2 fast break points 2

Ill now go in to the coach profiles and make the adjustments you asked us to test

Thank you sir.

Notes: I am still working the foul situation at the moment. It is really going to come down to play style. I try to mix my shots... but I go to who's hot. I don't attack the rack every possession either... if its open then I will go, but if not I try and get the open jumper.

If you go to the rack every time down court your going to get 40 free throws a game, unfortunately. Right now I am working a balance between driving and getting some calls and some no calls.

[CD90]

Re: Dribble Move & Finish Move tendency update

Now it works


Wow, thats huge. So many data.

[AMB]

Re: Dribble Move & Finish Move tendency update

Yes they were the most recent on 2k share
I was really trying to get some layups to fall without getting fouled
I certainly utilized all layup moves

It was a good feel as far as match ups and how they played out.
(no throwing food necessary)

[atlplayboy23]

Re: Dribble Move & Finish Move tendency update

Thanks Chia question what does SOD mean on the shooting ratings sheet

[chia51]

Re: Dribble Move & Finish Move tendency update

Yes they were the most recent on 2k share
I was really trying to get some layups to fall without getting fouled
I certainly utilized all layup moves

It was a good feel as far as match ups and how they played out.
(no throwing food necessary)

Like I said I am still working the fouls.

Now it works Wow, thats huge. So many data.

Thanks

Thanks Chia question what does SOD mean on the shooting ratings sheet

Shoot off dribble.


Also I just re-uploaded another slider set with some foul tweaks.

[PaperBoyx703]

Re: Dribble Move & Finish Move tendency update

Ok im new to the whole file share stuff with 2K, bc i just normally play with the stuff that gets automatically updating and nothing else. but how do I get these updates?

Is it like two different things i need to download like tendencies and rosters or is it like one thing i should look for?

[pabby21]

Re: Dribble Move & Finish Move tendency update

after playing the second half with the adjustments I didn't really notice a huge difference.....they still played a really blanced array of shots.....if anything, maybe the PG didn't hold it and be all stagnent as long as they did in the first half.

full game stats:

cavs VC Celtics (me)

116 points 107
45/93 Field Goals 32/89
48% Field Goal% 35%
7/14 3 pointers 8/19
50% 3 pointer 42%
19/29 free throws 35/43
65% free throw % 81%
33 assists 17
12 TO's 7
25 team fouls 15
58 total rebounds 40
8 Orebounds 5
5 steals 7
6 blocks 11
46 points in the pain 28
37 bench points 46
13 second chance points 8
12 fast break points 4

my shooting went to hell in the last qtr while they just didn't miss......it must be the all star logic because cavs were blow for blow with me and as the C's I should of been able to destroy them.....

[chia51]

Re: Dribble Move & Finish Move tendency update

Ok im new to the whole file share stuff with 2K, bc i just normally play with the stuff that gets automatically updating and nothing else. but how do I get these updates?

Is it like two different things i need to download like tendencies and rosters or is it like one thing i should look for?

for the ps3 its not on 2k share ... only 360 for now.

after playing the second half with the adjustments I didn't really notice a huge difference.....they still played a really blanced array of shots.....if anything, maybe the PG didn't hold it and be all stagnent as long as they did in the first half.

full game stats:

cavs VC Celtics (me)

116 points 107
45/93 Field Goals 32/89
48% Field Goal% 35%
7/14 3 pointers 8/19
50% 3 pointer 42%
19/29 free throws 35/43
65% free throw % 81%
33 assists 17
12 TO's 7
25 team fouls 15
58 total rebounds 40
8 Orebounds 5
5 steals 7
6 blocks 11
46 points in the pain 28
37 bench points 46
13 second chance points 8
12 fast break points 4

my shooting went to hell in the last qtr while they just didn't miss......it must be the all star logic because cavs were blow for blow with me and as the C's I should of been able to destroy them.....

