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    yellow
    • Sep 2002
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    #436
    Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

    Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
    I think at least one team out of Lakers, Jazz, Pistons, Pacers, Heat, Celtics, and Bucks would be interested in something that could theoretically make sense for both sides re: Chris Paul. I'd still guess Houston ultimately keeps him, but I think there would be more interest in CP3 than most people seem to believe.
    It's not him it's the salary more than anything

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    • Master Live 013
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      • Oct 2013
      • 12389

      #437
      Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

      I enjoy all the Lakers front office drama with Magic, Pelinka, Ms. Buss etc as much as the next guy; but Rob, I'm also a big Dark Knight fan, what are you doing? What's wrong with you? I mean, I want someone to ask him point blank about it to see what he comes up with. Not cool Rob, not cool.
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      • 23
        yellow
        • Sep 2002
        • 66469

        #438
        Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

        Originally posted by Master Live 013
        I enjoy all the Lakers front office drama with Magic, Pelinka, Ms. Buss etc as much as the next guy; but Rob, I'm also a big Dark Knight fan, what are you doing? What's wrong with you? I mean, I want someone to ask him point blank about it to see what he comes up with. Not cool Rob, not cool.


        They need to ask him why he told Chris Webber they had another timeout.

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        • Yeah...THAT Guy
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          • Dec 2006
          • 17294

          #439
          Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

          Originally posted by 23
          It's not him it's the salary more than anything

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          For sure, but I think there will be interest even with his contract


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          • Master Live 013
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            • Oct 2013
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            #440
            Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

            lying since college.
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            • georgiafan
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              • Jul 2002
              • 11101

              #441
              Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

              Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
              For sure, but I think there will be interest even with his contract


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              Chris makes 38 million next year its going to be hard for teams to match that salary. The Rockets are going to have to take back some bad contracts if they trade him. The other big issue is any team needing a PG would be better off trading for Conley who is a little younger and more durable.
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              • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                #442
                2019 Offseason Thread

                Originally posted by georgiafan
                Chris makes 38 million next year its going to be hard for teams to match that salary. The Rockets are going to have to take back some bad contracts if they trade him. The other big issue is any team needing a PG would be better off trading for Conley who is a little younger and more durable.

                I don’t think it’s as difficult as people think. There’s a lot of teams that have cap space or have contracts that would roughly match.

                For example, the Jazz can basically offer the same thing for CP3 that they were offering for Conley but substitute Korver in instead of a first round pick.

                Pistons can basically do the same.

                Lakers and Pacers have enough cap space that they don’t have to match salaries.

                Boston can build something around Hayward.

                Milwaukee could offer something built around Bledsoe and Snell.

                Miami has a plethora of contracts that they can offer.

                It really depends on if Morey thinks these types of packages would actually improve their team.


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                • georgiafan
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 11101

                  #443
                  Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                  If I am the Suns I might look at a offer of Tyler Johnson, Josh Jackson and TJ Warren. They fill their need at PG and get to keep the 6th pick.


                  Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
                  I don’t think it’s as difficult as people think. There’s a lot of teams that have cap space or have contracts that would roughly match.

                  For example, the Jazz can basically offer the same thing for CP3 that they were offering for Conley but substitute Korver in instead of a first round pick.

                  Pistons can basically do the same.

                  Lakers and Pacers have enough cap space that they don’t have to match salaries.

                  Boston can build something around Hayward.

                  Milwaukee could offer something built around Bledsoe and Snell.

                  Miami has a plethora of contracts that they can offer.

                  It really depends on if Morey thinks these types of packages would actually improve their team.


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                  • jeremym480
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                    • Oct 2008
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                    #444
                    Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                    Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
                    I don’t think it’s as difficult as people think. There’s a lot of teams that have cap space or have contracts that would roughly match.

                    For example, the Jazz can basically offer the same thing for CP3 that they were offering for Conley but substitute Korver in instead of a first round pick.

                    Pistons can basically do the same.

                    Lakers and Pacers have enough cap space that they don’t have to match salaries.

                    Boston can build something around Hayward.

                    Milwaukee could offer something built around Bledsoe and Snell.

                    Miami has a plethora of contracts that they can offer.

                    It really depends on if Morey thinks these types of packages would actually improve their team.


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                    I'd rather hope that Hayward returns to old form than rolling the dice with 34 year old Chris Paul at that price. I think Paul would actually be a good fit but he's just too darn expensive. He's owed $124ish million over the next 3 years versus Hayward's $66m over the next 2 years. Paul is a better player right now but at that price Houston would have to add more compensation and I just don't think it's a good match.

                    Plus, Paul's injury history makes it a pretty easy pass as well. I mean, Hayward had a freak injury but has been mostly healthy throughout his career. Paul has had injuries almost every season and at his age it's likely to only get worse.

                    Hayward actually played pretty well more games than not during the last half of the season. His disappearing act against the Bucks was concerning though. Maybe getting rid of some of the bad apples will end up being addition by subtraction if the team can actually start playing together. Either way, I don't think Boston trades him but if they did Conely would be a much better fit. Although, he hasn't been an iron man throughout his career either.
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                    • 23
                      yellow
                      • Sep 2002
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                      #445
                      Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                      The back end of that contract is nasty

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                      • ojandpizza
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                        • Apr 2011
                        • 29807

                        #446
                        Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                        Yeah the problem isn't necessarily matching money, it's taking on that money and losing your ability to make other moves. Basically you would banking on the idea that adding Chris Paul makes you a contender without adding much else.. I don't know that there is really any scenario where that's the case.

                        MAYBE with Boston if Tatum, Brown take a leap forward over the next couple of seasons, but even then your hoping losing Hayward, Kyrie, Rozier, can be fixed by adding 34 or whatever year old Chris Paul.

                        Chris Paul and LeBron James would form a strong duo, but at what cost? Even if they miss on the very top tier guys and maxed Jimmy Butler while keeping Lonzo, Kuzma, Ingram, etc they would likely be a better team than trading off one of those pieces to land Chris Paul and no longer having money for another big name either.

                        Utah could do the same type of trade offered for Conley, that might be the most interesting in terms of fit.. But you really have to hope he's healthy, which often isn't the case with him.

                        Keeping in mind Houston also isn't going to move him unless they feel the offer improves their team as well.

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                        • areobee401
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                          • Apr 2006
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                          #447
                          Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                          Would rather the Celtics pay Gordon Hayward to sit home doing those silly video game streams he does, over trading for Chris Paul.
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                          • Smallville102001
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                            • Mar 2015
                            • 6542

                            #448
                            Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                            Originally posted by ojandpizza
                            Surely the Lakers aren't dumb enough to trade for CP3 lol
                            Yeah I would hope so lol. Paul is still pretty good but he is on the decline and 34 and making a lot of money like people have said. If he was younger or making like half of what he is making than I would take him but with what he is making it would be like him James and no way to like add any one else. Of course Paul should have been on the lakers years ago. I am still mad about that one lakers seem to have had a lot of bad luck after that trade didn't happend and it made zero sense for that trade to be blocked.

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                            • 23
                              yellow
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 66469

                              #449
                              Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                              Looks like Morey really doesn't want D'Antoni so he's gone after this upcoming year.

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                              • georgiafan
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                                • Jul 2002
                                • 11101

                                #450
                                Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

                                A few rumors

                                Suns interested in Julius Randall
                                Kings interested in Vucevic
                                Clippers could be a sleeper for AD (not sure how this makes any sense)
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