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  • Boilerbuzz
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    • Jul 2002
    • 5154

    #61
    Re: WHEN ARE WE FINALLY GOING TO SEE SOME 5 ON 5 GAMEPLAY???

    I want to caution everyone here just a little. It was early, but from the 20 minutes I spent with the controls and Scott's rundown of the system to me, I would not assume that this system will be as versatile as some of you are assuming. Just manage your expectations, is all I'm saying.

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    • Mintsa
      All Star
      • Jul 2002
      • 6668

      #62
      Re: WHEN ARE WE FINALLY GOING TO SEE SOME 5 ON 5 GAMEPLAY???

      Originally posted by Boilerbuzz
      I want to caution everyone here just a little. It was early, but from the 20 minutes I spent with the controls and Scott's rundown of the system to me, I would not assume that this system will be as versatile as some of you are assuming. Just manage your expectations, is all I'm saying.
      You've played the game ? Or the tech demo ?

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      • StayPlation82
        Pro
        • Apr 2008
        • 706

        #63
        Re: WHEN ARE WE FINALLY GOING TO SEE SOME 5 ON 5 GAMEPLAY???

        Originally posted by JrueToTheGame
        So... because you are good with a controller Greg Oden can now do double crossovers? THAT, my friends is why Live will NEVER surpass 2K Because You shouldn't be able to use Brandon Jennings in any way that he doesn't play in real life. The way you use Brandon Jennings and the way I use him shouldn't be totally different they should both represent the way he plays in real life, around here we call it SIM.
        how does one go so far as to reach this conclusion from that statement? in no way was greg mentioned to pull off crossovers. and what I read is that I could use Jennings as a pull up jump shooter while someone with stick skills could make him a penetrating playmaker.
        "Accept victory and defeat in equanimity"

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        • JrueToTheGame
          Banned
          • May 2013
          • 623

          #64
          Re: WHEN ARE WE FINALLY GOING TO SEE SOME 5 ON 5 GAMEPLAY???

          Originally posted by StayPlation82
          how does one go so far as to reach this conclusion from that statement? in no way was greg mentioned to pull off crossovers. and what I read is that I could use Jennings as a pull up jump shooter while someone with stick skills could make him a penetrating playmaker.
          My conclusion is Far from a reach, My conclusion comes from the FACT that they said the same damn thing before NBA Elite, and the FACT that this is how it was in the most recent hands on gameplay they released (which was NBA Elite 11) that is where I get my conclusion from, not just from some BS trailer that comes out before every EA game that looks nothing like the final project.

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          • KyotoCarl
            MVP
            • Mar 2010
            • 3827

            #65
            Re: WHEN ARE WE FINALLY GOING TO SEE SOME 5 ON 5 GAMEPLAY???

            Originally posted by JrueToTheGame
            My conclusion is Far from a reach, My conclusion comes from the FACT that they said the same damn thing before NBA Elite, and the FACT that this is how it was in the most recent hands on gameplay they released (which was NBA Elite 11) that is where I get my conclusion from, not just from some BS trailer that comes out before every EA game that looks nothing like the final project.
            Players would still have skill ratings which would prevent players like greg oden to pull of moves like that.

            Just because you have total control doesnt mean you will be able to do any move in the game.

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            My thoughts on how replays should be handled:
            http://www.operationsports.com/Kyoto...plays-replays/

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            • JrueToTheGame
              Banned
              • May 2013
              • 623

              #66
              Re: WHEN ARE WE FINALLY GOING TO SEE SOME 5 ON 5 GAMEPLAY???

              Originally posted by KyotoCarl
              Players would still have skill ratings which would prevent players like greg oden to pull of moves like that.

              Just because you have total control doesnt mean you will be able to do any move in the game.

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              Again, Is that how it happened in NBA Elite 11? When they basically implemented the same system?

              I'm inclined to believe that statement is false, because thats exactly how it was in NBA Elite 11.

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              • KyotoCarl
                MVP
                • Mar 2010
                • 3827

                #67
                Re: WHEN ARE WE FINALLY GOING TO SEE SOME 5 ON 5 GAMEPLAY???

                Originally posted by JrueToTheGame
                Again, Is that how it happened in NBA Elite 11? When they basically implemented the same system?

                I'm inclined to believe that statement is false, because thats exactly how it was in NBA Elite 11.
                I just tried the Elite 11 demo, which I still have on my 360, and it's a huge difference between how Rondo dribbles and how Garnett dribbles.
                Rondo is much quicker and can chain moves together much easily and effectively. Garnett is much slower and you can't use the dribble moves effeciently.

                So, yes, there is a huge difference in how different players handle the ball and what they can do with it.

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                What we know so far about NBA 2K14 - FAQ/QA:
                http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2045267769

                My thoughts on how replays should be handled:
                http://www.operationsports.com/Kyoto...plays-replays/

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                • Sirs
                  Banned
                  • May 2013
                  • 141

                  #68
                  Re: WHEN ARE WE FINALLY GOING TO SEE SOME 5 ON 5 GAMEPLAY???

                  Originally posted by Boilerbuzz
                  I want to caution everyone here just a little. It was early, but from the 20 minutes I spent with the controls and Scott's rundown of the system to me, I would not assume that this system will be as versatile as some of you are assuming. Just manage your expectations, is all I'm saying.

                  But greatly improved in look and feel from live 10?

