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  • ojandpizza
    Hall Of Fame
    • Apr 2011
    • 29807

    #196
    Originally posted by slimm44
    Why are y'all arguing about D12 when he's not even on the team? It's going on 50 posts about a guy that's not on the roster. Nothing like taking a hypothetical conversation to the next level.
    I have no idea, originally all I said was that if the guy was on the team he could help them and be effective even against Ewing and it escalated into this huge uproar which was never what I intended at all.

    Sorry for that lol..

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    • ojandpizza
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2011
      • 29807

      #197
      Originally posted by kdurant35rules
      This es (is) no contest. 92 team by at least 15 pts.

      Now ifffff they had wade howard and bosh maybe less than that but you cant match 92's size

      Tyson
      VS
      Ewing
      Robinson
      Malone

      That's a no-no.
      I agree, 10-20 win for the 92 squad. Closer to the 20 with out those guys closer to 10 with them.

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      • wwharton
        *ll St*r
        • Aug 2002
        • 26949

        #198
        Re: 92' Dream team vs 2012 USA team

        Originally posted by ojandpizza
        I didn't use Sabonis to justify that Robinson couldn't guard Howard, I was just saying he was still young, inexperienced and not at the level of career yet as what other people were trying yo say he was at. I never thought he was a great 1 on 1 defender anyways, just a superb shot blocker. Everybody remembers Hakeem making him look like a toddler searching for his lollipop lol.. (not comparing Hakeem to Dwight either)

        And I never said Dwight was the player Shaq was or that he was as good as Shaq, I said his game (maybe I shoulda said play style) mimicked a young Shaq. Shaq never had Hakeem post moves in college as somebody said earlier, he was a drop step turn dunk player in his Orlando days just as Dwight is, Shaq was just better at it. I also never said Dwight would dominate Ewing, I said if he was taking that amount of shots playing in that era of basketball he would post better numbers.. I still think that now, and I still think he's a difficult guard for Ewing, you obviously disagree, that's fine, people can do that lol but to act like Dwight is as bad as you guys are making him just isn't fair..

        And obviously Ewing&Rob is better than Dwight/Tyson but the way some people were making comments about made it sound as if Ewing and Robinson would go for 50 and Tyson&DH were gonna drop about 10.. I still believe Howard has a double/double matched up against the 92 team, which would be just as good as Ewing and Robinson did against the teams they played in 92, and wouldn't be an easy matchup for Ewing.
        I said Shaq had moves in college, and he did. He rarely had to use them bc he was so dominant just getting position. But it was insane how agile and fluid Shaq was at that size. He also had a much better understanding of different ways to score, and with confidence. Here's a video of his rookie year highlights. Obviously, there are a lot of just power plays. But there are also some where you see him face up and attack off the dribble, making a spin move off the dribble after leading the fast break, much crisper post moves than Dwight, etc.

        <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/3DSN1KnAW-Y" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

        And here's a video of LSU highlights. Again, a ton of dunks, of course. But you can still tell his basketball IQ was 10 times Howard's on offense. It's an insulting comparison.

        <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/MTQD3C8Muco" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

        It's not a big deal, you're overreacting to people disagreeing with you. It's just no question that we're right about this one. Nobody said he was a bum, but offensively he's mostly effective because he's bigger and more athletic than whoever has to guard him. That would not be the case in a game like this, bc he'd be matched up with guys just as big, on par athletically in Robinson and much higher bball IQ in Ewing. No one's talking about anything but Howard being on offense... he would not give them the post presence they're lacking, outside of offensive boards.

