NBA Live 2005 Interview - Part 2

[Gilateen]

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Operation Sports: Could you tell us the names of the artists on the soundtrack?

NBA Live 2005 Team: We have a lot of great artists on this year’s soundtrack representing all genres of hip hop from east to west to dirty south to dancehall to old-school. Artists such as Lloyd Banks and Young Buck, Murphy Lee, Will.I.Am. from the Black Eyed Peas all lend their distinctive sounds to this year’s game. Throw in up’n’coming artists such as Dirtbag, Bump J, Stat Quo, and Nomb and you’ve got a soundtrack you’ll be nodding your head to in no time. Other artists on the soundtrack include MC Lyte, Joell Ortiz, Don Yute, Pete Rock and Kardinall Offishall, Wylde Bunch, The D.O.C. and Brand New Heavies.

Thanks for the artist list but we have been asking about the "jukebox" and if custom soundracks were available. are they?

[Gilateen]

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Operation Sports: Could you tell us the names of the artists on the soundtrack?

NBA Live 2005 Team: We have a lot of great artists on this year’s soundtrack representing all genres of hip hop from east to west to dirty south to dancehall to old-school. Artists such as Lloyd Banks and Young Buck, Murphy Lee, Will.I.Am. from the Black Eyed Peas all lend their distinctive sounds to this year’s game. Throw in up’n’coming artists such as Dirtbag, Bump J, Stat Quo, and Nomb and you’ve got a soundtrack you’ll be nodding your head to in no time. Other artists on the soundtrack include MC Lyte, Joell Ortiz, Don Yute, Pete Rock and Kardinall Offishall, Wylde Bunch, The D.O.C. and Brand New Heavies.

Thanks for the artist list but we have been asking about the "jukebox" and if custom soundracks were available. are they?

[Ofizzle]

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Perhaps in this case, but in general it's kind of whack. For example, Kobe is rated a 75 in FG and 3PT according to IGN, and is only 4 points above Divac in field goal. Now unless I'm horribly mistaken, FG measures a player's ability to shoot from midrange. Does anyone really think that Kobe is only marginally better at shooting midrange shots than Divac? Heck, Hamilton is only a 72.

They probably just looked at Kobe's FG%, figured "ok that's not that high" and kind of just ignored how many difficult shots Kobe takes. If the Lakers need a bucket while the opp's defense is tight, he can get a shot off and stands a pretty good chance to make it even with a defender's fingers in his eyes -- he'll shoot a lower % because of the difficulty of the shots he often takes, not his skill.

Anyone who has seen the guy at a shoot-around knows that he's not some middle of the road shooter.

Yea I know, guys like Kobe, Carter, Pierce etc don't miss shots in practice, but that's how it should be, I know when I'm practicing jumpshots I make like 70%, but in a game it's different, but yea he should be 80 in FG. Tmac should be pretty high, he was actually one of the best mid-range shooting SG's, after Ray Allen, Redd, and Rip last year.

[Ofizzle]

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Perhaps in this case, but in general it's kind of whack. For example, Kobe is rated a 75 in FG and 3PT according to IGN, and is only 4 points above Divac in field goal. Now unless I'm horribly mistaken, FG measures a player's ability to shoot from midrange. Does anyone really think that Kobe is only marginally better at shooting midrange shots than Divac? Heck, Hamilton is only a 72.

They probably just looked at Kobe's FG%, figured "ok that's not that high" and kind of just ignored how many difficult shots Kobe takes. If the Lakers need a bucket while the opp's defense is tight, he can get a shot off and stands a pretty good chance to make it even with a defender's fingers in his eyes -- he'll shoot a lower % because of the difficulty of the shots he often takes, not his skill.

Anyone who has seen the guy at a shoot-around knows that he's not some middle of the road shooter.

Yea I know, guys like Kobe, Carter, Pierce etc don't miss shots in practice, but that's how it should be, I know when I'm practicing jumpshots I make like 70%, but in a game it's different, but yea he should be 80 in FG. Tmac should be pretty high, he was actually one of the best mid-range shooting SG's, after Ray Allen, Redd, and Rip last year.

[nikolaihunt]

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Yea I know, guys like Kobe, Carter, Pierce etc don't miss shots in practice, but that's how it should be, I know when I'm practicing jumpshots I make like 70%, but in a game it's different, but yea he should be 80 in FG. Tmac should be pretty high, he was actually one of the best mid-range shooting SG's, after Ray Allen, Redd, and Rip last year.

Well, he's a 71 (according to the rankings at IGN). So a point behind Rip.

And 12 points behind 'Toine?!

Am I interpreting the Field Goal rating incorrectly here?

[nikolaihunt]

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Yea I know, guys like Kobe, Carter, Pierce etc don't miss shots in practice, but that's how it should be, I know when I'm practicing jumpshots I make like 70%, but in a game it's different, but yea he should be 80 in FG. Tmac should be pretty high, he was actually one of the best mid-range shooting SG's, after Ray Allen, Redd, and Rip last year.

