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  • Smallville102001
    All Star
    • Mar 2015
    • 6542

    #736
    Re: NBA Live 18 - Demo Impressions

    Things that I think are a problem that I am noticing so far.

    1. Clock management I had a game were a player got a rebound with about 2 second left in a tie game and didn't call a time out and instead just tried to shoot a like 3 quarter court shoot. I just had a game were GS was up by 14 with a few seconds left and instead of just letting the clock run out they tried to shoot a long shoot again. I have also see Klay try to shoot like a 40 foot 3 with like 5 seconds left in a quarter instead of trying to get a little closer.

    2. Blocks way to many

    3. Inside shooting/layups going in to much.

    I think 1 worries me the most because it is not the kind of thing you can fix/improve with sliders.

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    • d23x
      Pro
      • Jun 2010
      • 836

      #737
      Re: NBA Live 18 - Demo Impressions

      Originally posted by Smallville102001
      Things that I think are a problem that I am noticing so far.

      1. Clock management I had a game were a player got a rebound with about 2 second left in a tie game and didn't call a time out and instead just tried to shoot a like 3 quarter court shoot. I just had a game were GS was up by 14 with a few seconds left and instead of just letting the clock run out they tried to shoot a long shoot again. I have also see Klay try to shoot like a 40 foot 3 with like 5 seconds left in a quarter instead of trying to get a little closer.

      2. Blocks way to many

      3. Inside shooting/layups going in to much.

      I think 1 worries me the most because it is not the kind of thing you can fix/improve with sliders.
      These are probably the most glaring issues to me that I have seen so far. There is also very little player movement on the offensive end. I'm not sure if this was an issue with Live 16, but hopefully it's fixed. Having to create every single basket for the Warriors isn't true to life. If these could be tuned this game would be great.
      Last edited by d23x; 08-15-2017, 03:14 AM.

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      • FerdBrown
        MVP
        • Oct 2016
        • 1200

        #738
        Re: NBA Live 18 - Demo Impressions

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        • Klocker
          MVP
          • Jul 2003
          • 3239

          #739
          Re: NBA Live 18 - Demo Impressions

          So, are most people turning the on screen prompts off?

          I turned off shot meter and am enjoying the game even more. (and game looks better)

          Also turned off the defense assist hints showing which way offender might move. Might turn that back on though.

          For shooting, so long as you release at the top of jump it appears that regardless of release, it is a green shot meter shot. It's a little more difficult to judge free throws as regardless of FT animation, it appears release is just as the ball is placed in the palm (fingers) and about to be moved forward.

          Will also be able to turn free throws to ratings only in full game if desired.

          Also I am just now noticing the shot % chance meter at the feet. It is really helpful to know where and when a shots chances are best. It appears to show in real time, rather than based off shot %. If you are covered or off position it can go red, or yellow or yellow with green.

          These may have been in 15 or 16 , don't know never played that demo more than 20 minutes but these are nice little features.
          Last edited by Klocker; 08-15-2017, 04:46 AM.

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          • kg88222
            Just started!
            • Aug 2017
            • 4

            #740
            Re: NBA Live 18 - Demo Impressions

            I really didn't play the last Live game past the demo. This is a serviceable basketball game. Live has always had a nice organic feel to it. Graphics are nice. I've really enjoyed madden this past year. I mainly play that, nba 2k and the show and all are great games at this point. I can't really say this game is good or bad. It's hard to recommend when 2k is still a step ahead in most areas. 2k17 has some minor annoyances with sideline coaches though. There is too much inconsistency with passes and deflections loose balls where defenders just seem to lack the necessary animations. I like the pacing. The game can feel very organic but also robotic even still. Some of the contact and animations being made are excellent. I wouldn't have any issue recommending this as a standalone experience. Presentation is really good. The game has a grainy look to it though. Sound effects and ambience doesn't appear to be on par with Madden either. It's not as good as that. Still a nice little game though. Just hard to recommend over a game like 2k. Some of it does feel more organic. I think this is the best live has been in a while. This is from someone who didn't mind 2k baseball for years too though. Some of it was just more fun than the Show. Those games are so good at this point though. I like something new however and live isn't a bad game by any means. Last time out i really wasn't liking it too much. Just still some braindead AI and weird stuff going on at times. PLayers look good though. It's getting close to Madden. THe presentation during the rise is also entertaining. The game has something to offer if you want a fair to quality basketball game. Some of it jumps out. Not all of it though.

