NBA Live 2005 Interview - Part 2

[lemon]

Re: NBA Live 2005 Interview - Part 2

"Operation Sports: Are there any fouls called on rebounds, loose ball fouls etc away from the player with the ball?
NBA Live 2005 Team: Very rarely. While we agree that this is definitely a part of NBA Basketball, we do not think it translates well into video game basketball. There are enough foul calls on steal, charge and block attempts to keep the end-of-game stats perfect for a simulation. "

OH COME THE HELL ON! Thats just lazy! charges helping the end of the game stats be realistic!!!?? Comeon now ea, how bout make it realistic so that charges are not called that often?

Read the question. Then re-read it. Then read the answer.

Lazy? Don't go throwing accusations around. If you wanna spend $40 on loose ball fouls, or holding fouls off the ball then go for it, but it sure would make for FRUSTRATING game play.

In the context of answering the question they DID NOT say that they have added in extra fouls to "make up" the missing off ball foul stats by the end of the game.

Realistic expectations people.

[lemon]

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Furthermore, that's just stupid to think if i play the celtics and they're down 3. They will get pierce to shoot it and he'll more than likely miss the shot more than walter. What kind of AI is that?? Definitely should do a little ratings change during crunch time.

Primacy? Clutch? etc...

[lemon]

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Furthermore, that's just stupid to think if i play the celtics and they're down 3. They will get pierce to shoot it and he'll more than likely miss the shot more than walter. What kind of AI is that?? Definitely should do a little ratings change during crunch time.

Primacy? Clutch? etc...

[Ofizzle]

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Well, it's going to be hard to come up with accurate ratings for these things if they're going by season percentages. Sure, Waltah might have shot at a higher %, but he could camp at the line and won't have a defender or three glued to him like Pierce did. How many of Waltah's threes do you think were unconctested compared to the ones PP shot?

The problem is, even though this method is flawed when scrutinized by the knowledgable NBA guy, how would you do it differently? The only way I could think of coming up with something truly accurate would be to analyze every possession, and that would be alot of work (although there are people out there doing this stuff -- check 82games.com, and teams have access to even more indepth stats (Dallas pays 6 digits for stats analysis for example)). And since the average shmoe just looks at the box score % and doesn't think much beyond that, I guess it's hard to blame EA for using the method they did, even if it's totally flawed.

Well Pierce's 3 points shooting as been on mad decline the last three year's, I mean we know he can shoot three's, but after shooting 30% and 29% the last 2 years, it's hard to give him an 80 3PT rating and let it slide.

I mean Carter, Allen, etc all get challenge like Pierce, but they haven't had some mad decline, I really don't know what happened to him...

[Ofizzle]

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Well, it's going to be hard to come up with accurate ratings for these things if they're going by season percentages. Sure, Waltah might have shot at a higher %, but he could camp at the line and won't have a defender or three glued to him like Pierce did. How many of Waltah's threes do you think were unconctested compared to the ones PP shot?

The problem is, even though this method is flawed when scrutinized by the knowledgable NBA guy, how would you do it differently? The only way I could think of coming up with something truly accurate would be to analyze every possession, and that would be alot of work (although there are people out there doing this stuff -- check 82games.com, and teams have access to even more indepth stats (Dallas pays 6 digits for stats analysis for example)). And since the average shmoe just looks at the box score % and doesn't think much beyond that, I guess it's hard to blame EA for using the method they did, even if it's totally flawed.

Well Pierce's 3 points shooting as been on mad decline the last three year's, I mean we know he can shoot three's, but after shooting 30% and 29% the last 2 years, it's hard to give him an 80 3PT rating and let it slide.

I mean Carter, Allen, etc all get challenge like Pierce, but they haven't had some mad decline, I really don't know what happened to him...

[CubsIn2003]

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i just wanna know if:

1. the pt gd comes to get the ball from a defensive rebounder

2. the AI doesnt have laser-speed fast breaks any more

[CubsIn2003]

Re: NBA Live 2005 Interview - Part 2

i just wanna know if:

1. the pt gd comes to get the ball from a defensive rebounder

2. the AI doesnt have laser-speed fast breaks any more

[highpressure]

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Primacy? Clutch? etc...

Yes indeed! All these things factor into a players overall ability and ratings in game. Example, Pierce may have a lower 3pt% than McCarty, but in the clutch Pierce is more likeky to hit that shot because of Primacy & clutch ratings.

It's good to see live making improvements. Heck I'm just glad it's bball time again!

[highpressure]

Re: NBA Live 2005 Interview - Part 2

Primacy? Clutch? etc...

