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  • cam21224
    MVP
    • Jun 2008
    • 2033

    #14746
    Re: The LeBron James Thread

    Originally posted by jake44np
    Too frail, I would trade him as part of a package for Kawhi everyday of the week and twice on Sunday!
    Same thing was said about KD look how that turned out 🤷🏾*♂️ and no that's not me saying he's KD or will ever be on the level of KD but you can't teach that size and length. He also has potential and youth in his favor no way in hell I'm giving him up in a trade for a guy we can sign in a year.
    Horseshoes & HollyWood

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    • jake44np
      Post Like a Champion!
      • Jul 2002
      • 9563

      #14747
      Re: The LeBron James Thread

      Originally posted by cam21224
      Same thing was said about KD look how that turned out 🤷🏾*♂️ and no that's not me saying he's KD or will ever be on the level of KD but you can't teach that size and length. He also has potential and youth in his favor no way in hell I'm giving him up in a trade for a guy we can sign in a year.
      Nobody was saying KD was to frail going into his 3rd season. lol
      KD averaged 25ppg in his 2nd season and played 40 min per game.
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      • cam21224
        MVP
        • Jun 2008
        • 2033

        #14748
        Re: The LeBron James Thread

        Originally posted by jake44np
        Nobody was saying KD was to frail going into his 3rd season. lol
        KD averaged 25ppg in his 2nd season and played 40 min per game.
        You full of it with that first sentence.

        We going with the good ol ESPN like agenda with this ppg mess. KD also played 74 games to Ingram's 59 in his second season.

        25 to 16 wow such a big point difference, dude is 6'9 with a 7'3 wingspan, shown flashes of playmaking skills, plays defense but we're suppose to give up on him [emoji23]

        Only thing holding him back is experience and health. Like I already stated no way in hell do I give up on this dude for a guy we can sign next off season and even if we don't land him oh well. I'm just glad your not running the front office of my team 🤷🏾*♂️

        Hollywood & Horsehoes
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        • ojandpizza
          Hall Of Fame
          • Apr 2011
          • 29807

          #14749
          Re: The LeBron James Thread

          Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
          Ingram will be fine.

          He’s already down to 40% trash after being at 78% at the beginning of the year according to the “experts” here so by that metric, he’ll be at 8% at the end of next year.

          Not going to put a ceiling on him when he’s only 21 and barely into his 3rd year.


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          I think he'll be around 20 a game this year, flirt with being an All-Star and hell might even make it with all the hype this team is going to get.

          Still don't see the whole KD, Kobe, T-Mac type of future.

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          • jake44np
            Post Like a Champion!
            • Jul 2002
            • 9563

            #14750
            Re: The LeBron James Thread

            Originally posted by cam21224
            You full of it with that first sentence.

            We going with the good ol ESPN like agenda with this ppg mess. KD also played 74 games to Ingram's 59 in his second season.

            25 to 16 wow such a big point difference, dude is 6'9 with a 7'3 wingspan, shown flashes of playmaking skills, plays defense but we're suppose to give up on him [emoji23]

            Only thing holding him back is experience and health. Like I already stated no way in hell do I give up on this dude for a guy we can sign next off season and even if we don't land him oh well. I'm just glad your not running the front office of my team 🤷🏾*♂️

            Hollywood & Horsehoes
            Yeah actually 25 to 16 is a huge difference.
            Its the difference in being an all star to an slightly above average scorer.
            And every front office in the league would trade Ingram for Kawhi.
            And don't say then why haven't the Lakers yet. Give them time.
            And if it doesn't happen it is because the Spurs don't want to do it.
            ND Season Ticket Holder since '72.