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                  • chrome_305
                    Pro
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 700

                    #69
                    Re: WHEN ARE WE FINALLY GOING TO SEE SOME 5 ON 5 GAMEPLAY???

                    Don't be surprised if they package NBA jam with this game >.<


                    I don't see EA changing.
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                    • clipperfan811
                      Pro
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 876

                      #70
                      Re: WHEN ARE WE FINALLY GOING TO SEE SOME 5 ON 5 GAMEPLAY???

                      I don't have a ton of faith in EA Basketball product but I'm definitely hoping that they come out with an impressive effort. EA definitely has a different mentality than the guys at 2k as a company but I'm sure the guys working OT to put this game out are passionate about what they're working on.

                      At this point what I want is for a game to be released, one that does at least a few things way better than how 2k does them. Cross pollination of ideas spawns breakthroughs.

                      I don't think Elite 11 can really be used as a comparison, from everything I've read this game is built on a whole different engine. I think it was smart for EA to focus solely on Next Gen.

                      So like I said I'm not expecting a revolutionary game from top to bottom but if it does the totally break the fundamentals and really pushes the boundaries in 1 or 2 areas I'll be more than thrilled.

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                      • Boilerbuzz
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                        • Jul 2002
                        • 5154

                        #71
                        Re: WHEN ARE WE FINALLY GOING TO SEE SOME 5 ON 5 GAMEPLAY???

                        Originally posted by Sirs
                        But greatly improved in look and feel from live 10?
                        Live 10 was a finished and more polished product. Only graphics were better. Not enough information to judge everything else.

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                        • Boilerbuzz
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                          • Jul 2002
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                          #72
                          Re: WHEN ARE WE FINALLY GOING TO SEE SOME 5 ON 5 GAMEPLAY???

                          Originally posted by clipperfan811
                          I don't think Elite 11 can really be used as a comparison, from everything I've read this game is built on a whole different engine. I think it was smart for EA to focus solely on Next Gen.
                          I don't think people should draw this conclusion. Live 10 was a different engine for sure. But considering Elite was based on the framework that built FIFA and NHL, which is now part "Ignite" engine, wouldn't that imply that Live 14 will have more Elite in it than what's being let on. Of COURSE, EA would say no to distance the game from Elite, but all of the features being touted are pretty much the same, but with different names. Real AI, Synergy, Bouncetek.


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                          • KyotoCarl
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 3827

                            #73
                            Re: WHEN ARE WE FINALLY GOING TO SEE SOME 5 ON 5 GAMEPLAY???

                            Originally posted by chrome_305
                            Don't be surprised if they package NBA jam with this game >.<


                            I don't see EA changing.
                            NBA Jam for next gen sounds very unnecessary.

                            Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
                            What we know so far about NBA 2K14 - FAQ/QA:
                            http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2045267769

                            My thoughts on how replays should be handled:
                            http://www.operationsports.com/Kyoto...plays-replays/

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                            • MarkWilliam
                              72-10
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 2325

                              #74
                              Re: WHEN ARE WE FINALLY GOING TO SEE SOME 5 ON 5 GAMEPLAY???

                              Don't you just wish that sometimes, you could sleep for a month.....? Haha....

                              To think, one day there will be a time where we can just play this game or YouTube it or whatever......

                              .......come on EA..... Im ok if you take your time releasing info..... but pleeeeeaaaase make this game good......

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                              • NoTiCe_O
                                Pro
                                • May 2009
                                • 969

                                #75
                                Re: WHEN ARE WE FINALLY GOING TO SEE SOME 5 ON 5 GAMEPLAY???

                                Originally posted by Boilerbuzz
                                I don't think people should draw this conclusion. Live 10 was a different engine for sure. But considering Elite was based on the framework that built FIFA and NHL, which is now part "Ignite" engine, wouldn't that imply that Live 14 will have more Elite in it than what's being let on. Of COURSE, EA would say no to distance the game from Elite, but all of the features being touted are pretty much the same, but with different names. Real AI, Synergy, Bouncetek.


                                Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
                                I think people fail to realize that this is not a game being made for PS3 with the same memory and hardware limitations, it's a whole new system and a whole new ball game. Out of all the people who have been to E3 it seems like you're (Boilerbuzz) the only one that has nothing positive to say really (And the fact that you won't give impressions makes me doubt whether you're telling the truth, but what do I know?). Now, I used this quote once and I'll use it again.

                                Thomas Edison the creator of the light bulb said...

                                "I have not failed. I have just found 10,000 ways that won't work"

                                EA has failed time and time again, but through that failure they've learned what doesn't work. Maybe now with a fresh start EA has the ability to put something together after some planning, preparation, and countless failures to learn from. NBA Live actually won some best sports game awards at E3, and was nominated by some top sites; when is the last time that's ever happened? We've already seen a glimpse of NBA Live 14 so it's not like we're going in blind here, and from what I see it already looks light years ahead of Elite and even NBA Live 10. The control scheme sounds in depth and really seems like something that we can grasp more as we learn to play, something missing from sports games nowadays.

                                And NBA Elite had some great features if anything, EASBL ring a bell to anyone. Now I don't mean to be rude or put you on the spot Boilerbuzz, but it seems like anytime there's a positive vibe flowing in these forums someone just has to rain on the parade. This is NBA Live 14 for PS4, anything last gen is almost irrelevant.
                                Last edited by NoTiCe_O; 09-05-2013, 09:50 AM.
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