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  • AC
    Win the East
    • Sep 2010
    • 14951

    #181
    Re: 2014 Draft Class

    Originally posted by turty11
    ive honestly never seen anything of him except like 30 seconds of highlights..

    i dont know of any "big time" prospects for 2015 so id have to say yes, unless some must take pf/c comes along
    Jahlil Okafor is going 2015, isn't he?
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    • og236
      MVP
      • Mar 2013
      • 1116

      #182
      Re: 2014 Draft Class

      Originally posted by RedSceptile
      Wiggins hasnt wilted under pressure. Hell none of these touted guys have. Unless there's been some instance in the what, 6-8 college games they've played?
      Parker outplayed Wiggins in that Kansas/Duke game. Parker literally put Duke on his back in the first half of that game. Wiggins can't be the focal point of a team's offense YET. Will he be an all star player at the next level? I believe so, but it won't be instantly. He's getting by with superior athleticism at this point, and it's all going to be a matter of if Wiggins truly wants to be the best player in the NBA or if he's fine just being another athletic scorer & just that. I think Wiggins, Parker, & Randle will all be all-stars. But I think Marcus Smart is the only player RIGHT NOW who is ready to make an impact on both the defensive and offensive side of the ball.


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      • og236
        MVP
        • Mar 2013
        • 1116

        #183
        Re: 2014 Draft Class

        Originally posted by ACMilan99
        Jahlil Okafor is going 2015, isn't he?
        Yea , most likely Lol I doubt he stays for two years


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        • turty11
          All Star
          • Apr 2013
          • 8923

          #184
          Re: 2014 Draft Class

          if these kids at/going to duke want to win NCAA championships i see them staying extra years to do it, parker already said he wants to play with the guys coming in next year
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          • redsrule
            All Star
            • Apr 2010
            • 9396

            #185
            Re: 2014 Draft Class

            Parker is not a good defensive player right now at all. In fact Duke as a whole is terrible defensively. He needs to improve on that side of the ball a lot. He's probably the most skilled offensively of the 3 "big" freshman. I still think Randle is the most ready to play from day 1 in the NBA. He'll be a double double machine in the pro's, especially if he learns to box out more often, considering he is missing out on probably 5 rebounds a game by not doing that.

            Regarding the 2015 class, we have no idea who will be even in that class yet considering a lot of the top guys are still in high school right now. If I'd go with someone going #1 in that draft it would be Emmanuel Mudiay, I think he'll be an all star PG in the NBA.
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            • turty11
              All Star
              • Apr 2013
              • 8923

              #186
              Re: 2014 Draft Class

              im not judging parkers D off what hes doing at duke...the guy is playing SF in the NBA but duke is starting him at C
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              • jeebs9
                Fear is the Unknown
                • Oct 2008
                • 47568

                #187
                Re: 2014 Draft Class

                Originally posted by turty11
                im not judging parkers D off what hes doing at duke...the guy is playing SF in the NBA but duke is starting him at C
                Thank You lol.... and saying Duke has a bad defense lol... Come on what games are you watching
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                • redsrule
                  All Star
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 9396

                  #188
                  Re: 2014 Draft Class

                  Originally posted by jeebs9
                  Thank You lol.... and saying Duke has a bad defense lol... Come on what games are you watching
                  According to Ken Pom ratings, Duke is 175th in the country defensively. Parker and Hood are bad defenders, regardless if Parker is playing out of position. Duke just gave up 90 points (and almost lost) to a BAD Vermont team.
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                  • ehh
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 28962

                    #189
                    Re: 2014 Draft Class

                    For their standards Duke's D is atrocious at this point.
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                    • jeebs9
                      Fear is the Unknown
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 47568

                      #190
                      Re: 2014 Draft Class

                      I know this kind of sounds dumb... But like turty11... I'm not going to sit here and judge a playing way out of position. He had 6 blocks the other day. And he gotten some hustle plays. I hate using stats to figure out if someone is a good defender or not. It's almost impossible in my opinion to get it perfect. I'm going to stick with the "eye test" on this one guys.

                      I've seen Wiggins make some very nice plays on defense. And he is super fast
                      Last edited by jeebs9; 11-25-2013, 11:31 AM.
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                      • BunnyHardaway
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 15195

                        #191
                        Re: 2014 Draft Class

                        Originally posted by jeebs9
                        Thank You lol.... and saying Duke has a bad defense lol... Come on what games are you watching
                        It's not bad, it's terrible.

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                        • jeebs9
                          Fear is the Unknown
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 47568

                          #192
                          Re: 2014 Draft Class

                          What happen to Duke's front recruiting this year. (I'm talking about Big men.) It's rare coach K ever plays this small. They don't even have a center.
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                          • redsrule
                            All Star
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 9396

                            #193
                            Re: 2014 Draft Class

                            Originally posted by JJLinn
                            It's not bad, it's terrible.
                            Thank you.

                            Originally posted by jeebs9
                            What happen to Duke's front recruiting this year. (I'm talking about Big men.) It's rare coach K ever plays this small. They don't even have a center.
                            He was recruiting Okafor big time for next years class, so he didn't go after a 5 that would possibly hurt his chances for him, and they missed out on the 5th year transfer Tarik Black who went to Kansas. He would have given them help from a depth standpoint.

                            Originally posted by jeebs9
                            I know this kind of sounds dumb... But like turty11... I'm not going to sit here and judge a playing way out of position. He had 6 blocks the other day. And he gotten some hustle plays. I hate using stats to figure out if someone is a good defender or not. It's almost impossible in my opinion to get it perfect. I'm going to stick with the "eye test" on this one guys.
                            I've seen Wiggins make some very nice plays on defense. And he is super fast
                            I'm not trying to just use stats to say that, I've seen a lot of Duke this year, and they are awful defensively. They have a ton of offensive weapons though. Parker and Hood (their 2 best players imo) are also their 2 worst defenders.

                            Wiggins is going to be an elite defender. He already is the best perimeter defender in college right now imo. Like I was saying before, if he doesn't reach his "potential", I still think he'll be a guy that is a lockdown defender and a guy that will be great in transition.
                            Last edited by redsrule; 11-25-2013, 12:51 PM.
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                            • jeebs9
                              Fear is the Unknown
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 47568

                              #194
                              Re: 2014 Draft Class

                              But give me more detail of what you mean he doesn't play good defense. But I've seen him make some very nice plays. But to say he is a bad defender. I don't agree. Especially in the college ranks. Playing super undersized in my opinion. I think we have to wait until he starts playing his natural position. Before we label him a bad defender. Because I've seen him make plays on the defensive end.

                              I think Wiggins might have the chance to be even better. He just really raw.
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                              • ehh
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 28962

                                #195
                                Re: 2014 Draft Class

                                Duke as a team is probably shell shocked because they have to change their 15-year-long strategy of getting bull**** charge calls a dozen times a game and considering that "defense". Now that they actually have to play defense instead of falling down, they're struggling.

                                Parker himself hasn't blown me away or done anything too egregious on the defensive end IMO but I only caught bits and pieces of the Vermont game.
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