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            • stephenk24
              Rookie
              • Jul 2011
              • 85

              #741
              Re: NBA Live 18 - Demo Impressions

              I'm experiencing framerate issues in cutscenes, and during games when there's screen wipes and packages at halftime etc. Is that just me?

              After more gameplay though, I'm getting closer and closer to pre-ordering. Once they drop the franchise mode news, I'll drop my money probably!
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              • cam21224
                MVP
                • Jun 2008
                • 2033

                #742
                Re: NBA Live 18 - Demo Impressions

                Had a crazy game I for sure thought Bron was going to choke




                Then this happened




                All this game needs for me to buy is the ability to set matchups without having that position locked *example if I want Klay to guard kyrie without having every sg I sub in be set to that match up too, it's annoying having to pause to switch every sub. Being able to select who to double team with and blocking fouls & over the back fouls.
                Last edited by cam21224; 08-15-2017, 06:11 AM.
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                • Barncore
                  Formerly known as Barnsey
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 1337

                  #743
                  Re: NBA Live 18 - Demo Impressions

                  Here's some sliders i've been playing around with to make it feel more balanced and realistic.

                  (for both user and cpu)

                  Inside shot ability: 40
                  Driving layup: 40
                  Layup foul frequency: 60
                  Offensive in air collision frequency: 60
                  Defensive in air collision frequency: 70
                  Shot contest impact: 70

                  Only played 2 games with it so need to do more testing, but it definitely felt better than default where it felt like everybody was making every shot and scoring inside was too much of a high percentage shot. This makes it so you can't just drive and dunk/layup through anybody all the time. And contesting shots has more impact, so getting open is more necessary

                  Edit: I'm playing on All-Star btw
                  Last edited by Barncore; 08-15-2017, 06:33 AM.

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                  • K_rob11
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 1465

                    #744
                    Re: NBA Live 18 - Demo Impressions

                    I really really want the final version of this game to be good. I really hope some of these issues are not in the final build.


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                    • texasgmr
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 338

                      #745
                      Re: NBA Live 18 - Demo Impressions

                      I am really enjoying my time with the DEMO. Compared to 16, this years title has me excited about what is to come. Hopefully the devs are taking a look at what is being said and issue brought up to correct before launch.

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                      • CMH
                        Making you famous
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 26203

                        #746
                        Re: NBA Live 18 - Demo Impressions

                        Originally posted by Vinsanity115
                        I think the gamespeed did go up. Personally liked the slower speed as well. I see it's set at 70 in game settings, was it at 50 originally?



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                        Speed was always 70 but it feels like what 70 equals was bumped up. I went down to 60 and it still felt different.

                        I don't understand how people play at faster speeds. Everyone is doing too much with their movements.

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                        • CMH
                          Making you famous
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 26203

                          #747
                          Re: NBA Live 18 - Demo Impressions

                          Originally posted by Smallville102001
                          What kind of foul numbers are you seeing? Right now I am playing a game with shot blocking at 30 and still seeing way to much lol.
                          I have blocks and dunks down to 10.

                          It's much better imo.

