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  • bigeastbumrush
    My Momma's Son
    • Feb 2003
    • 19245

    #226
    Re: MAN I LOVED LIVE..............

    Oh no, I figured that you're seeing something in 2K4 that I'm just not seeing, and just not noticing. Something in 2K4 that would make me want to keep playing it game after game. I haven't seen it.

    Player vs. Player is cool in 2K4 because you can run up and down in an arcade-type fashion, throw dunks and alley-oops. But playing against the CPU is another story with the high scores, excessively high rebounding numbers and lack of plays.

    About the flaws, I think its pretty much "the good far outweighs the bad" which is why so little time is spent ranting about it in Live '04 as opposed to 2K4.

    Just my opinion though.

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    • Makaveli071
      Rookie
      • Nov 2003
      • 187

      #227
      Re: MAN I LOVED LIVE..............

      i just sold Live 2004 for 25 bucks, nobody wanted to buy it for even 30, boy does the game suck compared to ESPN.....

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      • Makaveli071
        Rookie
        • Nov 2003
        • 187

        #228
        Re: MAN I LOVED LIVE..............

        i just sold Live 2004 for 25 bucks, nobody wanted to buy it for even 30, boy does the game suck compared to ESPN.....

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        • Makaveli071
          Rookie
          • Nov 2003
          • 187

          #229
          Re: MAN I LOVED LIVE..............

          i just sold Live 2004 for 25 bucks, nobody wanted to buy it for even 30, boy does the game suck compared to ESPN.....

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          • jordan0386
            Banned
            • May 2003
            • 9235

            #230
            Re: MAN I LOVED LIVE..............

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            Makaveli071 said:
            i just sold Live 2004 for 25 bucks, nobody wanted to buy it for even 30, boy does the game suck compared to ESPN.....

            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">



            what an informative post

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            • jordan0386
              Banned
              • May 2003
              • 9235

              #231
              Re: MAN I LOVED LIVE..............

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              Makaveli071 said:
              i just sold Live 2004 for 25 bucks, nobody wanted to buy it for even 30, boy does the game suck compared to ESPN.....

              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">



              what an informative post

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              • jordan0386
                Banned
                • May 2003
                • 9235

                #232
                Re: MAN I LOVED LIVE..............

                </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                Makaveli071 said:
                i just sold Live 2004 for 25 bucks, nobody wanted to buy it for even 30, boy does the game suck compared to ESPN.....

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">



                what an informative post

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                • Court_vision
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 8290

                  #233
                  Re: MAN I LOVED LIVE..............

                  </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                  bigeastbumrush said:
                  Oh no, I figured that you're seeing something in 2K4 that I'm just not seeing, and just not noticing. Something in 2K4 that would make me want to keep playing it game after game. I haven't seen it.

                  Player vs. Player is cool in 2K4 because you can run up and down in an arcade-type fashion, throw dunks and alley-oops. But playing against the CPU is another story with the high scores, excessively high rebounding numbers and lack of plays.

                  About the flaws, I think its pretty much "the good far outweighs the bad" which is why so little time is spent ranting about it in Live '04 as opposed to 2K4.

                  Just my opinion though.

                  <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                  Sliders means neither game is as you just described...

                  If you really think LIVE has few flaws, then I aint gonna break your heart

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                  • Court_vision
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 8290

                    #234
                    Re: MAN I LOVED LIVE..............

                    </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                    bigeastbumrush said:
                    Oh no, I figured that you're seeing something in 2K4 that I'm just not seeing, and just not noticing. Something in 2K4 that would make me want to keep playing it game after game. I haven't seen it.

                    Player vs. Player is cool in 2K4 because you can run up and down in an arcade-type fashion, throw dunks and alley-oops. But playing against the CPU is another story with the high scores, excessively high rebounding numbers and lack of plays.

                    About the flaws, I think its pretty much "the good far outweighs the bad" which is why so little time is spent ranting about it in Live '04 as opposed to 2K4.

                    Just my opinion though.

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                    Sliders means neither game is as you just described...

                    If you really think LIVE has few flaws, then I aint gonna break your heart

                    Comment

                    • Court_vision
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 8290

                      #235
                      Re: MAN I LOVED LIVE..............