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        • Jumpman232
          MVP
          • Apr 2010
          • 1146

          #199
          Re: 92' Dream team vs 2012 USA team

          So I was having this argument with somebody earlier, they said that the 2012 team would win, I asked "who would stop the 4 dominant big men (including Barkley), and they said Kevin Love, Anthony Davis, Carmelo, and Tyson Chandler... I stopped and ended the conversation on that note.
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          • iLLWiLL9105
            Rookie
            • Sep 2011
            • 187

            #200
            Re: 92' Dream team vs 2012 USA team

            Depending on the rules I think this could be kind of close. If they're playing with todays NBA rules I think it could slow the 92 team. Why? Zone defense. They only had 2 true shooters. Everyone else was below average. And the fact that none of them had consistently played against zone d. Also I don't think they would cause as many turnovers. With 90s rules its no contest though.

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            • wwharton
              *ll St*r
              • Aug 2002
              • 26949

              #201
              Re: 92' Dream team vs 2012 USA team

              Originally posted by iLLWiLL9105
              Depending on the rules I think this could be kind of close. If they're playing with todays NBA rules I think it could slow the 92 team. Why? Zone defense. They only had 2 true shooters. Everyone else was below average. And the fact that none of them had consistently played against zone d. Also I don't think they would cause as many turnovers. With 90s rules its no contest though.
              They don't play a true zone in the NBA. It'd probably be the best bet but the bigs would still be able to post and score, and maybe easier since it'd be harder to assign a player to deal with one of them or drop down to double. The biggest issue with the zone would be limiting offensive rebounds which would probably already be a challenge.

              If this game happened with today's rules I think there'd be so many fast breaks from both sides it'd be hard to set up a zone very often either.

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              • bkrich83
                Has Been
                • Jul 2002
                • 71582

                #202
                I can't believe this is even up for debate.
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                • VDusen04
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 13028

                  #203
                  Re: 92' Dream team vs 2012 USA team

                  Originally posted by bkrich83
                  I can't believe this is even up for debate.
                  I keep coming back to this thread just to see how skewed the poll has become.

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                  • bakan723
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 1543

                    #204
                    Re: 92' Dream team vs 2012 USA team

                    Originally posted by bkrich83
                    I can't believe this is even up for debate.
                    My thoughts exactly. This team would get smashed by the dream team.

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                    • 23
                      yellow
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 66469

                      #205
                      Originally posted by bkrich83
                      I can't believe this is even up for debate.
                      Its not but somebody has to disagree just for the sakes of it on the internet

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                      • TheShizNo1
                        Asst 2 the Comm Manager
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 26341

                        #206
                        Re: 92' Dream team vs 2012 USA team

                        Originally posted by bkrich83
                        I can't believe this is even up for debate.
                        IDK how I missed this thread.
                        Annoyed I actually saw this was a thread.
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                        • cjallure24
                          Hail To The Redskins!
                          • May 2007
                          • 2319

                          #207
                          Re: 92' Dream team vs 2012 USA team

                          All speculation, no one will ever truly know what the outcome would be.

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                          • bkrich83
                            Has Been
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 71582

                            #208
                            Re: 92' Dream team vs 2012 USA team

                            No one on this team has the sheer will to win like Magic, Larry, or Michael. These guys don't have that step on your opponents neck mentality when it's time to put their opponent away. Like the previous team did.

                            The '92 changed the face of basketball and international basketball forever. This team is just another group of All Stars.
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                            • KG
                              Welcome Back
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 17583

                              #209
                              Re: 92' Dream team vs 2012 USA team

                              Originally posted by bkrich83
                              No one on this team has the sheer will to win like Magic, Larry, or Michael. These guys don't have that step on your opponents neck mentality when it's time to put their opponent away. Like the previous team did.

                              The '92 changed the face of basketball and international basketball forever. This team is just another group of All Stars.
                              By '92 Magic & Bird might have still had the mentality but they didn't have anything else. Lifetime achievement awards got them on the team.
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                              • 23
                                yellow
                                • Sep 2002
                                • 66469

                                #210
                                Re: 92' Dream team vs 2012 USA team

                                Originally posted by KG
                                By '92 Magic & Bird might have still had the mentality but they didn't have anything else. Lifetime achievement awards got them on the team.
                                Well Magic was a year removed from the NBA Finals... I dont know what you mean he didnt have anything else

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