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  • Caveman24
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    • Jul 2011
    • 1350

    #211
    Re: 2013-14 Transactions Thread

    I never trust ESPN "sources" wake me up when deal is done.
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    • Majingir
      Moderator
      • Apr 2005
      • 47519

      #212
      Re: 2013-14 Transactions Thread

      Originally posted by vtcha
      Taken from Rotoworld,

      "The Raptors and Knicks are reportedly "trying to construct a deal" that would send Kyle Lowry to New York.
      Toronto is focused on the future and Lowry's expiring contract makes him a likely trade chip, while the Knicks are desperate for help at PG with Raymond Felton (hamstring) out 2-3 weeks. There aren't any details to report and it sounds as though the talks are in early stages, but it would be somewhat surprising if Lowry is still wearing a Raptors uniform at the All-Star break."


      I really don't understand why the Raptors want to get rid of Lowry. His currently got a decent contract, he still young (27) and he can ball. I can definitely see him as one of the veteran leaders and floor general for the Raptors for many years to come. I mean he can be injury prone at times but c'mon, who you gonna replace him with?
      Raptors trading him cause he'll be a UFA,so he'll be the one in control of his future. Meaning 2 options(if Raptors kept him) would be to pay a high amount, or just let him walk(like MANY others have in Raptors history). Not to mention that they traded away his best friend, so would he want to re-sign with a non playoff team who split him and his best friend up just months after they were reunited.....


      Don't really see how trading Lowry would be good though if best thing Raptors get back is Felton. Is Felton really that good?

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      • Yeah...THAT Guy
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        • Dec 2006
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        #213
        Re: 2013-14 Transactions Thread

        Originally posted by Majingir
        Raptors trading him cause he'll be a UFA,so he'll be the one in control of his future. Meaning 2 options(if Raptors kept him) would be to pay a high amount, or just let him walk(like MANY others have in Raptors history). Not to mention that they traded away his best friend, so would he want to re-sign with a non playoff team who split him and his best friend up just months after they were reunited.....


        Don't really see how trading Lowry would be good though if best thing Raptors get back is Felton. Is Felton really that good?
        They'd presumably be getting a 1st round pick and or Hardaway/Shumpert. Felton is the worst piece you'd be getting.
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        • Majingir
          Moderator
          • Apr 2005
          • 47519

          #214
          Re: 2013-14 Transactions Thread

          1st rounder would be 2018 though, quite some time away. Though maybe Raptors might try to then trade that pick(and risk potentially trading away a good pick) and go all in for 2014 draft.

          Felton + Hardaway wouldn't work, it'd have to be Shumpert. Unless adding cash to a deal balances out contracts or something(cause if Felton or Hardaway cost more(or Lowry cost 70,000 less) ,the deal would've worked)

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          • ProfessaPackMan
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            • Mar 2008
            • 63852

            #215
            Re: 2013-14 Transactions Thread

            Isn't Baby Tim one of Dolan's boys? Same with Amar'e as well, right?
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            • redsrule
              All Star
              • Apr 2010
              • 9396

              #216
              Re: 2013-14 Transactions Thread

              Originally posted by ehh
              I've penciled in "throw a 30 minute tantrum" into my calendar for this evening after I learn that we've traded a 1st rounder, Shumpert and Felton for Kyle Lowry.


              Trade anything you want, just no more picks please.

              You guys might finally have a choice on draft night in 2020 or so. It's crazy how that front office has traded away so many picks.
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              • AC
                Win the East
                • Sep 2010
                • 14951

                #217
                Re: 2013-14 Transactions Thread

                Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
                I think Ujiri or whatever his name is has a long term plan and Lowry just isn't in it IMO.
                Like Maj said, he's a UFA and just not in our plans tbh. If this is true, all the best to Kyle. Even if we rip you guys (@Knicks fans in general) off you're gonna love him. He plays all out, he's in shape now, and he's an incredibly useful and talented player. Really enjoyed having him.

                If we get one of Shump or THJ, that's a success imo. Anything more is gravy.
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                • NYJets
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 18637

                  #218
                  Re: 2013-14 Transactions Thread

                  Woj saying Felton, Metta, and the 2018 first rounder for Lowry. Knicks not sure whether they are willing to give up the pick, but obviously in that package the pick is the key to the deal.

                  Given our history, there is no chance we are choosing a pick 5 years from now over an upgrade for this season.
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                  • ex carrabba fan
                    I'll thank him for you
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 32744

                    #219
                    Re: 2013-14 Transactions Thread

                    Oh my God, possibly another first round pick traded away for New York? Lowry is not worth all that.

                    Knicks just need to blow it up or keep what they have. Don't trade anymore picks man.

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                    • Majingir
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 47519

                      #220
                      Re: 2013-14 Transactions Thread

                      lol, first Amir and now MWP...Hansbrough gonna have nightmares.

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                      • turty11
                        All Star
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 8923

                        #221
                        Re: 2013-14 Transactions Thread

                        anyone have the rumored trade in terms of actual players/picks going?

                        --i read somewhere earlier that if gay is traded lowry will be as-well becasue lowry wouldn't resign without rudy in toronto.

                        also if the warriors can trade for lowry steph won't have to play 45 a game and its that much more 3pt shooting lols >>

                        melo bout to be playing in toronto tho...hence why they moved rudy first!
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                        • Majingir
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 47519

                          #222
                          Re: 2013-14 Transactions Thread

                          Rumored deal is:

                          Felton,MWP,2018 1st round pick(which seems like the dealbreaker for Raptors) for Lowry


                          Carmelo won't be traded here. Ujiri got rid of him in Denver cause he didn't want to stay, no way he'll want to go through that again(knowing Toronto isn't a team big name players want to play on and Carmelos deal expires at end of the year...won't work out)

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                          • ehh
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 28960

                            #223
                            Re: 2013-14 Transactions Thread

                            Originally posted by NYJets
                            Woj saying Felton, Metta, and the 2018 first rounder for Lowry. Knicks not sure whether they are willing to give up the pick, but obviously in that package the pick is the key to the deal.

                            Given our history, there is no chance we are choosing a pick 5 years from now over an upgrade for this season.
                            Gonna give up a first-round pick for UFA rental that'll have hardly any impact on the big picture. Maybe we'll win one game in the first round instead of getting swept with Lowry on the roster.

                            Typical Knick move. Mentioned it in our team thread - we're giving up a pick to put a band-aid on a mortal wound. More foolish, short-sighted management.
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                            • turty11
                              All Star
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 8923

                              #224
                              Re: 2013-14 Transactions Thread

                              yeah was a joke ^^ but anyways....if knicks trade another 1st it will litteraly be impossible for them to rebuild until the 20's i hope they do it too because the trade makes toronto worse if you ask me....so both teams get worse(lowry will fight melo for the ball lol!)



                              also, what do you guys think of the "trade tibs to NY" rumor
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                              • Majingir
                                Moderator
                                • Apr 2005
                                • 47519

                                #225
                                Re: 2013-14 Transactions Thread

                                Originally posted by turty11
                                yeah was a joke ^^ but anyways....if knicks trade another 1st it will litteraly be impossible for them to rebuild until the 20's i hope they do it too because the trade makes toronto worse if you ask me....so both teams get worse(lowry will fight melo for the ball lol!)



                                also, what do you guys think of the "trade tibs to NY" rumor
                                The whole point of the deal from Raptors perspective is to make themselves worse while getting rid of salary(and only players they take back have smaller salaries that can be moved easier if future deals need to happen in offseason) lol

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