                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      bigeastbumrush said:
                      Oh no, I figured that you're seeing something in 2K4 that I'm just not seeing, and just not noticing. Something in 2K4 that would make me want to keep playing it game after game. I haven't seen it.

                      Player vs. Player is cool in 2K4 because you can run up and down in an arcade-type fashion, throw dunks and alley-oops. But playing against the CPU is another story with the high scores, excessively high rebounding numbers and lack of plays.

                      About the flaws, I think its pretty much "the good far outweighs the bad" which is why so little time is spent ranting about it in Live '04 as opposed to 2K4.

                      Just my opinion though.

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      Sliders means neither game is as you just described...

                      If you really think LIVE has few flaws, then I aint gonna break your heart

                      Comment

                      • HMcCoy
                        All Star
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 8212

                        #236
                        Re: MAN I LOVED LIVE..............

                        What up Monk...


                        Know what I love? The available moves. Plain and simple...

                        Remember the T-Wolves first game of the season, when KG hit the game winner? He drove the lane busted a quick STEP-BACK move and drained the shot. I can do that on Live, exactly like he did it in the game. Not a dribble back but a full step back move off the dribble. I LOVE THAT.

                        Against the Wizards last night Boozer got the entry pass, faked a drop-step, POWER-DRIBBLED to the middle, and tried to two-hand on Kwame. Kwame had good position though, and Boozer took the contact and laid up a soft two hander right at the rim. I can do that on Live. Every step of that sequence, exactly like the real game. I LOVE THAT.

                        The next time you're watchin' a game, notice how a guy bringing it up deals with pressure. He crouches down, switches hands/directions a couple of times with a careful slow crossover. If the pressure is tight, he shuffles up court with his back to the pressure, using that half-spin to avoid the D. This interaction is in Live. Not in ESPN. In ESPN if the pressure is tight you have to do your fancy little iso-motion thingy or just try a cross court pass because your stuck in place. I LOVE THAT.

                        When I protct the ball by holding it away from the D (down on the triple-threat), my guy can drop-step from there. If you link that into the hesitation move and then into a step-back J....Its heaven. Pure heaven.


                        ESPN has the pace, has the graphics, has the rebounding.

                        Live though...I dont know how else to explain it. Man, its got some irritating flaws but Live allows me to see it on TV and do it on my XBOX. I love that ammount of control. Its like having a brand new box of Crayons and a nice big empty peice of paper, I can create whatever sequence of moves I want. I play as if there are 5-6 people standing around watching, and my job is to make the gameplay look exactly like an NBA broadcast. Live lets me do it. I LOVE THAT.

                        If its in the game, its in the game....


                        I used the T-Wolves the day after KG's game-winner, and I tried to hit that shot at the halftime buzzer but missed it. LOL...Maybe next time.
                        Hank's Custom Collectibles 3D printer/painter extraordinaire

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                        • HMcCoy
                          All Star
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 8212

                          #237
                          Re: MAN I LOVED LIVE..............

                          What up Monk...


                          Know what I love? The available moves. Plain and simple...

                          Remember the T-Wolves first game of the season, when KG hit the game winner? He drove the lane busted a quick STEP-BACK move and drained the shot. I can do that on Live, exactly like he did it in the game. Not a dribble back but a full step back move off the dribble. I LOVE THAT.

                          Against the Wizards last night Boozer got the entry pass, faked a drop-step, POWER-DRIBBLED to the middle, and tried to two-hand on Kwame. Kwame had good position though, and Boozer took the contact and laid up a soft two hander right at the rim. I can do that on Live. Every step of that sequence, exactly like the real game. I LOVE THAT.

                          The next time you're watchin' a game, notice how a guy bringing it up deals with pressure. He crouches down, switches hands/directions a couple of times with a careful slow crossover. If the pressure is tight, he shuffles up court with his back to the pressure, using that half-spin to avoid the D. This interaction is in Live. Not in ESPN. In ESPN if the pressure is tight you have to do your fancy little iso-motion thingy or just try a cross court pass because your stuck in place. I LOVE THAT.

                          When I protct the ball by holding it away from the D (down on the triple-threat), my guy can drop-step from there. If you link that into the hesitation move and then into a step-back J....Its heaven. Pure heaven.


