NBA Draft 2021

[Majingir]

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The latest draft buzz courtesy of KOC.

https://www.theringer.com/2021/7/16/22579643/nba-draft-houston-rockets-cade-cunningham-jalen-green-evan-mobley

• Cade is a lock for #1
• HOU is leaning towards Jalen Green at #2 (smart).
• CLE likely takes Mobley at #3 regardless of what happens with Sexton.
• Suggs is a lock for #4.
• Things get interesting at 5. Barnes is a possibility. Kuminga may fall a bit.
• Bouknight at 6 is a possibility.
• Plenty of teams are inquiring about moving up into the Top 5.

I keep seeing people saying Raptors could take someone other than Green,Suggs,Mobley at 4, but I just don't see it.

But I'm still undecided on which of those 3 I should want drafted the most.

[ehh]

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I think TOR has a pretty easy decision as they'll take whoever is left of the Top 4. Kuminga seems to have slid down into the next tier.

[jeebs9]

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How y'all feeling about Thor?

https://www.basketballnews.com/stories/jt-thor-could-be-2021-nba-draft-diamond-in-the-rough-auburn-tigers-prospect

[Majingir]

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Sounds like Green isn't working out for Raptors or Cavs. So I'd guess Rockets are for sure taking him.

So now it's likely down to if Cavs are taking Mobley or Suggs.

I think TOR has a pretty easy decision as they'll take whoever is left of the Top 4. Kuminga seems to have slid down into the next tier.

If they pick 4th, obviously the pick will have been made for them.

But the question as well is if the Raptors would even consider trading down to 5 or 6 if they really see more value in getting Barnes or Kuminga in addition to either another roster player or a 1st.

I mean if Magic offer 5 and 8 for the 4, should Raptors consider that?

[ojandpizza]

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Surely Cavs will take Suggs if they are entertaining the idea of trading Sexton right?

I don’t even see what’s made Mobley get compared with those other 3 guys anyways. He’s not a Giannis, not a AD, what players like him are winning you anything? Is he an absolutely best case reach 100% of his potential Chris Bosh? So maybe you can win with him as a 3rd option then?

Why are teams entertaining this guy as a top 2-3 pick? I don’t get it.


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[jeebs9]

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Surely Cavs will take Suggs if they are entertaining the idea of trading Sexton right?

I don’t even see what’s made Mobley get compared with those other 3 guys anyways. He’s not a Giannis, not a AD, what players like him are winning you anything? Is he an absolutely best case reach 100% of his potential Chris Bosh? So maybe you can win with him as a 3rd option then?

Why are teams entertaining this guy as a top 2-3 pick? I don’t get it.


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Ahhh haven't seen him play... If he gets stronger. He could be any of those players you mentioned (potentially).

[jeebs9]

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Also were looking for a players like this.

Has his game changed at all? [emoji23]

https://twitter.com/Mike_Schmitz/status/1417704841221222401?s=19

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Surely Cavs will take Suggs if they are entertaining the idea of trading Sexton right?

I don’t even see what’s made Mobley get compared with those other 3 guys anyways. He’s not a Giannis, not a AD, what players like him are winning you anything? Is he an absolutely best case reach 100% of his potential Chris Bosh? So maybe you can win with him as a 3rd option then?

Why are teams entertaining this guy as a top 2-3 pick? I don’t get it.


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He's not my favorite NBA Draft follow, but deanondraft kinda summed up the case for Mobley in a pretty simple way. Since BPM's origin (a little over 10 years ago now), Mobley posted the 4th highest BPM for a freshman, behind only Zion, AD, and KAT and he passes the eye test with flying colors too.

He's a versatile and very good defender, very good passer, very good at the rim and in the mid-range, good feel for the game, and a good ball-handler for a big. If he reaches his peak, he could be an All-Defense guy while also being an offensive hub.

I don't like taking big men early in the draft anymore unless they're just an absolute stud of a prospect. I don't think he's quite on the AD/KAT type of level as a prospect, but I don't think it's unreasonable to say he might be the best prospect in this draft if you ignore position.

[Majingir]

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Surely Cavs will take Suggs if they are entertaining the idea of trading Sexton right?

