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  • ProfessaPackMan
    Bamma
    • Mar 2008
    • 63852

    #1246
    Re: 2014 Draft Class

    Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
    Yall are harsh meng lol



    I will say having 4 number 1 picks in the past 10 years or whatever is ridiculous. That shouldn't be allowed hahahaha
    Let's just say there are certain teams in Sports that have their culture/history for a reason. Cavs are one of them.
    #RespectTheCulture

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    • TripleCrown9
      Keep the Faith
      • May 2010
      • 23694

      #1247
      Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

      And now I have no idea who the Celtics will take.
      Boston Red Sox
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      • ex carrabba fan
        I'll thank him for you
        • Oct 2004
        • 32744

        #1248
        Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

        Originally posted by cavsfan4life
        Agreed, but unless we can get an upgrade over Dion, you dont draft a SG, especially when there are needs at SF and C. On Kyrie/Dion, they showed glimpses of being able to play off each other, just need to be more consistent.
        How is Wiggins not an upgrade though...

        Waiters played so much better when Irving was gone lol

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        • MattUM
          MVP
          • Aug 2013
          • 1051

          #1249
          Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

          Originally posted by turty11
          lawl mattum no you dont, mainly because it wasnt 3 years in a row :P

          ive taken multiple calculus and stats classes, and ofc there is google..

          the odds 3 independent events of a 22%, 15%, and 1.5% chance event happening is 6/10000

          same a flipping coins >><<


          but jazzman, kyrie aint stayin
          Doesn't have to be in a row. Don't know why I said that lol.

          It fits a binomial distribution.
          •fixed number of trials (3 years)
          •independent trials (one year doesn't affect the other)
          •2 results (#1 or not)
          Here's where I take the liberty of using an average probability for each year because it has to be a constant probability.

          I only took one semester though...freshman year, could be wrong. I'm a science guy.

          But my reasoning: http://statistics.about.com/od/ProbH...stribution.htm
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          • cavsfan2
            MVP
            • Aug 2010
            • 3902

            #1250
            Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

            Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
            Kyrie and Waiters have horrible chemistry IMO. That's the biggest issue. I would part with Waiters now while his stock is still decent or move him to 6th man where he belongs at this point in his career. I wouldn't call Waiters "good" defensively either. Is he seriously a good defensive player?
            He is MUCH better than Kyrie on defense. Its not saying much, but take it for what its worth.

            Im gonna get ripped for this, but I really dont think Kyrie is that much better than Dion, they might even be equal. Kyrie is just terrible on defense and it doesnt look like he cares either. Thats just a huge red flag.

            People say "Poor Kyrie, Cleveland has terrible culture" they dont even realize he is a huge part of that.,

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            • turty11
              All Star
              • Apr 2013
              • 8923

              #1251
              Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

              my random mock assuming nobody trades

              1. embiid
              2. wiggins
              3. parker
              4. exum
              5. smart
              6. vonleh
              7. randle
              8. gordon
              9. lavine
              10. nik stauskas
              11. james young
              12. doug mcdermott
              13. adreian payne
              14. cleanthony early
              15. tj warren
              16. gary harris
              NBA 2k19 Roster and Draft project for PS4

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              • ProfessaPackMan
                Bamma
                • Mar 2008
                • 63852

                #1252
                Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                Originally posted by turty11
                lawl mattum no you dont, mainly because it wasnt 3 years in a row :P

                ive taken multiple calculus and stats classes, and ofc there is google..

                the odds 3 independent events of a 22%, 15%, and 1.5% chance event happening is 6/10000


                the events are all independent of eachother you cant avg their probability

                same a flipping coins >><<


                but jazzman, kyrie aint stayin
                Kyrie ain't going nowhere.

                He'll sign that first extension as soon as it's offered since he wants that payday ASAP.
                #RespectTheCulture

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                • ex carrabba fan
                  I'll thank him for you
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 32744

                  #1253
                  Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                  Originally posted by cavsfan2
                  He is MUCH better than Kyrie on defense. Its not saying much, but take it for what its worth.

                  Im gonna get ripped for this, but I really dont think Kyrie is that much better than Dion, they might even be equal. Kyrie is just terrible on defense and it doesnt look like he cares either. Thats just a huge red flag.
                  Kyrie definitely has a lot to prove but yeah, Dion don't strike me as being a special player. Kyrie still has that opportunity. If Kyrie played for say the Blazers instead of Lilliard the narrative would be different IMO

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                  • TheVinylHippo
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 1007

                    #1254
                    Re: 2014 Draft Class

                    I have to say, my favorite outcome from this draft is that I'll be able to play for the Lakers from the beginning of my MyCareer in 2K15 without having to intentionally play like a bum in the rookie showcase.

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                    • turty11
                      All Star
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 8923

                      #1255
                      Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                      lets just agree to agree odds wise cleveland has no buisness fairly having 3 of the last 4 #1's ^^

                      but wait... anyone cleveland drafts assuming its parker embiid or wiggins will be the 2nd best player on the team lul
                      NBA 2k19 Roster and Draft project for PS4

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                      • cavsfan2
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 3902

                        #1256
                        Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                        Originally posted by MattUM
                        The probability of Cleveland winning 3 years in a row is .237% with their average probability per year of .1334.

                        You have to use a binomial distribution. If you've taken a stats class in college you'll know all about this lol.
                        OH GOD I DONT WANT TO TAKE COLLEGE MATH

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                        • turty11
                          All Star
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 8923

                          #1257
                          Re: 2014 Draft Class

                          Originally posted by TheVinylHippo
                          I have to say, my favorite outcome from this draft is that I'll be able to play for the Lakers from the beginning of my MyCareer in 2K15 without having to intentionally play like a bum in the rookie showcase.
                          inb4 2k15 doesnt allow top 10 picks in mycareer to prevent us from getting more VC?
                          NBA 2k19 Roster and Draft project for PS4

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                          • Cavsfan4life
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 1039

                            #1258
                            Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                            Originally posted by cavsfan2
                            He is MUCH better than Kyrie on defense. Its not saying much, but take it for what its worth.

                            Im gonna get ripped for this, but I really dont think Kyrie is that much better than Dion, they might even be equal. Kyrie is just terrible on defense and it doesnt look like he cares either. Thats just a huge red flag.

                            People say "Poor Kyrie, Cleveland has terrible culture" they dont even realize he is a huge part of that.,
                            Agreed ith some lol, Kyrie gets a lot of praise but a lot of the issues on the court start with Kyrie, he is almost Steve Nash like on defense and too many times last season he would stall the offense with his ISO. When Kyrie was hurt, our ball movement improved a lot, Delly and Dion did a great job in that. Still, Kyrie is our best player, but he needs to mature.

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                            • cavsfan2
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 3902

                              #1259
                              Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                              Why does everyone say Wiggins is a SG, I always thought he was a SF. Hes 6'8" without a great jump shot. Doesnt seem like a SG to me

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                              • redsrule
                                All Star
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 9396

                                #1260
                                Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                                Saw something on Twitter about how the Cavs should try and trade the #1 pick for Kevin Love. I'd do it if it was an option. Love better than anybody in this draft.
                                Cincinnati Reds University of Kentucky Cincinnati Bengals
                                @GoReds1994

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