The LeBron James Thread

[Kashanova]

Re: The LeBron James Thread

been thinking about this for awhile now and with lebron playing at such a high level i actually think its the perfect time to ask it. while it may seem like a silly question at 1st, take a second and stop to think about it 4 a sec.

is lebron overhyped? not overrated. clearly he is not overrated. so please lets not confuse the 2 words. but overhyped im not as clear on.

and ill give an anology that expresses better what im asking.

if we here on this OS board were all in a street gang, you'd have some ppl here who would be considered BGs, some Gs and other OGs. but you wouldnt get any more credit than you've earned. in other words you wouldnt be allowed to lay claim to stripes you havent actually earned nomatter the quality of your current work. so a G could never be confused with an OG, no matter how promising the G was.

and a part of me feels like this is what is happening with lebron. in this anology he is G status. But i feel like too many folks (fans & media) are already giving lebron OG status. and to go even futher when he was just a BG (great player), it seems like he was already getting too much G (champion) status love.

i understand the potential and projecting aspect of it, but he's got so much more work to put in b4 he can even be considered for OG (atleast 3 chips)status.

every other OG athlete in the history of sports has had to climb so many accomplishment hurdles set by their predecesors (mostly chips); i was wonder is there some type of end game going on here as to why lebron seems he he gets a clearer path to OG love than any other athlete b4 him. is it simple this new stats-centric era that we live in?

i hope that we can have a sincere convo about this cause im quite curious to here ppl response.

again this question is not trying to take anything away from what lebron is currently doing, but rather we are asking why does he get so much OG love when he is really just a G. this is a sincere question on my part.

Given the hype and expectations placed upon him in high school, I'd say he surpassed it

[The 24th Letter]

Not sure I understand the question.

What is this "OG Love" that LeBron is getting? Can you be specific?

[TajDeni]

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Given the hype and expectations placed upon him in high school, I'd say he surpassed it

i would agree that he lived up to and surpassed the coming into the league hype and thats why i said that he could never be considered overrated. so we are clearly passed that.

i mean right now and how they are already comparing him to the OGs of the game. saying he is already on that level. and what im trying to say is that i cant remember another athlete who has ever been elevated so much without actually having the stripes on his uniform to back up the love.

look across all of sports, at all the athletes considered superstars, past and present, none of them get the red-carpet rolled out for them to OG status the way that lebron does. 4ex. how is lebron any different than P. Manning at this point. yet they get treated completely different. because ppl wont dare put Manning in the same sentence as Montana. i mean alot of ppl still say brady has win more superbowls for the question to even be worth mentioning, if he's better than montana.

but its like we dont hold lebron to these same standard that we hold every other superstar in sports.

he's only won 1 champion, yet he gets treated like he's won 3-4. he gets mentioned in the same level as folks who have put in serious work.

i guess im saying at what point do we stop projecting what i guys going to do or become, and only give you praise for what you currently are doing or have actually accomplished. not what you may accomplished, because the OGs of the game have that love because of what they actually did acomplished.

[TajDeni]

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Not sure I understand the question.

What is this "OG Love" that LeBron is getting? Can you be specific?

i feel like that b4 lebron won a chip, he was already being treated like he had already won a chip and now that he has 1 chip, alot of fans and the media talk about him like he's won 3,4,5,6 chips imo.

and im saying that if you look at the history of sports no other athlete, past or present, gets the love that lebron gets at this stage in his career.

do ppl say that adrian peterson is in the same class as barry sanders, no ppl dont even talk about stuff like that yet, because AP hasnt put in enough work to deserve that type of talk.

and im saying that lebron gets put in the same class as OGs of the game too much even tho he doesnt have enough earned stripes on his uniform at this point. and those guys who we now consider OGs had to climb so many mountains just to get their OG status.

and im askin why do folks think that that is. no other athlete is treated this way, not 1.

[King_B_Mack]

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i feel like that b4 lebron won a chip, he was being treated like he had already won a chip and now that he has 1 chip, alot of fans and the media treat him like he's won 3,4,5,6 chips imo.

and im saying that if you look at the history of sports no other athlete is gets the love that lebron gets at this point in their career.

do ppl say that adrian peterson is in the same class as barry sanders, no ppl dont even talk about stuff like that yet, because AP has put in enough work to deserve that type of talk.

and im saying that lebron gets put in the same class as OG of the game too much even too he doesnt have enough stripes on his uniform at this point.

and im askin why do folks think that that is. no other athlete is treated this way, not 1.

Kobe definitely got treated that way. KD is already getting treated that way. How many stripes does LeBron really need? He's nine years deep into his career. Michael was getting put in the same class of the 'OGs' before he won his first title and he did that in year 7 which solidified his place amongst the greats.

[DukeC]

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Kobe definitely got treated that way. KD is already getting treated that way. How many stripes does LeBron really need? He's nine years deep into his career. Michael was getting put in the same class of the 'OGs' before he won his first title and he did that in year 7 which solidified his place amongst the greats.