I don’t even see what’s made Mobley get compared with those other 3 guys anyways. He’s not a Giannis, not a AD, what players like him are winning you anything? Is he an absolutely best case reach 100% of his potential Chris Bosh? So maybe you can win with him as a 3rd option then?

Why are teams entertaining this guy as a top 2-3 pick? I don’t get it.


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Hopefully he ends up more like a Bosh or Horford and less like a Thabeet or Okafor.

Big men in the top 5 are probably the riskiest guys you can draft. High risk high reward.

Between the Cavs and Raptors, I think Raptors need Mobley more than the Cavs do, and Cavs need Suggs more than the Raptors do, but whether or not Cavs go with Suggs is a different story.

[ehh]

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Surely Cavs will take Suggs if they are entertaining the idea of trading Sexton right?

I don’t even see what’s made Mobley get compared with those other 3 guys anyways. He’s not a Giannis, not a AD, what players like him are winning you anything? Is he an absolutely best case reach 100% of his potential Chris Bosh? So maybe you can win with him as a 3rd option then?

Why are teams entertaining this guy as a top 2-3 pick? I don’t get it.

The rumor is that they are drafting regardless of the Sexton situation.

Mobley is a better prospect than JJJ, who went 4th, but yeah, I have him 4th in my (likely) final board after Cade and the two Jalens. Unless they're really down on Suggs--and I don't know why they would be--it's pretty easily to pass on Mobley at 3.

[DieHardYankee26]

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New mock from Sam Vecenie at the Athletic, Bouknight 7 to Golden State, Sengun 8 to Magic, Duarte 14 to GS, Trey Murphy 17 to the Grizzlies, Jared Butler 18 to OKC. They have us taking Usman Garuba at 19, Jaden Springer at 21, and Austin Reaves at 32 with Sharife falling to Phoenix at 29, and Tre Mann to OKC at 36. Also Bigeast will be excited to see it also has us going Luka Garza with 58 lol. I'm focused on Knicks targets but if anyone wants to know any other specifics I can get them.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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New mock from Sam Vecenie at the Athletic, Bouknight 7 to Golden State, Sengun 8 to Magic, Duarte 14 to GS, Trey Murphy 17 to the Grizzlies, Jared Butler 18 to OKC. They have us taking Usman Garuba at 19, Jaden Springer at 21, and Austin Reaves at 32 with Sharife falling to Phoenix at 29, and Tre Mann to OKC at 36. Also Bigeast will be excited to see it also has us going Luka Garza with 58 lol. I'm focused on Knicks targets but if anyone wants to know any other specifics I can get them.

His in-depth draft guide is also out for subscribers which is really good. I particularly liked the breakdown of Kuminga where his strengths section essentially boils down to having an NBA body and his weaknesses section is that he struggles at basically everything right now. #5 on his big board though!

[ojandpizza]

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Reaves at 32 seems like a stretch. I feel like he’s going to be a bounce around the league as a last man on the roster type of guy.


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[Majingir]

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How good are guys like Bassey and Thor supposed to be? And would a deal like the 45th and 46th picks from the Raptors be enough to move up to get one of them? Or if they're allowed picking up the option on Hood or Baynes with the intention of packaging them in this deal to move up?

Bassey I'd imagine is a high priority for the Raptors. Not only plays a position of need for them, but a former MVP of the Giants of Africa basketball camp which was started by the Raptors own Masai Ujiri.

[bigeastbumrush]

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New mock from Sam Vecenie at the Athletic, Bouknight 7 to Golden State, Sengun 8 to Magic, Duarte 14 to GS, Trey Murphy 17 to the Grizzlies, Jared Butler 18 to OKC. They have us taking Usman Garuba at 19, Jaden Springer at 21, and Austin Reaves at 32 with Sharife falling to Phoenix at 29, and Tre Mann to OKC at 36. Also Bigeast will be excited to see it also has us going Luka Garza with 58 lol. I'm focused on Knicks targets but if anyone wants to know any other specifics I can get them.

Garza is a dog.

A slow-footed, non-athletic, incredibly awkward dog.

Garuba at 19 would make me sick.