Understanding slider coefficients

[JasonWilliams55]

Re: Understanding slider coefficients

BTW, only bump these attributes that you identified, right?

Dunk
Ball Sec
Handles
Block
Steal
Both REBs
Both AWRs
Strength
Vert
SOD and SIT
Quickness
Hustle
Hands
On Ball Def
Standing Dunk

Yep, SOD and SIT you cant change though.

[Po Pimp]

Re: Understanding slider coefficients

Playing on the All Star difficulty, I've gotten the sliders as close as possible to replicating the players' actual rating. Only changed the CPU's sliders.

It's impossible to get the following sliders exact. You're either gonna be over (green) or under (red) by 1:
Handles 46 (in the red since security can't be changed)
Strength 47 (green)
Security (green, can't be changed)
On ball defense 47 (green)

The following sliders, you will get the exact ratings:
Hands 43
Offensive/defensive awareness 40

Everything else, I left at 50.

[JasonWilliams55]

Re: Understanding slider coefficients

Playing on the All Star difficulty, I've gotten the sliders as close as possible to replicating the players' actual rating. Only changed the CPU's sliders.

It's impossible to get the following sliders exact. You're either gonna be over (green) or under (red) by 1:
Handles 46 (in the red since security can't be changed)
Strength 47 (green)
Security (green, can't be changed)
On ball defense 47 (green)

The following sliders, you will get the exact ratings:
Hands 43
Offensive/defensive awareness 40

Everything else, I left at 50.

Hands I believe if you keep lowering it will reduce ball security. Doing so, will also have the affect of the CPU not tipping so many passes on defense. So in order to counter that, you could always raise play passing lanes.

[EccentricMeat]

Re: Understanding slider coefficients

Yep, SOD and SIT you cant change though.

To counter that, you could just raise/lower the Gather/Takeoff Defense Strength sliders to lower shooting % off the dribble and raise/lower the Release Defense Strength sliders to lower shooting % in traffic.

[JasonWilliams55]

Re: Understanding slider coefficients

To counter that, you could just raise/lower the Gather/Takeoff Defense Strength sliders to lower shooting % off the dribble and raise/lower the Release Defense Strength sliders to lower shooting % in traffic.

I agree, even though its not 100% confirmed by 2k.

[AdamBa17]

Re: Understanding slider coefficients

This is all great and everything, very interesting, but rather than me having to piece together a slider set from a hundred different replies about different aspects, can the OP just post what the right sliders would be for each diff level?

I know you might want me to work that out myself as you have given all the information, but my brain isn't powerful enough.

If you can't be bothered to do them all can you just do All Star? I get that you're saying you will have to be -.5 or +1, so +4 clicks for +1 (on all star) or +3 for -.5.

I think it would just be more legible to have ONE post with a slider set for example. Unless I'm missing that there's already been one?

[Kully]

Re: Understanding slider coefficients

Playing on the All Star difficulty, I've gotten the sliders as close as possible to replicating the players' actual rating. Only changed the CPU's sliders.

It's impossible to get the following sliders exact. You're either gonna be over (green) or under (red) by 1:
Handles 46 (in the red since security can't be changed)
Strength 47 (green)
Security (green, can't be changed)
On ball defense 47 (green)

The following sliders, you will get the exact ratings:
Hands 43
Offensive/defensive awareness 40

Everything else, I left at 50.

May I se eyour settings Po Pimp, if possible?

[papaey]

Re: Understanding slider coefficients

This is all great and everything, very interesting, but rather than me having to piece together a slider set from a hundred different replies about different aspects, can the OP just post what the right sliders would be for each diff level?

I know you might want me to work that out myself as you have given all the information, but my brain isn't powerful enough.

If you can't be bothered to do them all can you just do All Star? I get that you're saying you will have to be -.5 or +1, so +4 clicks for +1 (on all star) or +3 for -.5.

I think it would just be more legible to have ONE post with a slider set for example. Unless I'm missing that there's already been one?

All Star set
quickness 47
vertical 47
strength 47
stamina 50
speed 47
durability 50
hustle 47
ball handling 47
hands 43
dunking ability 47
onball defense 47
stealing 47
blocking 47
OA 40
DA 40
OR 47
DR 47
Consistency 50
Fatigue rate 57
Injury Freq 50
Injury Sev. 50

this will just result +1 to those affected att and +4/5 to SIT and SOD. you can actually get their actual rating in rookie and HOF however those two adjustable att will either be red or green depending on the diff you choose, -10 in rookie and +12 in hof. not so accurate with the boost but its something like that.

[AdamBa17]

Re: Understanding slider coefficients

All Star set
quickness 47
vertical 47
strength 47
stamina 50
speed 47
durability 50
hustle 47
ball handling 47
hands 43
dunking ability 47
onball defense 47
stealing 47
blocking 47
OA 40
DA 40
OR 47
DR 47
Consistency 50
Fatigue rate 57
Injury Freq 50
Injury Sev. 50

this will just result +1 to those affected att and +4/5 to SIT and SOD. you can actually get their actual rating in rookie and HOF however those two adjustable att will either be red or green depending on the diff you choose, -10 in rookie and +12 in hof. not so accurate with the boost but its something like that.

Thank you so much for that. BTW what's SIT and SOD? Shoot in Traffic? And...

Wish I could rep you for that post. Sorry that I can't!

[DereckM]

Re: Understanding slider coefficients

I'm really confused on sod and sit. I'm trying to play on allstar. Can anyone help me with these settings?

[papaey]

Re: Understanding slider coefficients

Thank you so much for that. BTW what's SIT and SOD? Shoot in Traffic? And...

Wish I could rep you for that post. Sorry that I can't!

shoot off dribble.once you get the feel in all star, try it in HOF, played a game yesterday and i had step curry shoots 0/12 from the field even with the +10 in SIT/SOD.though its just one game.

[mango_prom]

Re: Understanding slider coefficients

Do these rating differences stay if you change teams in game? In other words, if I start a game with no team selected and pick one in game, do they still apply or can we somehow work around it?

[ffaacc03]

Re: Understanding slider coefficients

Do these rating differences stay if you change teams in game? In other words, if I start a game with no team selected and pick one in game, do they still apply or can we somehow work around it?

Sliders are dynamic in that respect ... you change a team and they change with you.

[DereckM]

Re: Understanding slider coefficients

Is there a difference in the way the sliders work between online and offline association modes? I do most off my testing offline but when I plug sliders in online they almost seem to work completely different. If so can someone point out the main differences?

[Po Pimp]

Re: Understanding slider coefficients

May I se eyour settings Po Pimp, if possible?

All Star/Sim Settings is the base.
Then I made the following changes (unless noted, changes are for CPU only):

Contact Shot Success - 47 or 48 (depends on whether you feel it's too easy to make shots. I found 45 made players miss the simplest of shots. This is for both user and CPU)

Strength - 47
Ball handling - 46
Hands -43
On ball defense - 47
Offense/defense Awareness - 40