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  • King_B_Mack
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    • Jan 2009
    • 24450

    #166
    Re: 2020-21 Transaction Thread

    Y'all think the Bulls can get a first back for Thad Young? Obviously not a high one, but I'd gladly take a contender's late first for him.

    And who wants some Finnish basketball in their lives? Give me some good Lauri trade packages cause my man could do with a change of scenery for real. I'd also like to give Wendell a change of address if at all possible.

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    • ProfessaPackMan
      Bamma
      • Mar 2008
      • 63852

      #167
      Re: 2020-21 Transaction Thread

      Originally posted by King_B_Mack
      Y'all think the Bulls can get a first back for Thad Young? Obviously not a high one, but I'd gladly take a contender's late first for him.

      And who wants some Finnish basketball in their lives? Give me some good Lauri trade packages cause my man could do with a change of scenery for real. I'd also like to give Wendell a change of address if at all possible.
      Coby, Patrick and Zach the untouchables?
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      • King_B_Mack
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        • Jan 2009
        • 24450

        #168
        Re: 2020-21 Transaction Thread

        Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
        Coby, Patrick and Zach the untouchables?
        Nobody is untouchable on this team. For the right price everybody can be shown the door. But I'm most hesitant to trade Zach and Pat. Coby is okay and I get he's still trying to learn a position, I just don't know if he's going to be more than like a third or fourth option on a contending team in his future.

        Zach I'm not trading for any unknown garbage. If you wanna trade me Luka or Tatum or somebody like this or there's potentially generational talent in a stacked draft, the lottery order is set and a top 5 drafting team wants to trade that pick and a future first for him, then I'm open for business on Zach and we can talk packages. But some contender like the Lakers or Clippers or borderline team like NO or somebody that's like a Zach away from truly contending (the most likely people that would trade for him) I'm not trading him for some future picks that MIGHT end up being back of the lottery or late first round picks for a 25 year old guy that gets better every year, busts his *** and can consistently go get you any kind of bucket you need. I'm looking to put another star next to him.

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        • Vni
          Hall Of Fame
          • Sep 2011
          • 14833

          #169
          Re: 2020-21 Transaction Thread

          WOJ BOMB : the Los Angeles Lakers signed Damian Jones to a 10 day contract.

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          • georgiafan
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jul 2002
            • 11076

            #170
            Re: 2020-21 Transaction Thread

            Damian Jones is awful at basketball and shouldn't be in the NBA. If it comes up just play the two way guy with the funny name.

            Originally posted by Vni
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            • Vni
              Hall Of Fame
              • Sep 2011
              • 14833

              #171
              Re: 2020-21 Transaction Thread

              Giannis brother you mean?
              Originally posted by georgiafan
              Damian Jones is awful at basketball and shouldn't be in the NBA. If it comes up just play the two way guy with the funny name.

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              • ojandpizza
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2011
                • 29807

                #172
                Re: 2020-21 Transaction Thread

                Up until about a month ago I thought the Bulls should have sold high on LaVine while they could and he was putting up those numbers. I still don't think he's quite as good as numbers suggest, part of the equation is good stats bad team, and him having free reign to take whatever shot he wants.. but he's sustained it enough and even gotten more efficient as the season has went on, and now they are competing for a playoff spot, it would be hard to trade him now without a star asking to be moved.

                Like King said dude plays hard and gets better every year, I don't know how many of you have saw his off-season workouts but he never stops trying to get better he wants to be great. Will be tough for the Bulls to find a way to add secondary star to pair with him thought.

                As far as trading him, I probably wouldn't now, I don't think he's worth a Tatum or Luka package like mentioned, but he's too good to really trade for less and his contract is such a good value that you almost have to keep him. Even a trade for someone like Beal for example (I know they don't want to trade him this is just hypothetical) I don't think would really make Chicago a better team. They would need to get equal to better talent back for LaVine but not as just another high volume scorer, they would have to address other weaknesses.

                Off the top of my head the only team that could give them a package worth listening to would maybe be Sacramento. Not saying either side would want to make the deal but Sac having Haliburton ready to start at the 1 and Bulls having White more suited for being a combo guard at the 2, something like LaVine for Barnes/Hield and Fox could maybe work for both sides. They would have to send out Porters contract and if I'm the Bulls I try to get back guys like Holmes and Bagley as well if I wasn't sold on Carter or Lauri. Might take Carter and a pick going back to Sac to do that.

                I like White, Lauri, and Carter though. I wouldn't be making any of them available unless it was for sure landing the Bulls a star. White is struggling more this year but he showed enough flashes at the end of last year to make me believe he's capable of more. Lauri flirts with 50/40/90, he'll never dominate the glass or be get those double digit boards, but I would still hold on to him and try to address those areas rather them send him off. Would suck to lose him to a team who really utilized those strengths like Dallas did with Dirk and watch him flourish. Likely would never happen, but he is scoring 6 less a night but on 4 less shots compared to LaVine per 36. He just needs to get healthy and stay healthy. All it takes sometimes is the perfect situation, even guys like Joker and Bam are in those spots now to an extent, I think Lauri has the potential in him.