To expand on this, Basketball is not like other sports (Or in this case Football, so it's not a good comparison to begin with). The closest approximation would be Baseball in terms of the emphasis on stats that people use to grade athletes as HOF worthy...

[The 24th Letter]

Your saying LeBron James has been treated like he won a ring before he actually did? LeBron "3 quarters, Loss of the Ring, Cell Phone on silent" James?

Then you use Peyton Manning, one of the most gushed on players (before and after the ring) in the NFL, as an example? He has been compared to Joe Montana repeatedly..

I'm just not following you bro....sports in general already has an unhealthy of comparing current stats to past greats...it's absolutely not exclusive to LeBron James...

[The 24th Letter]

Kobe definitely got treated that way. KD is already getting treated that way. How many stripes does LeBron really need? He's nine years deep into his career. Michael was getting put in the same class of the 'OGs' before he won his first title and he did that in year 7 which solidified his place amongst the greats.

I remember that one commentator called MJ the GOAT after his first ring

[TajDeni]

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Kobe definitely got treated that way. KD is already getting treated that way. How many stripes does LeBron really need? He's nine years deep into his career. Michael was getting put in the same class of the 'OGs' before he won his first title and he did that in year 7 which solidified his place amongst the greats.

kobe had to win 5 championships b4 it was even ok to mention him in teh same sentence with mike.

maybe i just dont hear it, but ive never heard 1 person ask was KD better than folks who won multiple rings.

b4 mike won his 1st ring, he got love, but ppl didnt dare ask was he already better than larry or magic.

maybe its just where i be and the stuff that i hear. but ppl across different platforms are already asking is lebron the g.o.a.t, i know i cant be the only 1 hearin this.

[slimm44]

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kobe had to win 5 championships b4 it was even ok to mention him in teh same sentence with mike.

maybe i just dont hear it, but ive never heard 1 person ask was KD better than folks who won multiple rings.

b4 mike won his 1st ring, he got love, but ppl didnt dare ask was he already better than larry or magic.

maybe its just where i be and the stuff that i hear. but ppl across different platforms are already asking is lebron the g.o.a.t, i know i cant be the only 1 hearin this.

It's still not OK.

[King_B_Mack]

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kobe had to win 5 championships b4 it was even ok to mention him in teh same sentence with mike.

maybe i just dont hear it, but ive never heard 1 person ask was KD better than folks who won multiple rings.

b4 mike won his 1st ring, he got love, but ppl didnt dare ask was he already better than larry or magic.

maybe its just where i be and the stuff that i hear. but ppl across different platforms are already asking is lebron the g.o.a.t, i know i cant be the only 1 hearin this.

Dude Larry Bird called him God disguised as Michael Jordan. Not sure what you've been doing the last twenty something years of ball.

[ojandpizza]

@Taj - championships are not the only thing that define greatness.

LeBron has been considered great because he is great.

Hell even the logo was like 1 for 10 in the finals.

Winning a ring isn't the only way to reach the status LeBron reached.. He never had a team.

[ojandpizza]

Dude Larry Bird called him God disguised as Michael Jordan. Not sure what you've been doing the last twenty something years of ball.

Exactly, in only his 2nd season!

[Kashanova]

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i would agree that he lived up to and surpassed the coming into the league hype and thats why i said that he could never be considered overrated. so we are clearly passed that.

i mean right now and how they are already comparing him to the OGs of the game. saying he is already on that level. and what im trying to say is that i cant remember another athlete who has ever been elevated so much without actually having the stripes on his uniform to back up the love.

look across all of sports, at all the athletes considered superstars, past and present, none of them get the red-carpet rolled out for them to OG status the way that lebron does. 4ex. how is lebron any different than P. Manning at this point. yet they get treated completely different. because ppl wont dare put Manning in the same sentence as Montana. i mean alot of ppl still say brady has win more superbowls for the question to even be worth mentioning, if he's better than montana.

but its like we dont hold lebron to these same standard that we hold every other superstar in sports.

he's only won 1 champion, yet he gets treated like he's won 3-4. he gets mentioned in the same level as folks who have put in serious work.

i guess im saying at what point do we stop projecting what i guys going to do or become, and only give you praise for what you currently are doing or have actually accomplished. not what you may accomplished, because the OGs of the game have that love because of what they actually did acomplished.

lol of course he's compared to some of the great of the game, look at his resume at his age, already has 20k points, 3 mvps, multiple first team nba selections, gold medals, hes not even 30 yet. With a resume like that you're definitely going to be compared to an "og" no matter who you are

[ojandpizza]

lol of course he's compared to some of the great of the game, look at his resume at his age, already has 20k points, 3 mvps, multiple first team nba selections, gold medals, hes not even 30 yet. With a resume like that you're definitely going to be compared to an "og" no matter who you are

This along with the fact that his game at 3 to 4 years pro was more well rounded than most guys in the NBA's 50 greatest players list