                          ESPN has the pace, has the graphics, has the rebounding.

                          Live though...I dont know how else to explain it. Man, its got some irritating flaws but Live allows me to see it on TV and do it on my XBOX. I love that ammount of control. Its like having a brand new box of Crayons and a nice big empty peice of paper, I can create whatever sequence of moves I want. I play as if there are 5-6 people standing around watching, and my job is to make the gameplay look exactly like an NBA broadcast. Live lets me do it. I LOVE THAT.

                          If its in the game, its in the game....


                          I used the T-Wolves the day after KG's game-winner, and I tried to hit that shot at the halftime buzzer but missed it. LOL...Maybe next time.
                          Hank's Custom Collectibles 3D printer/painter extraordinaire

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                          • HMcCoy
                            All Star
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 8212

                            #238
                            Re: MAN I LOVED LIVE..............

                            What up Monk...


                            Know what I love? The available moves. Plain and simple...

                            Remember the T-Wolves first game of the season, when KG hit the game winner? He drove the lane busted a quick STEP-BACK move and drained the shot. I can do that on Live, exactly like he did it in the game. Not a dribble back but a full step back move off the dribble. I LOVE THAT.

                            Against the Wizards last night Boozer got the entry pass, faked a drop-step, POWER-DRIBBLED to the middle, and tried to two-hand on Kwame. Kwame had good position though, and Boozer took the contact and laid up a soft two hander right at the rim. I can do that on Live. Every step of that sequence, exactly like the real game. I LOVE THAT.

                            The next time you're watchin' a game, notice how a guy bringing it up deals with pressure. He crouches down, switches hands/directions a couple of times with a careful slow crossover. If the pressure is tight, he shuffles up court with his back to the pressure, using that half-spin to avoid the D. This interaction is in Live. Not in ESPN. In ESPN if the pressure is tight you have to do your fancy little iso-motion thingy or just try a cross court pass because your stuck in place. I LOVE THAT.

                            When I protct the ball by holding it away from the D (down on the triple-threat), my guy can drop-step from there. If you link that into the hesitation move and then into a step-back J....Its heaven. Pure heaven.


                            ESPN has the pace, has the graphics, has the rebounding.

                            Live though...I dont know how else to explain it. Man, its got some irritating flaws but Live allows me to see it on TV and do it on my XBOX. I love that ammount of control. Its like having a brand new box of Crayons and a nice big empty peice of paper, I can create whatever sequence of moves I want. I play as if there are 5-6 people standing around watching, and my job is to make the gameplay look exactly like an NBA broadcast. Live lets me do it. I LOVE THAT.

                            If its in the game, its in the game....


                            I used the T-Wolves the day after KG's game-winner, and I tried to hit that shot at the halftime buzzer but missed it. LOL...Maybe next time.
                            Hank's Custom Collectibles 3D printer/painter extraordinaire

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                            • Court_vision
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 8290

                              #239
                              Re: MAN I LOVED LIVE..............

                              </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                              HMcCoy said:
                              What up Monk...


                              Know what I love? The available moves. Plain and simple...

                              Remember the T-Wolves first game of the season, when KG hit the game winner? He drove the lane busted a quick STEP-BACK move and drained the shot. I can do that on Live, exactly like he did it in the game. Not a dribble back but a full step back move off the dribble. I LOVE THAT.

                              Against the Wizards last night Boozer got the entry pass, faked a drop-step, POWER-DRIBBLED to the middle, and tried to two-hand on Kwame. Kwame had good position though, and Boozer took the contact and laid up a soft two hander right at the rim. I can do that on Live. Every step of that sequence, exactly like the real game. I LOVE THAT.

                              The next time you're watchin' a game, notice how a guy bringing it up deals with pressure. He crouches down, switches hands/directions a couple of times with a careful slow crossover. If the pressure is tight, he shuffles up court with his back to the pressure, using that half-spin to avoid the D. This interaction is in Live. Not in ESPN. In ESPN if the pressure is tight you have to do your fancy little iso-motion thingy or just try a cross court pass because your stuck in place. I LOVE THAT.

                              When I protct the ball by holding it away from the D (down on the triple-threat), my guy can drop-step from there. If you link that into the hesitation move and then into a step-back J....Its heaven. Pure heaven.