                Patrick is mehh to me. I wouldn't want to trade him but I don't know that I feel his ceiling is Lauri or White. If he had to be moved to land the piece that turned Chicago into a perennial playoff team and that convinces LaVine to sign long term when his deal is up then I would do it. He ended up being a solid draft pick but even comparing him to other rookies with similar production, say Saddiq Bey for example, I feel like Bey shows flashes of "this guy could be really good some day" where I get the "this guy will have a long solid career" vibe from Patrick. His shot is great though, so who knows maybe he has that Kawhi year 3 jump in a few seasons.

                As far as Thad Young goes, I think in a lot of years teams would give up a pick to get him. He's exactly what a contending team would want. I think the issue is most of these teams don't have picks to trade, or the ability to get anywhere near that 13 mil salary. Nets would likely have to trade Dinwiddie, Lakers KCP, etc just some examples. Nets also have Jeff Green who is similar enough to Young for them to not want to move Dinwiddie, and they don't have firsts they can trade. Clippers don't either. That leaves a team like Utah who I don't think want to make a move that could alter chemistry right now, Denver has Millsap, Bol, MPJ, Green, Milwaukee can't match money, etc... Philly might be the only team but I don't know how eager they are to trade a pick and multiple players just to upgrade Scott's role.

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                • ojandpizza
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 29807

                  #173
                  Re: 2020-21 Transaction Thread

                  Originally posted by georgiafan
                  Damian Jones is awful at basketball and shouldn't be in the NBA. If it comes up just play the two way guy with the funny name.
                  I liked Jones a lot with Golden State, never understood why more teams weren't after him. If he was really that bad with yall though I guess it makes sense.

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                  • JazzMan
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                    • Feb 2012
                    • 13547

                    #174
                    Re: 2020-21 Transaction Thread

                    Give me Coby White all day any day. I love that kid

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                    • georgiafan
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 11076

                      #175
                      Re: 2020-21 Transaction Thread

                      Isn’t the other 2 way guy a big cukok are something like that

                      Originally posted by Vni
                      Giannis brother you mean?
                      Originally posted by ojandpizza
                      I liked Jones a lot with Golden State, never understood why more teams weren't after him. If he was really that bad with yall though I guess it makes sense.
                      Yea he was a awful with us a completed non factor those days of him and Jabari Parker playing together won’t be missed. I was surprised he landed with another team then Phoenix cut him loose pretty quickly so he must not have improved.
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                      • ojandpizza
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 29807

                        #176
                        Re: 2020-21 Transaction Thread

                        Originally posted by georgiafan
                        Isn’t the other 2 way guy a big cukok are something like that





                        Yea he was a awful with us a completed non factor those days of him and Jabari Parker playing together won’t be missed. I was surprised he landed with another team then Phoenix cut him loose pretty quickly so he must not have improved.
                        Jones was pretty solid in the debut, tiny sample size obviously.

                        Lakers supposedly rumored to want in on the Drummond interest if he's bought out. If they are truly interested might as well speed up the process. McKinnie and a first round pick for Delly and a wink-wink* deal that the Cavs will waive Drummond. Expected value is second rounders like his last trade, just offer the first, Lakers need a backup guard anyways.

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                        • jfsolo
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                          • May 2003
                          • 12965

                          #177
                          Re: 2020-21 Transaction Thread

                          Originally posted by ojandpizza
                          Jones was pretty solid in the debut, tiny sample size obviously.

                          Lakers supposedly rumored to want in on the Drummond interest if he's bought out. If they are truly interested might as well speed up the process. McKinnie and a first round pick for Delly and a wink-wink* deal that the Cavs will waive Drummond. Expected value is second rounders like his last trade, just offer the first, Lakers need a backup guard anyways.
                          I'd be surprised if the Lakers could get those players for that little. Some other team would offer more, IMO partly just to keep the Lakers from shoring up the weaknesses with the squad with so little cost.
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                          • ojandpizza
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 29807

                            #178
                            Re: 2020-21 Transaction Thread

                            Originally posted by jfsolo
                            I'd be surprised if the Lakers could get those players for that little. Some other team would offer more, IMO partly just to keep the Lakers from shoring up the weaknesses with the squad with so little cost.
                            I mean if Drummond was likely to be bought out anyways I'm not sure it matters. Teams aren't expected to give up first rounders for him and the Cavs aren't expected to take back lots of bad salary with wanting to resign Allen.

                            I don't really know what teams have to offer, but if it's just matching salary with expiring or near expiring deals I would assume the Cavs would rather take the first round pick than a second or two. Maybe Boston would be able to give up more pick wise, but BK, LAC, teams like that can't really. Not many of these contending teams have pieces to help the Cavs future and those that do wouldn't trade them with the chance Drummond won't stay with them. Like Washington wouldn't trade Rui for example.

                            Regardless I'd be fine with them trying for the trade without Drummond. First round pick to get Delly and take back McGee would be nice. They would still have the two buyout slots, one if they kept Jones. Salary wise I think McKinnie and Matthews would do it.

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                            • ProfessaPackMan
                              Bamma
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 63852

                              #179
                              Re: 2020-21 Transaction Thread

                              Nets still have 4 picks in this year’s draft and they also have the DPE available as well to use in any deal they want.
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                              • ojandpizza
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 29807

                                #180
                                Re: 2020-21 Transaction Thread

                                Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                                Nets still have 4 picks in this year’s draft and they also have the DPE available as well to use in any deal they want.
                                With a buyout then the Nets could win a bidding war. Even if a player thought the had a better shot with LAL or LAC, MIL, etc .or wanted to live in LA I'm still not sure 5 mil vs the min is enough to sway that.

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