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            • cam21224
              MVP
              • Jun 2008
              • 2033

              #14751
              Re: The LeBron James Thread

              Originally posted by jake44np
              Yeah actually 25 to 16 is a huge difference.
              Its the difference in being an all star to an slightly above average scorer.
              And every front office in the league would trade Ingram for Kawhi.
              And don't say then why haven't the Lakers yet. Give them time.
              And if it doesn't happen it is because the Spurs don't want to do it.
              Way to remove all context and I can list plenty of all stars who never even averaged 20 ppg since that's what your so stuck on.

              If someone wants to take the PG route and trade for Kawhi that's their prerogative. We aren't talking about every front office in the league, we're talking about the Lakers. As it stands the Lakers do not have to trade Ingram for him if he wants to be a Laker he'll be one next year with Ingram still there if they choose to ride it out for this year.

              Hollywood & Horsehoes
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              • RedSceptile
                MVP
                • Jun 2011
                • 3680

                #14752
                Re: The LeBron James Thread

                Originally posted by jake44np
                Yeah actually 25 to 16 is a huge difference.
                Its the difference in being an all star to an slightly above average scorer.
                And every front office in the league would trade Ingram for Kawhi.
                And don't say then why haven't the Lakers yet. Give them time.
                And if it doesn't happen it is because the Spurs don't want to do it.
                Yet it's widely reported that executives around the league say the Spurs have to absolutely get Ingram from the Lakers because of his potential upside. Literally every report has been about how the Spurs want Ingram and other assets at a minimum? Again you're out here acting like dudes don't develop or something. Would you have said trade Giannis' after his second season when he put up 12.7/6.7/2.6 splits? What about even the dude we are talking about here Kawhi Leonard who put up a ground breaking 11.9/6/1.6. Let's break things down even more did you know the two I just mentioned didn't break 20 points per game until their 4th and 5th year in the league respectively (because for fans for some reason if you aren't putting up gaudy numbers day one I guess you aren't good or something). It's almost like developing is a thing. I'm not trying to attack you or anything, but I don't understand this mindset at all by fans. Again I go back to the Klay Thompson for Kevin Love trade. On paper Kevin Love would have easily been the better choice in that summer of 2014 because on paper 26/13/4 is a hell of a lot better than 18/3/2. Yet the organization avoided trading for a "sure thing" (mainly thanks to Jerry West) because of his belief on what Klay could continue to develop into and 4 Finals and 3 championships later here we are. I just don't understand this way of thinking like it's somehow wrong to believe that the talent you scouted could potentially be greater than what you trade for.

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                • d11king
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 2716

                  #14753
                  Re: The LeBron James Thread

                  I wonder how many Milwaukee fans thought Giannis was trash after averaging 12 and 7 after his second season... or the Indiana fans when Paul George was out there finishing with 12 and 5.. I could continue to research people but in a world where we have microwave and instant messaging on an iPhone, it’s hard to preach patience.

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                  • cam21224
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 2033

                    #14754
                    Re: The LeBron James Thread

                    Originally posted by ojandpizza
                    Still don't see the whole Kobe, T-Mac type of future.
                    Who said this? I'm sure nobody seen it from those two either, Kobe started out shooting air balls and T-Mac had to change teams they developed, can the young dude get some more time in the league first before we start spouting out "trash".





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                    • ProfessaPackMan
                      Bamma
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 63852

                      #14755
                      Re: The LeBron James Thread

                      Originally posted by ojandpizza
                      I think he'll be around 20 a game this year, flirt with being an All-Star and hell might even make it with all the hype this team is going to get.