Well, he's a 71 (according to the rankings at IGN). So a point behind Rip.

And 12 points behind 'Toine?!

Am I interpreting the Field Goal rating incorrectly here?

[knickstorm]

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Well, if that happens in a real life game, I think Pierce will take that shot anyway because he is the man who responsible for win or lose. Even if Walter is going to take that shot, Pierce is more likely to have the ball first and then create a chance for Walter.

first i seriously doubt live will ever make the guy with the highest primacy pass the ball off, and it's been shown, Paul Pierce scores more 4th quarter points than anyone else in the league. So he ups his game when it counts, but Live doesn't account for this in anyway.

[knickstorm]

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Well, if that happens in a real life game, I think Pierce will take that shot anyway because he is the man who responsible for win or lose. Even if Walter is going to take that shot, Pierce is more likely to have the ball first and then create a chance for Walter.

first i seriously doubt live will ever make the guy with the highest primacy pass the ball off, and it's been shown, Paul Pierce scores more 4th quarter points than anyone else in the league. So he ups his game when it counts, but Live doesn't account for this in anyway.

[knickstorm]

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Well, it's going to be hard to come up with accurate ratings for these things if they're going by season percentages. Sure, Waltah might have shot at a higher %, but he could camp at the line and won't have a defender or three glued to him like Pierce did. How many of Waltah's threes do you think were unconctested compared to the ones PP shot?

The problem is, even though this method is flawed when scrutinized by the knowledgable NBA guy, how would you do it differently? The only way I could think of coming up with something truly accurate would be to analyze every possession, and that would be alot of work (although there are people out there doing this stuff -- check 82games.com, and teams have access to even more indepth stats (Dallas pays 6 digits for stats analysis for example)). And since the average shmoe just looks at the box score % and doesn't think much beyond that, I guess it's hard to blame EA for using the method they did, even if it's totally flawed.

i'm not blaming EA or calling it a inefficient way to do things. All I'm saying is, dont tell me your doing it by last year's stats when you obviously aren't.

[knickstorm]

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Well, it's going to be hard to come up with accurate ratings for these things if they're going by season percentages. Sure, Waltah might have shot at a higher %, but he could camp at the line and won't have a defender or three glued to him like Pierce did. How many of Waltah's threes do you think were unconctested compared to the ones PP shot?

The problem is, even though this method is flawed when scrutinized by the knowledgable NBA guy, how would you do it differently? The only way I could think of coming up with something truly accurate would be to analyze every possession, and that would be alot of work (although there are people out there doing this stuff -- check 82games.com, and teams have access to even more indepth stats (Dallas pays 6 digits for stats analysis for example)). And since the average shmoe just looks at the box score % and doesn't think much beyond that, I guess it's hard to blame EA for using the method they did, even if it's totally flawed.

i'm not blaming EA or calling it a inefficient way to do things. All I'm saying is, dont tell me your doing it by last year's stats when you obviously aren't.

[lemon]

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Paul Pierce scores more 4th quarter points than anyone else in the league. So he ups his game when it counts, but Live doesn't account for this in anyway.

You assume. IF clutch is not an editable rating or displayed, and you're not working for EA, how do you know Live doesn't account for this?

[lemon]

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Paul Pierce scores more 4th quarter points than anyone else in the league. So he ups his game when it counts, but Live doesn't account for this in anyway.

You assume. IF clutch is not an editable rating or displayed, and you're not working for EA, how do you know Live doesn't account for this?

[knickstorm]

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You assume. IF clutch is not an editable rating or displayed, and you're not working for EA, how do you know Live doesn't account for this?

if they did they would've boasted about this already.

[knickstorm]

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You assume. IF clutch is not an editable rating or displayed, and you're not working for EA, how do you know Live doesn't account for this?

if they did they would've boasted about this already.

[hogfan]

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Perhaps in this case, but in general it's kind of whack. For example, Kobe is rated a 75 in FG and 3PT according to IGN, and is only 4 points above Divac in field goal. Now unless I'm horribly mistaken, FG measures a player's ability to shoot from midrange. Does anyone really think that Kobe is only marginally better at shooting midrange shots than Divac? Heck, Hamilton is only a 72.

They probably just looked at Kobe's FG%, figured "ok that's not that high" and kind of just ignored how many difficult shots Kobe takes. If the Lakers need a bucket while the opp's defense is tight, he can get a shot off and stands a pretty good chance to make it even with a defender's fingers in his eyes -- he'll shoot a lower % because of the difficulty of the shots he often takes, not his skill.

Anyone who has seen the guy at a shoot-around knows that he's not some middle of the road shooter.

If both Vlade and Kobe are wide open from mid range, Vlade may actually be a better shooter.

The problem is that certain players(the great ones, such as Kobe) are very good at hitting mid range shots with people closely guarding them, where as Vlade doesn't have that capability.

There needs to be a factor that addresses this.