I noticed the same thing... seemed like they were a bit quicker on who to pass to for a shot. Other than that I did not notice anything much different.

I am still seeing to many user FT attempts and CPU attempts (slightly).

Pabby, being the C's you got to dominate inside with KG and Shaq and when they double kick it out to Ray Ray and Pierce. The Cavs have nobody inside to stop KG.

Note: I am still tweaking shot sliders to try and get around 40-45% for CPU and USER.

Note: If you start to get down in the game, take a few t/o and get settled. Also that will get whoever is hot to cool down as well. Then work a good shot. 2k is notorious for the huge runs.

Note: DC plays with clutch off, I do not. I personally don't notice anything.

Note: PS3 guys I added, Vert/Str/Potential tab to the spreadsheet.

[PaperBoyx703]

Re: Dribble Move & Finish Move tendency update

for the ps3 its not on 2k share ... only 360 for now.

Okay thanks.

[chia51]

Re: Dribble Move & Finish Move tendency update

Okay thanks.

I did link the spreadsheet with all the work for the Ps3 users. You would just have to input everything into a roster.

[ric4s]

Re: Dribble Move & Finish Move tendency update

I just re-uploaded the newest set.

I am testing a coaching slider theory out now.


What I ask of you guys playing is to do this for me.

Play the first half with the coaching sliders that I got setup there. In the 2nd half add 50 to all of the shooting sliders in the coaches profile for the CPU. So if they had 32 for inside, it would now be 82, etc. (you will have to pause, switch teams, change it, then switch back) and let me know if you see any difference in their shot locations.

With latest Roster and Sliders (Adjusted USER shooting to 50 for Inside, Close, Mid-Range and 3PT Success.) I play Real % and Auto DEF and Auto play calling.

Boston (CPU) v Miami (Me)

First Half
51 Points 42
18/45 Field Goals 14/44
40% % 31%
3/6 3 PTS 1/7
50% 3 Point% 14%
12/14 Free Throws 13/19
85% % 68%
13 Assists 8
6 Turnovers 5
10 Team Fouls 8
28 Total Rebounds 26
3 Offensive 4
5 Steals 4
2 Blocks 3
12 Points in the Paint 16
14 Bench Points 16
5 Second Chance Points 2
4 Fast Break Points 0

Second Half with Coaching Slider Shooting +50
57 Points 47
21/48 Field Goals 14/39
43% % 35%
2/7 3 PTS 1/4
28% 3 Point% 25%
13/14 Free Throws 18/19
92% % 94%
14 Assists 10
4 Turnovers 10
10 Team Fouls 8
26 Total Rebounds 24
4 Offensive 1
8 Steals 3
1 Blocks 2
18 Points in the Paint 12
15 Bench Points 8
4 Second Chance Points 2
4 Fast Break Points 2


Total Game
108 Points 89
39/93 Field Goals 28/83
41% % 33%
5/13 3 PTS 2/11
38% 3 Point% 18%
25/28 Free Throws 31/38
89% % 91%
27 Assists 18
10 Turnovers 15
20 Team Fouls 16
54 Total Rebounds 50
7 Offensive 5
13 Steals 7
3 Blocks 5
30 Points in the Paint 28
29 Bench Points 16
9 Second Chance Points 4
8 Fast Break Points 2

[CD90]

Re: Dribble Move & Finish Move tendency update

Maybe you (chia, DC, Hyperballer) should edit the shooting attributes.

I think you should input the Ast% in your formula for every shot.
Lower/Higher Ast% should give a rating boost/drop.

example:
Look at Mozgov and Billups' Midrange Rating. (72, 68)
Mozgov has an Ast% of 100, Billups has only 36%
Billups has to create his own shot, while a player like Mozgov tries to get open and nock the jumper down. He does hit with a better %.
But does this make him better than Billups who has to create on his own?
I don't think so.
In this case their ratings are close together, but there are other examples.
Horford and J.Johnson are separated by almost 20 points!

I'm just trying to help/understand