                      Still don't see the whole KD, Kobe, T-Mac type of future.
                      Can you point to the people who are calling him that right now, please?
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                      • King_B_Mack
                        All Star
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 24450

                        #14756
                        Re: The LeBron James Thread

                        Originally posted by RedSceptile
                        Yet it's widely reported that executives around the league say the Spurs have to absolutely get Ingram from the Lakers because of his potential upside. Literally every report has been about how the Spurs want Ingram and other assets at a minimum? Again you're out here acting like dudes don't develop or something. Would you have said trade Giannis' after his second season when he put up 12.7/6.7/2.6 splits? What about even the dude we are talking about here Kawhi Leonard who put up a ground breaking 11.9/6/1.6. Let's break things down even more did you know the two I just mentioned didn't break 20 points per game until their 4th and 5th year in the league respectively (because for fans for some reason if you aren't putting up gaudy numbers day one I guess you aren't good or something). It's almost like developing is a thing. I'm not trying to attack you or anything, but I don't understand this mindset at all by fans. Again I go back to the Klay Thompson for Kevin Love trade. On paper Kevin Love would have easily been the better choice in that summer of 2014 because on paper 26/13/4 is a hell of a lot better than 18/3/2. Yet the organization avoided trading for a "sure thing" (mainly thanks to Jerry West) because of his belief on what Klay could continue to develop into and 4 Finals and 3 championships later here we are. I just don't understand this way of thinking like it's somehow wrong to believe that the talent you scouted could potentially be greater than what you trade for.
                        I wish Golden State would have gave up on Steph and traded him away back when his ankles were made of toilet paper. GarPax probably wouldn't have made the deal because they would have been happy with Marquis Teague, but still a brotha can dream lol

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                        • Vni
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 14833

                          #14757
                          Re: The LeBron James Thread

                          Originally posted by d11king
                          I still have my eyes on Kuz.. part of me believes he is what he will be.

                          I think there is no way Kuz doesn't get better. His fundamentals and footwork are excellent and he's quick for his size. With more experience under his belt and more strenght he's going to be pretty deadly. He's also fearless and a competitor. He's got all the ingredients to become a really good scorer. When I watch him play, his footwork, his hook shots, his spin moves, all I see is dedication and hard work much like I would see when I watched Kobe play.
                          Last edited by Vni; 07-13-2018, 04:30 PM.

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                          • BleacherBum2310
                            All Star
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 7107

                            #14758
                            Re: The LeBron James Thread

                            Originally posted by ojandpizza
                            Yeah I'm just not nearly as high on Ingram as some of you are. Still think he can be a really good scorer, but as far as him ever being the type to draw the defensive attention of guys like KD, Kobe, T-Mac... I don't think that's in his future. Even if it was I don't even think he would be an aggressive enough player to tap into it.
                            same like he's going to be good but I don't see the star potential that other see unless just because he's really young people think he's going to reach it.
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                            • Vni
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 14833

                              #14759
                              Re: The LeBron James Thread

                              Originally posted by BleacherBum2310
                              same like he's going to be good but I don't see the star potential that other see unless just because he's really young people think he's going to reach it.
                              I think what's stopping me from thinking star when I watch Ingram play is like natural fluidity in his movements. He's not that fluid or particularly quick on his feets. But he can do a lot of things pretty well, I think he's more of a piece of the puzzle than a real star. I hope he proves me wrong though.


                              I'am just glad all theses guys will get to experience greatness from up close with LBJ. That could change their career, one way or another.

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                              • d11king
                                MVP
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 2716

                                #14760
                                Re: The LeBron James Thread

                                Originally posted by Vni
                                I think what's stopping me from thinking star when I watch Ingram play is like natural fluidity in his movements. He's not that fluid or particularly quick on his feets. But he can do a lot of things pretty well, I think he's more of a piece of the puzzle than a real star. I hope he proves me wrong though.


                                I'am just glad all theses guys will get to experience greatness from up close with LBJ. That could change their career, one way or another.
                                I think people have to let go of this, “he’s gonna be an all star” stuff and just let the guys play. Magic Johnson once thought Michael Carter Williams was the next Jason Kidd... Michael Jordan drafted Kwamw Brown. The Blazers took Greg Oden. One draft class can feature like 50 bums. Stephen A Smith picked the Cavs to beat the Warriors. I’m just saying, nobody knows.

                                My dad says on paper it looks good, but that’s why you play the game cause you never know..

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