Yes indeed! All these things factor into a players overall ability and ratings in game. Example, Pierce may have a lower 3pt% than McCarty, but in the clutch Pierce is more likeky to hit that shot because of Primacy & clutch ratings.

It's good to see live making improvements. Heck I'm just glad it's bball time again!

[nikolaihunt]

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Well Pierce's 3 points shooting as been on mad decline the last three year's, I mean we know he can shoot three's, but after shooting 30% and 29% the last 2 years, it's hard to give him an 80 3PT rating and let it slide.

I mean Carter, Allen, etc all get challenge like Pierce, but they haven't had some mad decline, I really don't know what happened to him...

Perhaps in this case, but in general it's kind of whack. For example, Kobe is rated a 75 in FG and 3PT according to IGN, and is only 4 points above Divac in field goal. Now unless I'm horribly mistaken, FG measures a player's ability to shoot from midrange. Does anyone really think that Kobe is only marginally better at shooting midrange shots than Divac? Heck, Hamilton is only a 72.

They probably just looked at Kobe's FG%, figured "ok that's not that high" and kind of just ignored how many difficult shots Kobe takes. If the Lakers need a bucket while the opp's defense is tight, he can get a shot off and stands a pretty good chance to make it even with a defender's fingers in his eyes -- he'll shoot a lower % because of the difficulty of the shots he often takes, not his skill.

Anyone who has seen the guy at a shoot-around knows that he's not some middle of the road shooter.

[nikolaihunt]

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Well Pierce's 3 points shooting as been on mad decline the last three year's, I mean we know he can shoot three's, but after shooting 30% and 29% the last 2 years, it's hard to give him an 80 3PT rating and let it slide.

I mean Carter, Allen, etc all get challenge like Pierce, but they haven't had some mad decline, I really don't know what happened to him...

Perhaps in this case, but in general it's kind of whack. For example, Kobe is rated a 75 in FG and 3PT according to IGN, and is only 4 points above Divac in field goal. Now unless I'm horribly mistaken, FG measures a player's ability to shoot from midrange. Does anyone really think that Kobe is only marginally better at shooting midrange shots than Divac? Heck, Hamilton is only a 72.

They probably just looked at Kobe's FG%, figured "ok that's not that high" and kind of just ignored how many difficult shots Kobe takes. If the Lakers need a bucket while the opp's defense is tight, he can get a shot off and stands a pretty good chance to make it even with a defender's fingers in his eyes -- he'll shoot a lower % because of the difficulty of the shots he often takes, not his skill.

Anyone who has seen the guy at a shoot-around knows that he's not some middle of the road shooter.

[nikolaihunt]

Re: NBA Live 2005 Interview - Part 2

Yes indeed! All these things factor into a players overall ability and ratings in game. Example, Pierce may have a lower 3pt% than McCarty, but in the clutch Pierce is more likeky to hit that shot because of Primacy & clutch ratings.

It's good to see live making improvements. Heck I'm just glad it's bball time again!

Looking at the player spreadsheets at IGN, I don't see a rating for clutch -- can someone confirm if there's a "clutch" element in the game? Is it linked in with primacy? (If that's the case, then I've been looking at primacy the wrong way for a while now..)

[nikolaihunt]

Re: NBA Live 2005 Interview - Part 2

Yes indeed! All these things factor into a players overall ability and ratings in game. Example, Pierce may have a lower 3pt% than McCarty, but in the clutch Pierce is more likeky to hit that shot because of Primacy & clutch ratings.

It's good to see live making improvements. Heck I'm just glad it's bball time again!

Looking at the player spreadsheets at IGN, I don't see a rating for clutch -- can someone confirm if there's a "clutch" element in the game? Is it linked in with primacy? (If that's the case, then I've been looking at primacy the wrong way for a while now..)

[23]

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Yes indeed! All these things factor into a players overall ability and ratings in game. Example, Pierce may have a lower 3pt% than McCarty, but in the clutch Pierce is more likeky to hit that shot because of Primacy & clutch ratings.

It's good to see live making improvements. Heck I'm just glad it's bball time again!

HP!!!!! I was in another thread here looking for you. How have you been my man?

Good to have you back again. Right on time too

[23]

Re: NBA Live 2005 Interview - Part 2

Yes indeed! All these things factor into a players overall ability and ratings in game. Example, Pierce may have a lower 3pt% than McCarty, but in the clutch Pierce is more likeky to hit that shot because of Primacy & clutch ratings.

It's good to see live making improvements. Heck I'm just glad it's bball time again!

HP!!!!! I was in another thread here looking for you. How have you been my man?

Good to have you back again. Right on time too