                              ESPN has the pace, has the graphics, has the rebounding.

                              Live though...I dont know how else to explain it. Man, its got some irritating flaws but Live allows me to see it on TV and do it on my XBOX. I love that ammount of control. Its like having a brand new box of Crayons and a nice big empty peice of paper, I can create whatever sequence of moves I want. I play as if there are 5-6 people standing around watching, and my job is to make the gameplay look exactly like an NBA broadcast. Live lets me do it. I LOVE THAT.

                              If its in the game, its in the game....


                              I used the T-Wolves the day after KG's game-winner, and I tried to hit that shot at the halftime buzzer but missed it. LOL...Maybe next time.


                              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                              Great descriptions brother...regardless of game, I love hearing of guys enjoying their games like this

                              Any negatives I have about LIVE are not to be taken as meaning I don't like the game...I do. IMO all the games this year are a BIG step forward on last year.

                              Those things you talk about in LIVE...i dig those things also. The main reason I am going more with ESPN is simply it has a few more of the things I really like in a simualtion (pace, boarding, post game imo is better as it's less exagerated / harder to just 'slide' back etc)

                              If I had no ESPN and if ID wasn't coming...would I be happy with just LIVE 04? You bet I would.

                              ESPN just suits my style better...and what I am after for this season.

                              ID04 will be the best again for AI...and LIVE is cool...but I am enjoying ESPN for the things it does well also

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                              • Court_vision
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 8290

                                #240
                                Re: MAN I LOVED LIVE..............

                                </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                                HMcCoy said:
                                What up Monk...


                                Know what I love? The available moves. Plain and simple...

                                Remember the T-Wolves first game of the season, when KG hit the game winner? He drove the lane busted a quick STEP-BACK move and drained the shot. I can do that on Live, exactly like he did it in the game. Not a dribble back but a full step back move off the dribble. I LOVE THAT.

                                Against the Wizards last night Boozer got the entry pass, faked a drop-step, POWER-DRIBBLED to the middle, and tried to two-hand on Kwame. Kwame had good position though, and Boozer took the contact and laid up a soft two hander right at the rim. I can do that on Live. Every step of that sequence, exactly like the real game. I LOVE THAT.

                                The next time you're watchin' a game, notice how a guy bringing it up deals with pressure. He crouches down, switches hands/directions a couple of times with a careful slow crossover. If the pressure is tight, he shuffles up court with his back to the pressure, using that half-spin to avoid the D. This interaction is in Live. Not in ESPN. In ESPN if the pressure is tight you have to do your fancy little iso-motion thingy or just try a cross court pass because your stuck in place. I LOVE THAT.

                                When I protct the ball by holding it away from the D (down on the triple-threat), my guy can drop-step from there. If you link that into the hesitation move and then into a step-back J....Its heaven. Pure heaven.


                                ESPN has the pace, has the graphics, has the rebounding.

                                Live though...I dont know how else to explain it. Man, its got some irritating flaws but Live allows me to see it on TV and do it on my XBOX. I love that ammount of control. Its like having a brand new box of Crayons and a nice big empty peice of paper, I can create whatever sequence of moves I want. I play as if there are 5-6 people standing around watching, and my job is to make the gameplay look exactly like an NBA broadcast. Live lets me do it. I LOVE THAT.

                                If its in the game, its in the game....


                                I used the T-Wolves the day after KG's game-winner, and I tried to hit that shot at the halftime buzzer but missed it. LOL...Maybe next time.


                                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                                Great descriptions brother...regardless of game, I love hearing of guys enjoying their games like this

                                Any negatives I have about LIVE are not to be taken as meaning I don't like the game...I do. IMO all the games this year are a BIG step forward on last year.

                                Those things you talk about in LIVE...i dig those things also. The main reason I am going more with ESPN is simply it has a few more of the things I really like in a simualtion (pace, boarding, post game imo is better as it's less exagerated / harder to just 'slide' back etc)

                                If I had no ESPN and if ID wasn't coming...would I be happy with just LIVE 04? You bet I would.

                                ESPN just suits my style better...and what I am after for this season.

                                ID04 will be the best again for AI...and LIVE is cool...but I am enjoying ESPN for the things it does well also

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