Re: The LeBron James Thread
As for some of the leagues all time best Big 3 groups..
Russell, Cousy, Heinsohn - substitute Sharman for Cousy/Tom even
Havlicek, Jones, Russell
Wilt, Greer, Cunningham - or substitute Walker
Wilt, West, Baylor
Wilt, West, Goodrich
Kareem, Oscar, Dandridge
Frazier, Reed, DeBusschere - or substitute Lucas
Love, Sloan, Van Lier - or substitute Walker - kinda weak*
Walton, Lucas, Hollins - kinda weak?*
Hayes, Unseld, and Dandridge/Kupchak/Chenier? -also kinda weak*
Williams, Sikma, DJ - or substitute Fred Brown
Cheeks, Julius, Moses - or substitute Toney
Magic, Kareem, Worthy
Bird, McHale, Parish - or substitute DJ
Thomas, Dumars, Laimbeer
Jordan, Pippen, Grant
Nance, Price, Daugherty
Drexler, Porter, Kersey - or Buck? Also kinda weak*
Tim, Mitch, Mullin
Barkley, KJ, Majerle
Penny, Shaq, Nick
Jordan, Pippen, Rodman
Payton, Kemp, Schrempf
Malone, Stockton, Hornacek
Shaq, Kobe, Fisher/Fox/Horry???
Duncan, Parker, Manu
Nash, Amar'e, Marion
Billups, Sheed, Ben - or Rip
Pierce, KG, Allen
Kobe, Gasol, Bynum
Dirk, Kidd, Marion - or Terry, kinda weak**
Durant, Westbrook, Harden/Ibaka
LeBron, Wade, Bosh
Off the top of my head that's the best trios I can think of as far as talent combined with success. Again I agree as far as the entire team goes I don't think Miami is near as good as a lot of the teams the trios mentioned above had. Lots of those teams had other HOFs paired with them, 6th man of the year candidates, and all star caliber talents.. But as far as just 3 players go to say they aren't up there with those guys is ridiculous. Especially if we are talking about all around talent, and how well they contribute at both ends of the court.
If I had to pick just one team? Probably Bird/McHale/Parish or Magic/Kareem/Worthy.. But still it's not like I can say that with any certainty.
I know the Jordan/Pippen/Rodman group is basically the consensus choice here but honestly Rodman was never a great all around player. He performed his role perfectly but really Harper and Kukoc were probably equally important for that team. Rodman made up for not having a good rebounding center and was still a good defender, but his days as a lock down guy and arguably the best defender in the league were ending.. He was more of a nuisance get in your head defender who was not scared to do the dirty work.. I would maybe chose the Jordan, Pippen, Grant 3 over them. And according to win shares and estimated wins added I believe this group is ranked the highest of all time.
The big thing the Jordan/Pippen/Rodman trio has for them is the 72 wins. But again Kukoc could arguably be that third guy, or Harper even for giving them the best perimeter defensive trio of all time.
But there isn't many trios on the list who could drop a combined 80 points and at the same time be one of the most effective defensive trios in the league. Combined with how well rounded LeBron and Bosh are skill wise they are easily up there with those other guys.
As for some of the leagues all time best Big 3 groups..
Russell, Cousy, Heinsohn - substitute Sharman for Cousy/Tom even
Havlicek, Jones, Russell
Wilt, Greer, Cunningham - or substitute Walker
Wilt, West, Baylor
Wilt, West, Goodrich
Kareem, Oscar, Dandridge
Frazier, Reed, DeBusschere - or substitute Lucas
Love, Sloan, Van Lier - or substitute Walker - kinda weak*
Walton, Lucas, Hollins - kinda weak?*
Hayes, Unseld, and Dandridge/Kupchak/Chenier? -also kinda weak*
Williams, Sikma, DJ - or substitute Fred Brown
Cheeks, Julius, Moses - or substitute Toney
Magic, Kareem, Worthy
Bird, McHale, Parish - or substitute DJ
Thomas, Dumars, Laimbeer
Jordan, Pippen, Grant
Nance, Price, Daugherty
Drexler, Porter, Kersey - or Buck? Also kinda weak*
Tim, Mitch, Mullin
Barkley, KJ, Majerle
Penny, Shaq, Nick
Jordan, Pippen, Rodman
Payton, Kemp, Schrempf
Malone, Stockton, Hornacek
Shaq, Kobe, Fisher/Fox/Horry???
Duncan, Parker, Manu
Nash, Amar'e, Marion
Billups, Sheed, Ben - or Rip
Pierce, KG, Allen
Kobe, Gasol, Bynum
Dirk, Kidd, Marion - or Terry, kinda weak**
Durant, Westbrook, Harden/Ibaka
LeBron, Wade, Bosh
Off the top of my head that's the best trios I can think of as far as talent combined with success. Again I agree as far as the entire team goes I don't think Miami is near as good as a lot of the teams the trios mentioned above had. Lots of those teams had other HOFs paired with them, 6th man of the year candidates, and all star caliber talents.. But as far as just 3 players go to say they aren't up there with those guys is ridiculous. Especially if we are talking about all around talent, and how well they contribute at both ends of the court.
If I had to pick just one team? Probably Bird/McHale/Parish or Magic/Kareem/Worthy.. But still it's not like I can say that with any certainty.
I know the Jordan/Pippen/Rodman group is basically the consensus choice here but honestly Rodman was never a great all around player. He performed his role perfectly but really Harper and Kukoc were probably equally important for that team. Rodman made up for not having a good rebounding center and was still a good defender, but his days as a lock down guy and arguably the best defender in the league were ending.. He was more of a nuisance get in your head defender who was not scared to do the dirty work.. I would maybe chose the Jordan, Pippen, Grant 3 over them. And according to win shares and estimated wins added I believe this group is ranked the highest of all time.
The big thing the Jordan/Pippen/Rodman trio has for them is the 72 wins. But again Kukoc could arguably be that third guy, or Harper even for giving them the best perimeter defensive trio of all time.
But there isn't many trios on the list who could drop a combined 80 points and at the same time be one of the most effective defensive trios in the league. Combined with how well rounded LeBron and Bosh are skill wise they are easily up there with those other guys.
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