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  • ojandpizza
    Hall Of Fame
    • Apr 2011
    • 29807

    #1786
    Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

    Originally posted by ufsports
    Why are the Sixers giving up the ROY for Waiters for a pick that's two above their own

    I'm not saying the Sixers would, I'm saying that's what I would demand if I'm Cleveland. They're in no pressure to move this pick.


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    • ojandpizza
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2011
      • 29807

      #1787
      Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

      Originally posted by redsrule
      The Cavs aren't getting 3, 10 and MCW LOL.

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      I'm not saying they will. I'm saying that's what they need to ask for. If they get it, great for them, if not who cares they have the first pick.

      They are in no pressure to move this pick, they can draft whoever they want. You demand a team over pays to take that luxury from you.


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      • ufsports
        Rookie
        • Jul 2013
        • 394

        #1788
        Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

        Originally posted by CBJacketsTribefan
        Because the guy they supposedly want has very little to chance to lasting to their pick, that's why. no way the Cavs give up waiters in the deal. Deng has literally nothing to do with anything and theres no shot blockers worth trading the #1 pick this year for.
        Deng plays the 3, as Wiggins or Parker would, and he struggled with the Cavs. I just don't feel like they would be a help. I think that the Cavs would want to fill a position they have a hole in but I'm probably wrong I thought the Sixers wanted Wiggins or Parker. Really sorry don't want to start a fight on here lol. 2 questions


        1) If The 76ers took on some of their bad contracts, would Milwaukee deal them the #2 pick for the #3 pick?
        2) who would be interested in Gordon (from the pelicans) for a draft pick?

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        • CBJacketsTribefan
          Banned
          • Jun 2014
          • 50

          #1789
          Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

          Originally posted by ojandpizza

          They are in no pressure to move this pick, they can draft whoever they want. You demand a team over pays to take that luxury from you.


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          This is what you people don't understand that think its so outlandish for the Cavs to ask for that much from philly, Cleveland does NOT I repeat, DOES NOT HAVE to move the #1 pick especially to take a guy who's considered the best since Durant and no one down the line in coming drafts as good at this point. Philly HAS to give up the farm if they want to get him, if not, they are SOL.

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          • CBJacketsTribefan
            Banned
            • Jun 2014
            • 50

            #1790
            Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

            Originally posted by ufsports
            Deng plays the 3, as Wiggins or Parker would, and he struggled with the Cavs. I just don't feel like they would be a help. I think that the Cavs would want to fill a position they have a hole in but I'm probably wrong I thought the Sixers wanted Wiggins or Parker. Really sorry don't want to start a fight on here lol. 2 questions


            1) If The 76ers took on some of their bad contracts, would Milwaukee deal them the #2 pick for the #3 pick?
            2) who would be interested in Gordon (from the pelicans) for a draft pick?


            First Deng is a FA and theres I haven't seen anything from the Cavs camp that says they are bringing him back. and just because he struggled doesn't mean anything with Wiggins and Parker. he struggled because he's getting old and almost finished as a capable NBA player. Put it this way, the Bulls dumped him for nothing to the Cavs.

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            • redsrule
              All Star
              • Apr 2010
              • 9396

              #1791
              Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

              Originally posted by CBJacketsTribefan
              OK so Cleveland keeps the #1 and takes Wiggins and philly is SOL, what makes you think Cleveland trades for anything less then the moon?
              Or they can stay pat at three, pick Parker/Embiid at three, and go for someone like Gary Harris/Nik Stauskus at 10 and have a very good core for the future.
              You're acting like Philly needs to get Wiggins, when there is another good SF prospect in Parker at the top or they can just wait and draft a SF like Young/Hood at 10 & just go best player available at 3.

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              • AC
                Win the East
                • Sep 2010
                • 14951

                #1792
                Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                That's a good point in general but ew @ Rood going 10th.
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                • CBJacketsTribefan
                  Banned
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 50

                  #1793
                  Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                  Originally posted by redsrule
                  Or they can stay pat at three, pick Parker/Embiid at three, and go for someone like Gary Harris/Nik Stauskus at 10 and have a very good core for the future.
                  You're acting like Philly needs to get Wiggins, when there is another good SF prospect in Parker at the top or they can just wait and draft a SF like Young/Hood at 10 & just go best player available at 3. ITs going to cost them the farm to move up for Wiggins, otherwise they settle for lesser players and continue to be a mediocre team.

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                  They want Wiggins more, that's the whole reason behind the discussion. Philly does need Wiggins, Parker isn't close to as good and might be a tweener in the league. theres no SF in this draft that comes within a few light years to touching Wiggins talent and potential, been that way for a long time.

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                  • ojandpizza
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 29807

                    #1794
                    Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                    lol


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                    • ex carrabba fan
                      I'll thank him for you
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 32744

                      #1795
                      Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                      Looks like it's just time for the draft to get here lol

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                      • ufsports
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2013
                        • 394

                        #1796
                        Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                        Why is everyone acting like Parker is a sure bust or that he will never develop defensive talent. If he could be as good as Melo is, that would be a great draft pick. He's no sure thing, but it's not like Wiggins or Embiid are surefire superstays lol.

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                        • CBJacketsTribefan
                          Banned
                          • Jun 2014
                          • 50

                          #1797
                          Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                          Originally posted by ufsports
                          Why is everyone acting like Parker is a sure bust or that he will never develop defensive talent. If he could be as good as Melo is, that would be a great draft pick. He's no sure thing, but it's not like Wiggins or Embiid are surefire superstays lol.

                          They are more sure things then Parker by a long shot, at worst if all 3 are healthy, at least Wiggins and Embiid can be great defensive players while Parker is going to struggle big time to guard either the 3 or 4 because he's not athletic enough and he hasn't shown good defensive skills. plus its a big question if Parker is a 3 or 4 because he's a bit too slow for the 3 and not big enough for a 4.

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                          • Sutt0n
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 84

                            #1798
                            Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                            Originally posted by CBJacketsTribefan
                            They are more sure things then Parker by a long shot, at worst if all 3 are healthy, at least Wiggins and Embiid can be great defensive players while Parker is going to struggle big time to guard either the 3 or 4 because he's not athletic enough and he hasn't shown good defensive skills. plus its a big question if Parker is a 3 or 4 because he's a bit too slow for the 3 and not big enough for a 4.

                            I think Parker is a very good fit for philly because he would complement Thad young's game a lot. Offensively Parker would be more of a sf, but defensively he could guard the other teams weakest forward and let young take the harder matchup. It also helps having Noel protecting the rim as well. The 6ers need a pure scorer and Parker is the best of Wiggins and Embiid at putting the ball in the basket.


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                            • CBJacketsTribefan
                              Banned
                              • Jun 2014
                              • 50

                              #1799
                              Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                              Originally posted by Sutt0n
                              I think Parker is a very good fit for philly because he would complement Thad young's game a lot. Offensively Parker would be more of a sf, but defensively he could guard the other teams weakest forward and let young take the harder matchup. It also helps having Noel protecting the rim as well. The 6ers need a pure scorer and Parker is the best of Wiggins and Embiid at putting the ball in the basket.


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                              at this point, maybe. But he still has to get his shot off and his average athletic ability will make that difficult. Wiggins has the much higher upside for scoring. They also wont match Young with and you probably cant match up Parker with most SF so that statement make no sense at all and having Noel doesn't help anything yet, he has to be healthy first and then we'll see how good he is on D at the NBA level.

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                              • OSUFan_88
                                Outback Jesus
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 25642

                                #1800
                                Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                                ....What the hell happened in here?
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                                Urban Meyer is lol.

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