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                          "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                          "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                          • lareka
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 1053

                            #748
                            Re: NBA Live 18 - Demo Impressions

                            Originally posted by d23x
                            The best thing for Live was to release this demo. They get immediate feedback on things they can probably tinker with before release and also I'm sure patches will come. Hopefully patches won't kill the game because it's already fun as is, just small things need fixed. Not sure how much of a demo is the final version.
                            I heard that this is one of the reasons why they released the demo early - to get feedback and fix them before the release. I wish 2K did the same exact thing. They launch the game with a lot of problems, then they bring patch after patch to finally get a balance (or not - as in 2k17). It's a good thing that a developer says "we will listen to you and make the required changes before release". We don't know how much of an improvement we'll see but the direction is nice.

                            I really enjoyed Live 18 so far as an avid 2K gamer minus 2K17 and 2K16 - i literally hated them-. It provides a nice alternative to 2K and if they do the right things, in a year or two Live can be a legit challenger to 2K, may even dethrone 2K. I don't like the direction of 2K to be honest, they have to act right or they'll lose it before they know it
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                            • Vinsanity115
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2017
                              • 221

                              #749
                              Re: NBA Live 18 - Demo Impressions

                              Originally posted by CMH
                              Speed was always 70 but it feels like what 70 equals was bumped up. I went down to 60 and it still felt different.

                              I don't understand how people play at faster speeds. Everyone is doing too much with their movements.

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                              Yeah I like to see things develop more, especially on drives. I mean I'm a Spurs and Memphis fan so I just like the slow pace to begin with more.

                              A lot of people like the faster pace, run n gun style, seemingly faster movements, so they're happier now.

                              Unfortunately I'm an online user so I can't go off sliders

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                              • lareka
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2013
                                • 1053

                                #750
                                Re: NBA Live 18 - Demo Impressions

                                I played the demo several times and I liked it quite a lot (more than I expected before I played it).

                                As an avid 2K gamer since 2K6 (I literally hated 2K17 - the reasons stated clearly here: http://forums.operationsports.com/fo...-myleague.html ) I really liked the demo.

                                Of course they are not going to dethrone or directly compete with 2K yet but it's a NEW game so it's important for them to have a good base first and then improve on it the next year and the year after and etc.

                                I played basketball games 5 V 5 season mode all the time with 4/5 or 5/5 difficulty levels (superstar or Hall of fame) so realism is super important for me. 2K17 was unplayable even though I tried zillions of sliders and spent days on it. I think 2K screwed up big time buy not addressing simple gameplay issues as stated above in the forum topic)

                                So Live is a nice alternative to have if 2K screws up again.

                                The animations are sometimes stiff and clunky and some un-real scenes happen, yes i don't deny it. But overall 80 % of the game is pretty good. I play the game in superstar and they definitely need to make everything more real.

                                Blocking is quite unreal, the controls are not responsive enough from time to time, CPU movement is not as good as it has to be, the game (movement of players) is slow, shooters need a lot of time to release their shot (too much) post-up needs some work (we need up and under move), L1 in ICON set should be replaced by L2 (everybody is used to L2 and L1 is unresponsive sometimes), steals should be toned down, passing should be more realistic (passes that shouldn't get through to the paint gets there easily but sometimes a simple pass gets stolen because the passer throws is very badly), there are not enough foul calls.

                                There are probably more problems than that and since they told that they will listen to the critics and make required adjustments before release, i think Live is on a good direction to create a great simulation game. Maybe Live 18 will be only a good game but Live 19 and 20 will be a more complete, better game. Still, having a good competitor to 2K will only make it good for us. Both developers need to work harder. I will support Live by buying the game because :

                                1- They made the pre-order price quite low
                                2- They released the demo earlier and gave us a lot of modes to play in early August free of charge
                                3- The game is good and it can only get better
                                4- I feel like you gotta support a developer who develops an NBA game that you can play as an alternative. I love NBA and NBA video games so that's no brainer

                                Please also do not forget whenever 2K gets released, to make the game more realistic we spend tons of hours on sliders. So when you criticize Live for gameplay issues please don't forget we can always go adjust sliders. 2K release was never perfect anyway...
                                Last edited by lareka; 08-15-2017, 08:39 AM.
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