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  • Jano
    You Dead Wrong
    • May 2004
    • 3161

    #76
    Re: Going live this year

    Originally posted by younggrease
    the thing about the 86 ratings for players is that they dont seem to accurately characterize the differences in characters..It seems like they just put numbers down and didnt implement the code for all of them....
    That would be true for 07 but this is 08 so, you can't accurately say that they haven't implemented the code for all the ratings when you yourself haven't seen every individual rating the game offers or better yet even tested to see if they make any impact on the game.

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    • mharlem
      Banned
      • Jul 2005
      • 137

      #77
      Re: Going live this year

      Originally posted by younggrease
      the thing about the 86 ratings for players is that they dont seem to accurately characterize the differences in characters..It seems like they just put numbers down and didnt implement the code for all of them....
      Actually it do, but EA did'nt do them right and thats why that dude Tomba is mad about it because him and Playmakers did the ratings over and they played just like their real life counterpart.
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      I downloaded these new ratings myself and they made a big difference.
      Last edited by mharlem; 09-10-2007, 12:10 AM.

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      • younggrease
        Pro
        • Oct 2005
        • 558

        #78
        Re: Going live this year

        Originally posted by Jano
        That would be true for 07 but this is 08 so, you can't accurately say that they haven't implemented the code for all the ratings when you yourself haven't seen every individual rating the game offers or better yet even tested to see if they make any impact on the game.
        I played with Lebron...that is nothing like Lebron...I played with Manu....thats nothing like Manu...

        All I know is on the demo...I can dominate the game on superstar throwing only alley opps...that did it for me..

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        • Jano
          You Dead Wrong
          • May 2004
          • 3161

          #79
          Re: Going live this year

          You keep saying they play nothing their real life counterparts do you mean that in terms of animations?

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          • younggrease
            Pro
            • Oct 2005
            • 558

            #80
            Re: Going live this year

            Originally posted by Jano
            You keep saying they play nothing their real life counterparts do you mean that in terms of animations?
            Yes...I just cant get over how bad the animations are...The whole thing just doesnt look right...Im not even talking about the rating yet...Just how the movements and shots are..They arent even close for guys like Gino and Lebron..

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            • Jano
              You Dead Wrong
              • May 2004
              • 3161

              #81
              Re: Going live this year

              Ok now I get what your saying and it is true but that can't be fixed with ratings. I'm just saying that with the ratings live has you can get the players to play like themselves when it comes to statistics not so much with animations.

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              • mharlem
                Banned
                • Jul 2005
                • 137

                #82
                Re: Going live this year

                Originally posted by Jano
                Ok now I get what your saying and it is true but that can't be fixed with ratings. I'm just saying that with the ratings live has you can get the players to play like themselves when it comes to statistics not so much with animations.
                The statistics play a big role in animations, but it dont affect how a player shoot a jumpshot.

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                • Jano
                  You Dead Wrong
                  • May 2004
                  • 3161

                  #83
                  Re: Going live this year

                  When I say statistics I mean things like the rebounds per game or points per game not ratings. And I know that the ratings won't effect how a player shoots a jumpshot that what I was talking about in my post above.

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                  • mharlem
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 137

                    #84
                    Re: Going live this year

                    Originally posted by Jano
                    When I say statistics I mean things like the rebounds per game or points per game not ratings. And I know that the ratings won't effect how a player shoots a jumpshot that what I was talking about in my post above.
                    My bad bro, I read it to fast.

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                    • Tha_Kid
                      All Star
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 6550

                      #85
                      Re: Going live this year

                      Originally posted by Alburt Poohole
                      Really???...So you already played 2k8???...I've seen 2k vids...It will probably be a good game...hell..its the same game since 2k5 so it better be good...I'm just tired of the same 2k every year...Players look like zombies and all have the same THICK body type slippin and slidin...Thats so old gen to me. Plus I want to play the game..Not have the game play me.
                      This is funny because while the things are there for 2k to be criticized about, you pick things already fixed. 2K8 has added variety to the player body models, as well as footplanting so the sliding is reduced to no more than what I see in the Live 08 demo. All these games have some automation in them, the EA fan argument of "2k games play the game for you" is flawed and wrong.

