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  • illwill10
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    • Mar 2009
    • 19824

    #1591
    Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

    Originally posted by cima
    Cavs likely to release JR on Sunday.


    Do you think Bron would take him back?
    I've seen speculation on it. Everybody just immediately thinks about the Finals blunder. I mean if it is for league minimum, he can still provide spacing and decent perimeter defense. We will be hearing the same about Melo as well.

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    • jfsolo
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      • May 2003
      • 12965

      #1592
      Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

      If we going to target a SG with questionable decision making and focus, I'd rather just keep KCP instead of bringing in JR. Having both is not a quality option.
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      • Smallville102001
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        • Mar 2015
        • 6542

        #1593
        Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

        Originally posted by Majingir
        It's like I said, no matter where Kawhi goes, everyone will be right because everyone has thrown out every scenario outside of him not playing next year for anyone lol
        Twist he retires lol

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        • georgiafan
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          • Jul 2002
          • 11101

          #1594
          Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

          here is a detailed look at what it would take to get Butler to Houston in a sign and trade

          https://earlybirdrights.com/2019/06/...ign-and-trade/
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          • Majingir
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            • Apr 2005
            • 47595

            #1595
            Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

            How much is ESPN getting from LAC to try pushing the Kawhi to LA narrative?

            They posted "hypothetical odds" on where he would land, with Clippers as betting faves by -110. This despite the other betting sites like Oddshark having Raptors at -225 and bet365 having it as -500 Raptors.
            Last edited by Majingir; 06-26-2019, 08:56 AM.

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            • CMH
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              • Oct 2002
              • 26203

              #1596
              Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

              Originally posted by georgiafan
              here is a detailed look at what it would take to get Butler to Houston in a sign and trade

              https://earlybirdrights.com/2019/06/...ign-and-trade/

              This is a nice site. Bookmarked. Going to be reading these articles throughout the week to catch up. Some great content in there.
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              • DieHardYankee26
                BING BONG
                • Feb 2008
                • 10178

                #1597
                Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                Originally posted by Majingir
                How much is ESPN getting from LAC to try pushing the Kawhi to LA narrative?

                They posted "hypothetical odds" on where he would land, with Clippers as betting faves by -110. This despite the other betting sites like Oddshark having Raptors at -225 and bet365 having it as -500 Raptors.
                Whatever they're getting is worth it because Lakers fans and Raptors fans are eating it all the way up.
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                • georgiafan
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 11101

                  #1598
                  Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                  Originally posted by CMH
                  This is a nice site. Bookmarked. Going to be reading these articles throughout the week to catch up. Some great content in there.
                  Yea that guy is the best follow on all of twitter he will have updated cap numbers minutes after a trade is made @jgsiegel
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                  • WarMMA
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                    • Apr 2016
                    • 4612

                    #1599
                    Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                    Originally posted by georgiafan
                    here is a detailed look at what it would take to get Butler to Houston in a sign and trade

                    https://earlybirdrights.com/2019/06/...ign-and-trade/
                    Interesting. Butler to the Rockets would be crazy. Would definitely be a big 3 in Houston, but for some reason I can see a personality clash with those guys.

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                    • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                      • Dec 2006
                      • 17294

                      #1600
                      Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                      Originally posted by georgiafan
                      here is a detailed look at what it would take to get Butler to Houston in a sign and trade

                      https://earlybirdrights.com/2019/06/...ign-and-trade/
                      Maybe I'm crazy, but the last scenario he laid out seems like it could potentially be the best case scenario for Philly IMO.

                      Getting Gordon + picks + $25 million in cap space (enough to pursue a guy like Russell or potentially Brogdon + another good role player) seems like a pretty good trade for Butler unless they just aren't confident in Embiid/Harris/Simmons being able to create shots at the end of games the way Butler can.
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                      • georgiafan
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                        • Jul 2002
                        • 11101

                        #1601
                        Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                        Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
                        Maybe I'm crazy, but the last scenario he laid out seems like it could potentially be the best case scenario for Philly IMO.

                        Getting Gordon + picks + $25 million in cap space (enough to pursue a guy like Russell or potentially Brogdon + another good role player) seems like a pretty good trade for Butler unless they just aren't confident in Embiid/Harris/Simmons being able to create shots at the end of games the way Butler can.
                        Yea Philly has the chance to come out of this really well by signing Harris using his bird rights and then flipping Butler in a sign and trade. It seems like Houston is def desperate the only issue is finding a 3rd that is willing to give up some assets to get Capella with the other C's on the market.
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                        • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                          #1602
                          Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                          Originally posted by georgiafan
                          Yea Philly has the chance to come out of this really well by signing Harris using his bird rights and then flipping Butler in a sign and trade. It seems like Houston is def desperate the only issue is finding a 3rd that is willing to give up some assets to get Capella with the other C's on the market.
                          I think Houston would be pretty much giving Capela away if this move comes to fruition; I'd be surprised if a 3rd team gives up assets for it, and if they do, I don't imagine it would be much at all.
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                          • cima
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                            • Sep 2004
                            • 13478

                            #1603
                            Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                            Originally posted by Majingir
                            How much is ESPN getting from LAC to try pushing the Kawhi to LA narrative?

                            They posted "hypothetical odds" on where he would land, with Clippers as betting faves by -110. This despite the other betting sites like Oddshark having Raptors at -225 and bet365 having it as -500 Raptors.

                            All of it. The Clippers have never been a FA destination and Blake Griffin can speak for how loyal they are to their players. But now cause they got cap space and hired Lee Jenkins from SI, all of a sudden the media is talking them up like they're some world class organization and always have been. It's pretty funny. Not saying the Lakers are much better given how much of a **** show they've been since Dr. Buss died but Toronto is miles ahead of LAC from an organizational standpoint

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                            • DieHardYankee26
                              BING BONG
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 10178

                              #1604
                              Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                              How is it so hard to believe all of that about the Clippers but you believe in the Vegas odds for Kyrie/KD?
                              Originally posted by G Perico
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                              • jeebs9
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                                • Oct 2008
                                • 47568

                                #1605
                                Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                                Originally posted by jfsolo
                                If we going to target a SG with questionable decision making and focus, I'd rather just keep KCP instead of bringing in JR. Having both is not a quality option.

                                I like KCP don't get me wrong. But he is not the shooter that JR Smith is. I think this one decision making and focus thing is getting out of hand. People are literally summing up one play for his whole career. That's sad.

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