2019 Offseason Thread

[georgiafan]

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

Rumors also coming out of New Orleans that the star from a 3rd team they are trying to land is Bradley Beal. I guess Washington having not hired anyone for the front office yet has stalled talks between the 3 teams.

If Washington is going to trade Beal for a deal around the 4th pick and Ingram I would prob just do that deal and not fool with AD.

[ojandpizza]

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

If Washington is going to trade Beal for a deal around the 4th pick and Ingram I would prob just do that deal and not fool with AD.

I wonder if they wouldn't wind up moving Holiday and the 4th if it meant they got back Beal.

[georgiafan]

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

I wonder if they wouldn't wind up moving Holiday and the 4th if it meant they got back Beal.

With the rumors going away it looks like NO is going to try and win now and not go young. I think they are hoping to get rid of Hill's contract in a 3 team trade along with AD. Jrue would make sense in LA I just think they are still holding out hope they get a big name FA and I don't think Washington would want Jrue. I don't see why NO would want to get guys in their prime now and having Jrue and Beal on the same with Zio gets you in the playoffs I guess that's about it for a few years.

[ehh]

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It's only 71 for those 4, it will be 85 if you add MKG, but your point still stands, they are in Cap Hell.

Ah! I thought I was forgetting a name. Getting old!

[georgiafan]

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Per Marc Stein Lakers sticking with not trading Kuz who knows how long it will last. I also assume this means NO is asking for Tatum and Brown from Boston.

[ojandpizza]

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

Per Marc Stein Lakers sticking with not trading Kuz who knows how long it will last. I also assume this means NO is asking for Tatum and Brown from Boston.

I get their reasoning, but man missing out on AD because they won't trade Kuz instead of Ingram would be a failure in the end IMO.. Even being so reluctant to do it now, and changing their mind later, BI will know that even if they keep him they wanted Kuzma instead lol.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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As much as I want Beal to succeed and believe he'll have to leave DC to do it I don't want to see him wallow in even more (or roughly the same?) misery as he is in now.

[JazzMan]

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

Durant expected to miss the entirety of the 2019-2020 season due to his ruptured achilles

https://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/report-warriors-durant-expected-miss-entire-2019-20-season/

Gotta think this means he'll accept his player option and stay with the Warriors while he rehabs and go from there.

[23]

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

Durant expected to miss the entirety of the 2019-2020 season due to his ruptured achilles

https://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/report-warriors-durant-expected-miss-entire-2019-20-season/

Gotta think this means he'll accept his player option and stay with the Warriors while he rehabs and go from there.

Theyll be over the cap either way

[23]

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I don't see Kemba leaving CHA.

Their salary cap is an absolute trainwreck though. They're paying a combined $85m next year to Batum, Biyombo, Zeller, and Marvin Williams.

2nd time he's spoken like this

[cima]

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

Durant expected to miss the entirety of the 2019-2020 season due to his ruptured achilles

https://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/report-warriors-durant-expected-miss-entire-2019-20-season/

Gotta think this means he'll accept his player option and stay with the Warriors while he rehabs and go from there.

No he would still opt out and get a max offer from someone, and possibly still even from GS. He took a discount to re-sign with them, he'll opt out regardless and I'm sure GS will offer him the max. I think given the all the **** GS is getting from everyone, it would be a really bad look for them not to offer him the max.

[cima]

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

Did it ever occur to anyone that the Lakers may trade for AD and then just fill out the rest of the roster with their cap space rather than going for another max player? I feel like all the discussions are about a big 3, but who's to say they won't just fill out the roster with 3/D guys or shooters alongside just LeBron + AD? That's probably a better move anyway, unless they can get Kawhi. If it's anyone else but Kawhi though, probably better to fill out with depth than chase another max player.

[ojandpizza]

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Did it ever occur to anyone that the Lakers may trade for AD and then just fill out the rest of the roster with their cap space rather than going for another max player? I feel like all the discussions are about a big 3, but who's to say they won't just fill out the roster with 3/D guys or shooters alongside just LeBron + AD? That's probably a better move anyway, unless they can get Kawhi. If it's anyone else but Kawhi though, probably better to fill out with depth than chase another max player.

yes........

Say they keep one of BI/Kuz/Lonzo in an AD trade, then they could likely grab some guys like Redick, Thad Young, Seth Curry, D. Jordan, Brook Lopez, Marcus Morris, Jeremy Lamb, Darren Collison, Ariza, Carroll, Gibson, Ross, Green, Temple, Dedmon, JaVale again, Rozier (if his value went way down), Portis, etc.. They could possibly grab a few of those guys to round out the rotation some.

Then you always have guys on player option contracts who instead of one last big pay day, maybe they take a lesser deal with more years. Examples like Horford, Whiteside, Dragic, Milsap with a team option if Denver doesn’t want to give him 30 mil.. maybe instead of taking that last pay day, they opt out for a bit more money guaranteed over the course of 4 years. Completely realistic option there as well. Though much less likely.

They fill the roster with those type of players, sign a couple of their bird rights guys, get some older cats on minimum deals.. Bron’s boys like Shump, Jeff Green, etc will be available too for those type of deals, even guys like Melo, Noah, J Crawford, Pau Gasol.... I think Klutch sports Nerlens Noel is coming, no sources though just my speculation. After bird rights and min contracts they should still be under the tax, in which case they should have those exceptions available to them as well. If they are over the tax they still have the 5 mil exception and the bi annual too I believe. So those could be used for some of the guys mentioned in the first group, that’s how Milwaukee singed Brook Lopez this year for example.

Lots of options still open if they trade for AD early and therefor can’t get a max after the fact.. they just really need to keep one of those main 3 young guys and not lose all of them and the pick. If they do that their starting point is pretty thin, unless they get something in return with AD in a 3 team swing.

Of the 3 keeping Lonzo might be the best fit with no avenue to adding another good point guard.. but if they kept Kuz+Hart on those stupidly cheap deals, moving out Lonzo, Ingram, 4th pick, and whatever else nearly gets them to AD’s contract. Renounce KCP’s 15 mil cap hold and they should have close to 30-35 mil to round out their roster, plus the 10 mil exception, and 3+ bi-annual exception.


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[ojandpizza]

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

And if it's not Kawhi or Klay, I think that's absolutely the direction they should go. Assuming they can pull off the trade.

[ehh]

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

Gotta think this means he'll accept his player option and stay with the Warriors while he rehabs and go from there.

There's no chance he opts in. The Knicks, Lakers (if they still have room), and Nets--at a minimum--will all offer him a max this summer.

He'll get plenty of feedback via his agent through good old "back channels" and know what's out there before he opts out. I can damn near guarantee the Knicks' max offer will remain on the table.