                      2k shouldve made a new engine, but they've finally managed to fix the issues with this one. I'll take that over a "new" engine thats still buggy.

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                      • Pared
                        Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 39337

                        #86
                        Re: Going live this year

                        Originally posted by BigTigLSU
                        This shouldnt be about 2k vs Live... Its not fair to come in and bash 2k because you feeling live right now. 2k series may have grown stale for what ever reasons, for some people, but be honest with your self if you need a change then make the change dont drag the ex girlfriend through the mud cause the skinny girl in class grew boobs during the summer.

                        I actually liked the demo for live the 2 times Ive played it. Does that mean I hate 2k sports? No!!! me liking live has nothing to do with how feel about
                        2ksports. People need to stop finding reasons why they should not like one game so they can like another game and just enjoy your choice. I have never seen people sooo sensitive about what they do with thier money, you dont need other people to rationalize how you spendyour cash so stop the internet pissing contest over what basketball game you plan on buying this year.
                        Bravo BT... No idea where this disdain for 2k came from all of a sudden... how quickly everyone forgot the spin, spin, spin, dunk skills of NBA Live of old.

                        AP went off the deepend... to say the game is a dunkfest then sim play is left up to the user.... ? Umm... what? That makes absolutely no sense.

                        It'll be interesting to see what happens when they are both released. I remember last year everyone fell for the hype of '07... and people still kept trying to convince themselves it was actually a good game. This forum was more of a ghost town than anything. I'm sure this year's title will be better... but if the demo is any indication the polish won't be there. It's a great building block but don't act like it will be the end all, be all.

                        That's one thing you won't have to worry about with 2k8. It's a title that continues to be refined based on our feedback. The developers work closely with the board members here and are looking to create the best basketball game ever. Knowing they implement so many of our items on the wishlist is a big reason why I would always support the series. It's about time other developers took notice.
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                        • Alburt Poohole
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 372

                          #87
                          Re: Going live this year

                          Originally posted by Tha_Kid
                          This is funny because while the things are there for 2k to be criticized about, you pick things already fixed. 2K8 has added variety to the player body models, as well as footplanting so the sliding is reduced to no more than what I see in the Live 08 demo. All these games have some automation in them, the EA fan argument of "2k games play the game for you" is flawed and wrong.

                          2k shouldve made a new engine, but they've finally managed to fix the issues with this one. I'll take that over a "new" engine thats still buggy.
                          Hopefully you are right...two great games to play is better than one

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                          • Tha_Kid
                            All Star
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 6550

                            #88
                            Re: Going live this year

                            Originally posted by Pared
                            AP went off the deepend... to say the game is a dunkfest then sim play is left up to the user.... ? Umm... what? That makes absolutely no sense.
                            Multiplayer.

                            @ AP - I hope so too, ideally they're both good but different enough to pick one up post ASB....

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                            • BigTigLSU
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                              • Sep 2002
                              • 6506

                              #89
                              Re: Going live this year

                              Originally posted by Tha_Kid
                              Multiplayer.

                              @ AP - I hope so too, ideally they're both good but different enough to pick one up post ASB....
                              But that is every Sports game ever created... No game can ever be fully SIM if the user doesnt want it to play SIM
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                              • Pared
                                Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 39337

                                #90
                                Re: Going live this year

                                Originally posted by Tha_Kid
                                Multiplayer.

                                @ AP - I hope so too, ideally they're both good but different enough to pick one up post ASB....
                                You're kidding right? I sincerely hope so...

                                Your one worded response can be said for ANY basketball game. Take off the glasses fellas....
                                Originally posted by BigTigLSU
                                But that is every Sports game ever created... No game can ever be fully SIM if the user doesnt want it to play SIM
                                Exactly.

                                Again, the comment does not make any sense whatsoever.
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